2023-24 US Pairs Discussion - Chan you count Howe many teams we have?

[marshallpond]

Results for NQS Broadmoor Fall Classic https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33437/index.asp

 

[Karen-W]

Results for NQS Broadmoor Fall Classic https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33437/index.asp

Results links usually are available in the Kiss 'n Cry section.

 

[marshallpond]

Results links usually are available in the Kiss 'n Cry section.

Apologies. I don't have access to the Kiss n Cry section so I wouldn't know what's posted there

 

[BrightSkates]

all of the senior teams who have competed so far this year have achieved the TES mins for Nationals.

It's honestly a quite low TES minimum but hey whatever works...

 

[Karen-W]

It's honestly a quite low TES minimum but hey whatever works...

LOL - all it does is ensure there will be at least 12 teams at Nats in Senior Pairs in most all likelihood - Chan/Howe and Kam/O'Shea have byes and won't need to meet the TES mins.

Fitzpatrick/Bearinger, Hanns/Neudecker, Korytek/Chapman, Liu/Nagy, Martins/Bedard, McBeath/Parkman, Mokhova/Mokhov, Ouellette/Newby-Estrella, & Plazas/Fernandez = 9

Digerness/Sadusky, Efimova/Mitrofanov, Scott/Siianytsia = 3

That's 14 teams right there, so the Pairs Final should be pretty exciting since there actually WILL be a need to skate well in order to qualify for Nats.

 

[BrightSkates]

Nica and Mark comeback

 

[Karen-W]

Sounds like Park/Griffin have been added to the ISP in junior pairs!

https://instagram.com/stories/teamtoddandjenni/3197092626519878924?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

 

[Spiralgraph]

Apologies. I don't have access to the Kiss n Cry section so I wouldn't know what's posted there

I don't have access to Kiss and Cry either so I appreciate any links and/or results that are posted elsewhere on the FSU forum.

 

[ice coverage]

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[Karen-W]

Update with just one NQS event (Boston Open in two weeks) left -

Senior teams
Emily Chan/Spencer Akira Howe ISP (bye) [CoC and NHK Trophy]
Ellie Kam/Danny O'Shea ISP (bye) [Finlandia, GPdF and GP Espoo]
Valentina Plazas/Maximiliano Fernandez ISP (bye) 169.37 (Nebelhorn), 161.51 (John Nicks IPC) [SkAm and GPdF]

Katie McBeath/Daniil Parkman* 181.39 (Middle Atlantics), 170.46 (Glacier Falls) (eligible for the ISP in Dec 2023)
Chelsea Liu/Balazs Nagy ISP 165.20 (Autumn Classic Int'l), 175.91 (Glacier Falls), [Finlandia & SkAm]
Isabelle Martins/Ryan Bedard ISP 152.64 (Autumn Classic Int'l), 135.17 (John Nicks IPC), 157.05 (Glacier Falls)
Ellie Korytek/Timmy Chapman* 156.18 (Glacier Falls) (age-ineligible)
Nica Digerness/Mark Sadusky 155.27 (Broadmoor Fall Classic)
Linzy Fitzpatrick/Keyton Bearinger 130.22 (Middle Atlantics), 152.54 (Battle of the Blades)
Maria Mokhova/Ivan Mokhov ISP (CoC conflicts with the US Pairs Final, so they should have a bye to Nats as a result) 127.05 (Nebelhorn), 145.75 (John Nicks IPC) [CoC]
Evelyn Grace Hanns/Danny Neudecker ISP 121.34 (Broadmoor Fall Classic), 137.53 (John Nicks IPC) [SkAm]
Nina Ouellette/Rique Newby-Estrella ISP 131.37 (John Nicks IPC)

Alisa Efimova/Misha Mitrofanov* (eligible for the ISP in April 2024) [Boston Open?]
Haley Scott/Danil Siianytsia [Boston Open?]

