2024-25 ISU Grand Prix Assignments & projected alternates

[ajingmarg]

It looks like they moved Lucas Broussard and Jimmy Ma up based upon their 2024 Cranberry Cup score, but they did not move Roman Sadovsky up - his Cranberry score is 3 points higher than his 23-24 SB of 221.57. And Yaroslav Paniot was not added at all, despite competing at Cranberry.

Same with Sarah & Elyce - their priority on the Alternates List is based upon their 2024 Cranberry Cup score; likewise Ahsun Yun and Sonja Hilmer were not added.

All of the Pairs teams were added per the GP Announcement Document's stated process. This list also confirms that Bombardier/Mimar were not submitted by Skate Canada for GP selection, so they're only eligible for the SCI host spot; and CFSA hasn't notified the ISU that Wang/Zhu are split and should be removed; plus Holichenko/Darenskiy are still on the list despite being entered for a JGP.

The singles disciplines were only supposed to have the 1st place Challenger finishers added, and then to the bottom of the Alternates list. It looks like they've decided to add/move up the Challenger medalists based on their Challenger scores, but are not adding any other Challenger participants.

ETA - weirdly, Elina Goidina was added using her JGP Latvia score - but she's not even age-eligible!

Plus, they added Gutmann & Stepcenko - I guess by virtue of their WS Top 24, they automatically are added to the Alternates List regardless of the fact that they weren't in the SB Top 75 last season.

ETA2 - they haven't removed Holichenko/Darenskiy from the Pairs list despite being entered for the last JGP; they also have not removed Wolfkostin/Tsarevski from the Ice Dance list despite competing this week in a JGP or Dovhal/Kulesza despite competing at JGP Latvia last week (I'm guessing that the feds who knew which dance teams were staying/returning to the JGP didn't submit them and while the others did include them for GP selection).

Yes. It certainly does. For all skaters/teams competing, especially in these early Challengers.

No kidding! I still think Lucas has the strongest case for the Men's TBD, but now that Jimmy's up there sitting in the 3rd spot with Torgy between them; and for the women with Sarah & Elyce now 1-2 on the Women's list... Who the heck knows? Guess we'll have to see how everyone scores at their overseas Challengers (and why the heck didn't the USFS assign Lucas to Lombardia or Nebelhorn?)

Wang and Zhu are still together.

He has a shoulder injury

Where did you get information that they split??????

Wang is open to try out with Russian partners but at the same time she and Zhu are still partners

 

[Karen-W]

Wang and Zhu are still together.

He has a shoulder injury

Where did you get information that they split??????

Wang is open to try out with Russian partners but at the same time she and Zhu are still partners

It was mentioned in the Chinese news thread sometime during the summer. That's good they're still together!

 

[On My Own]

Also there's a dire lack of senior pairs in China with Wang/Zhu out for the season.

^ Is what was mentioned - but either way, if they're out for the season, then they're out for the season.

 

[Karen-W]

Olga Mikutina confirmed for NHK and Sarah Everhardt assigned to Finlandia. SkAm host spot is still TBD.

https://isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2024-25/grand-prix-5/entries-9/33867-women-4/file

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Olga Mikutina confirmed for NHK and Sarah Everhardt assigned to Finlandia. SkAm host spot is still TBD.

https://isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2024-25/grand-prix-5/entries-9/33867-women-4/file

This is super interesting… So now who do you think the skate America host spot… who will go to and why did Finlandia go to Sarah? I know there was some news or posts about Sarah and her standings the other day, but it was my birthday don’t expect me to remember.

 

[Jammers]

Does Elyce Lin-Gracey have any GP assignments if not give Skate America to her who else does the US have that should get that spot?

 

[Evgeniafan]

Does Elyce Lin-Gracey have any GP assignments if not give Skate America to her who else does the US have that should get that spot?

Elyce deserves it.

 

[Karen-W]

This is super interesting… So now who do you think the skate America host spot… who will go to and why did Finlandia go to Sarah? I know there was some news or posts about Sarah and her standings the other day, but it was my birthday don’t expect me to remember.

I'd guess it will probably go to Elyce unless several more openings happen within the mext two weeks and they each wind up with 2 assignments elsewhere - there is only 1 US woman at SCI, GPdF and CoC currently. It's conceivable that they might be able to give that open spot to someone like Starr if that happens.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I'd guess it will probably go to Elyce unless several more openings happen within the mext two weeks and they each wind up with 2 assignments elsewhere - there is only 1 US woman at SCI, GPdF and CoC currently. It's conceivable that they might be able to give that open spot to someone like Starr if that happens.

Can you refresh my drink? Why did Finland not go to Elyce

 

[Karen-W]

Can you refresh my drink? Why did Finland not go to Elyce

I'm cranky because I just woke up about 30 minutes ago and am also hungry but reading just back one page in this thread would tell you the reason. Start here:

2024-25 ISU Grand Prix Assignments & projected alternates

Third in a row didn't stop Isabeau, Ilia or Chock/Bates from taking it when offered. Sorry but you don't turn down SkAm as the National Champion if it's offered. Also, it’s right there in her hometown again, probably all of her relatives would show up again for her and then cause a lot of...

www.fsuniverse.net

 

[toddlj]

Wow. I don't know what I did to piss in your cereal this morning but maybe you should go back to bed.

Can you refresh my drink? Why did Finland not go to Elyce

short answer is that this seasons scores are being included with last seasons for ranking season best scores on the selection list.

 

[Karen-W]

short answer is that this seasons scores are being included with last seasons for ranking season best scores on the selection list.

Not all of this season's scores. For Men & Women it is only the Challenger medalists who got bumped up on the Alternates list based upon a current Challenger result. Pairs, as has been the case the past 2 seasons, it's all Challenger participants - and the highest score is used regardless of season. We aren't sure what will happen with Ice Dance - Lombardia is the first Challenger that has ID this season, so we'll see what the next updated Alternates list looks like.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

short answer is that this seasons scores are being included with last seasons for ranking season best scores on the selection list.

Who pissed in whose cereal? I’m still trying to get acclimated to Pacific coast time. My cereal tasted pretty fine to me this morning…

 

[toddlj]

Not all of this season's scores. For Men & Women it is only the Challenger medalists who got bumped up on the Alternates list based upon a current Challenger result. Pairs, as has been the case the past 2 seasons, it's all Challenger participants - and the highest score is used regardless of season. We aren't sure what will happen with Ice Dance - Lombardia is the first Challenger that has ID this season, so we'll see what the next updated Alternates list looks like.

That's why I said "short answer"

 

[Karen-W]

That's why I said "short answer"

Yeah, I know, and I know you understand the nuances but some people here in other GSD threads have demonstrated, just in the past 48 hours that they read only the LAST post in a thread rather than all the posts in a thread since they last visited it and they lose valuable/critical pieces of the discussion, so I was trying to be helpful and very clear.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

^^^^ I feel like you can just say ANL

It’s very demure, very mindful

 

[Karen-W]

^^^^ I feel like you can just say ANL

It’s very demure, very mindful

Oh, but it's not just you!

 

[Karen-W]

So, Danilova/Tsiba are out of Nebelhorn and Peng/Wang are conspicuously absent from the Shanghai Trophy entries list - and it's been reported in the Chinese news thread that there are rumors Peng/Wang have split.

Just a refresher -

Danilova/Tsiba - SCI & NHK
Peng/Wang - GPdF & CoC*

The CoC spot would be a host spot since Peng/Wang weren't a Seeded/Invited team with 2 guaranteed GPs. However, there are no other senior age-eligible Chinese teams, so that spot would probably also go to a GP Alternate.

We're also still waiting on Skate Canada to fill their SCI host TBD spot but there don't seem to be any senior age-eligible Canadian teams that would score well enough to warrant that spot. Stay tuned...

 

[coralline]

So Peng/Wang officially out.
Who will replace them in GPdF？

 

[Karen-W]

So Peng/Wang officially out.
Who will replace them in GPdF？

Efimova/Mitrofanov are currently 1st on the GP Alternates list.