Junior teams
Olivia Flores/Luke Wang ISP 154.52 (2nd place at JGP #3 Istanbul), 147.22 (2nd place at JGP #2 Linz), 123.40 (Glacier Falls) [JGPF - qualifies them for a bye]
Naomi Williams/Lachlan Lewer ISP 138.19 (Glacier Falls) [WD from both JGP #5 Budapest & JGP #6 Gdansk]
Adele Zheng/Andy Deng ISP 106.92 (JGP #3 Istanbul), 126.16 (Battle of the Blades)
Audrey Park/Carter Griffin ISP 119.67 (Golden West)
Sydney Cooke/Matthew Kennedy* (age-ineligible) 105.85 (Middle Atlantics)
Melania Delis/Jaden Schwab* (age-ineligible) 104.31 (Golden West), 88.94 (Glacier Falls)
Reagan Moss/Jakub Galbavy* (eligible for the ISP in 2024-25 per Slovak federation release) 103.04 (Middle Atlantics)
Saya Carpenter/Jon Maravilla 99.54 ISP (Broadmoor Fall Classic), 102.36 (John Nicks IPC)
Catherine Rivers/Nathan Rensing* (age-ineligible) 101.39 (Glacier Falls)
Ashley Fletcher/Aaron Felberbaum ISP 97.76 (John Nicks IPC), 97.83 (Battle of the Blades)

Cayla Smith/Jared McPike [Boston Open]

Novice teams
Milada Kovar/Nickolai Apter 102.22(Broadmoor Fall Classic), 93.24 (Golden West)
Taisiya Shapovalova/Sebastian Malczyk 98.00 (Golden West), 93.59 (Glacier Falls)
Jolena Grohne/Reede Lunt 97.20 (Broadmoor Fall Classic)
Baylen Taich/Michael Chappa 96.35 (Broadmoor Fall Classic)
Clara Finkelstein/Mark Williams 91.88 (Golden West), 78.43 (Glacier Falls)
Tallulah Tanner/Sam Herbert 88.95 (Battle of the Blades)
Joyce Lu/Wyatt Lu 88.22 (Golden West)
Anna Krasnopeeva/Mitchell Castelletti 66.03 (Broadmoor Fall Classic)
Tyler VanWagner/Patrick VanWagner 37.14 (Middle Atlantics)

 

[Amy L]

Digerness & Sadusky just won the Broadmoor Fall Classic with a total score of 155.27

NQS - 2023 Broadmoor Fall Classic

Event Results for NQS - 2023 Broadmoor Fall Classic

ijs.usfigureskating.org

(I guess Irman/Jalovick are planning to compete for Switzerland??)

 

[Karen-W]

(I guess Irman/Jalovick are planning to compete for Switzerland??)

Yes, that's been the plan for them all along.

 

[BrightSkates]

121 for H/N? What happened?

 

[Karen-W]

121 for H/N? What happened?

Protocol says it all.

 

[BrightSkates]

Protocol says it all.

I heard from someone going to watch D/S that the medical team was called on the ice after H/N's skate and that she fainted. Can't tell from protocol where or how. They don't know either because they came late.

Hoping a speedy comeback for Grace.

 

[Karen-W]

I heard from someone going to watch D/S that the medical team was called on the ice after H/N's skate and that she fainted. Can't tell from protocol where or how. They don't know either because they came late.

Hoping a speedy comeback for Grace.

Well, just reading over the protocol does tell us a lot.

• fall on their SBS 3T (no idea who, of course)
• throw 3f was flawed enough to get -1.59 GOE (probably at least a hand down)
• 2nd lift had a major error with -2.32 GOE (no fall, but it was only called a L1, so it most certainly came down early)
• she fell on the throw 3lo
• the last lift also received negative GOE and was only called base level
• and there was a fall on their pairs combo spin (no idea who, but it was only one of them since there was only 3.0 deductions for falls altogether)

Altogether, that was one ROUGH program.

 

[BrightSkates]

Well, just reading over the protocol does tell us a lot.

• fall on their SBS 3T (no idea who, of course)
• throw 3f was flawed enough to get -1.59 GOE (probably at least a hand down)
• 2nd lift had a major error with -2.32 GOE (no fall, but it was only called a L1, so it most certainly came down early)
• she fell on the throw 3lo
• the last lift also received negative GOE and was only called base level
• and there was a fall on their pairs combo spin (no idea who, but it was only one of them since there was only 3.0 deductions for falls altogether)

Altogether, that was one ROUGH program.

If only we were in Canada and had live streaming

Mark and Nica- I can only say from third-hand gorgeous lifts, choreo, and skating skills. Not a difficult program in triples/etc. (V on the last spin) but almost everything they did was plus goe both on the ice and on paper.