Interesting that the CFSA put Wang/Zhu in for CoC - hopefully they'll be healthy.

 

[Stephanie]

USFS has made their host picks: Broussard, Lin-Gracey, McBeath/Parkman, and Flores/Desyatov

https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00120597.htm

 

[Jammers]

USFS has made their host picks: Broussard, Lin-Gracey, McBeath/Parkman, and Flores/Desyatov

https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00120597.htm

Good to see the USFS going with the younger skaters and looking to the future.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

USFS has made their host picks: Broussard, Lin-Gracey, McBeath/Parkman, and Flores/Desyatov

https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00120597.htm

That’s exactly what I thinking they were going to do. However, after cranberry results and today’s short program results in Lombardía, I think Sarah should be given skate America with her results She’s got some potential to make the Grand Prix final.

I really think Sarah should’ve been given skate America as well now.

I wonder if Tammy was in the USFSA ear. I’ve been saying since last year, Sarah should be given clearance for a full steam ahead with USFSA.

 

[Karen-W]

That’s exactly what I thinking they were going to do. However, after cranberry results and today’s short program results in Lombardía, I think Sarah should be given skate America with her results She’s got some potential to make the Grand Prix final.

I really think Sarah should’ve been given skate America as well now.

I wonder if Tammy was in the USFSA ear. I’ve been saying since last year, Sarah should be given clearance for a full steam ahead with USFSA.

Sarah is #1 on the GP Alternates list and Elyce is #2 on the GP Alternates list - they are both going to be in a very good position to pick up a 2nd GP assignment, so I think it's only fair and right that Elyce gets SkAm.

These are good selections by the USFS. They're rewarding the skaters/teams who have stepped up and performed when results mattered this summer.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I don’t know…. Sarah has shown nothing but consistency since that season. I don’t even think I’ve seen a fall? 69 points in a SP in the international competition in Sept? I think she’s got potential for Grand Prix final.

I also think they made a mistake by not choosing Sarah was it for 4 cc last year? I know she got glossed over by USFSA when she shouldn’t have.

And somebody has to withdraw from one of the events where there’s not already three American women. Too much of a risk. I would send Sarah.

She won the first challenger of the season at cranberry, and now she’s right here steady foot with the world champion.

Perhaps I should slide this into the unpopular opinions thread. Lol.

 

[Karen-W]

I don’t know…. Sarah has shown nothing but consistency since that season I don’t even think I’ve seen a fall? 69 points in the international competition in August? I think she’s got potential for Grand Prix final.

And somebody has to withdraw from one of the events where there’s not already three American women. Too much of a risk. I would send Sarah.

Sweets, the US only has 1 woman assigned to SCI, 2 women at GPdF and 2 women at CoC - that's better than 50% odds that a 2nd GP spot will open up and both Skate Canada and the FFSG are really good about filling vacant spots that open up even the week before. Sarah being in NoVa and coached by Skorniakov is exceptionally well-positioned to fill an opening at SCI should one occur since Ilia's already going there directly from SkAm.

But I also think you're getting a tad ahead of yourself here in thinking she could make the GPF. I'm not discounting the possibility but she'll be up against Loena, Matsuike, Yoshida, and Isabeau there.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Sweets, the US only has 1 woman assigned to SCI, 2 women at GPdF and 2 women at CoC - that's better than 50% odds that

I know, I would still send her, too much of a risk. And they glossed over her after nationals last year and she was brilliant. #JusticeForSarah.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I'm not discounting the possibility but she'll be up against Loena, Matsuike, Yoshida, Amber and Isabeau there.

Corrected it.

 

[Karen-W]

Corrected it.

Uhm, no, Amber is not assigned to Finlandia. The three US women at Finlandia are Sarah, Isabeau & Lindsay. Amber is assigned to GPdF and CoC.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Uhm, no, Amber is not assigned to Finlandia. The three US women at Finlandia are Sarah, Isabeau & Lindsay. Amber is assigned to GPdF and CoC.

Oh, I thought you were talking about Grand Prix qualifiers