 

[haribobo]

US PAIRS Top 5 ISU SB International Scores as of 9/23/23

Plazas/Fernandez 169 Nebelhorn
Liu/Nagy 165 Autumn Classic
Flores/Wang 154 JGP Istanbul
Martins/Bedard 152 Autumn Classic
Mokhova/Mokhov 127 Nebelhorn

Still to compete Senior- Kam/O'Shea, Chan/Howe, Hanns/Neudecker, McBeath/Parkman (once he is able), Digerness/Sadusky

 

[ice coverage]

US PAIRS Top 5 International Scores as of 9/23/23

Plazas/Fernandez 169 Nebelhorn
Liu/Nagy 165 Autumn Classic
Flores/Wang 154 JGP Istanbul
Martins/Bedard 152 Autumn Classic
Mokhova/Mokhov 127 Nebelhorn

Still to compete Senior- Kam/O'Shea, Chan/Howe, Hanns/Neudecker, McBeath/Parkman (once he is able), Digerness/Sadusky

At John Nicks international, Mohkova/Mokhov scored 145.75.
And Hanns/Neudecker did compete at Nicks international, scoring 137.53.

Can't tell whether or not you intentionally are ignoring Nicks international??
I know Nicks scores don't count for ISU SB, and I know it was a U.S.-hosted international.
But Nicks is an international competition.

Maybe you mistitled your list?

 

[TanithandBenFan]

US PAIRS Top 5 International Scores as of 9/23/23

Plazas/Fernandez 169 Nebelhorn
Liu/Nagy 165 Autumn Classic
Flores/Wang 154 JGP Istanbul
Martins/Bedard 152 Autumn Classic
Mokhova/Mokhov 127 Nebelhorn

Still to compete Senior- Kam/O'Shea, Chan/Howe, Hanns/Neudecker, McBeath/Parkman (once he is able), Digerness/Sadusky

We’ll also hopefully see Efimova/Mitrofanov at some point.

 

[Karen-W]

We’ll also hopefully see Efimova/Mitrofanov at some point.

internationally not until next season...

 

[haribobo]

At John Nicks international, Mohkova/Mokhov scored 145.75.
And Hanns/Neudecker did compete at Nicks international, scoring 137.53.

Can't tell whether or not you intentionally are ignoring Nicks international??
I know Nicks scores don't count for ISU SB, and I know it was a U.S.-hosted international.
But Nicks is an international competition.

Maybe you mistitled your list?

People make mistakes. I only counted ISU SB's as I mentioned on the other discipline threads. Fixed now.

 

[AliasJohnDoe]

I don't have access to Kiss and Cry either so I appreciate any links and/or results that are posted elsewhere on the FSU forum.

I use this link for a list of competition results:https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/sports/figure-skating/schedule?path=figureskate

 

[Sylvia]

US PAIRS Top 5 ISU SB International Scores as of 9/23/23

Plazas/Fernandez 169 Nebelhorn
Liu/Nagy 165 Autumn Classic
Flores/Wang 154 JGP Istanbul
Martins/Bedard 152 Autumn Classic
Mokhova/Mokhov 127 Nebelhorn

John Nicks Pairs Challenge (Senior B international) total scores of the 5 U.S. teams last month:

3 Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ USA 161.51 1 4
5 Maria MOKHOVA / Ivan MOKHOV USA 145.75 7 5
7 Grace HANNS / Danny NEUDECKER USA 137.53 6 9
9 Isabelle MARTINS / Ryan BEDARD USA 135.17 9 7
10 Nina OUELLETTE / Rique NEWBY-ESTRELLA USA 131.37

Jim Peterson's post about Nebelhorn: https://www.instagram.com/p/CxgcSvmrGBv/

A grand tradition of beautiful Skating continues in Oberstdorf, Germany at the Nebelhorn Trophy. Today’s freeskate was one of the strongest pair events I’ve attended as a coach. A big step forward, a great skate, and a happy day, congratulations, Valentina and Max! ...

Plazas/Fernandez had 2 ISU personal bests at Nebelhorn Trophy 169.37 (total) and 114.44 (7th in FS; 58.77 TES / 55.67 PCS) - elements copied from their protocol:

1 3Tw4 6.00 1.08 3 2 2 1 2 2 1 7.08
2 3T< < 3.36 -0.94 -3 -3 -3 -2 -3 -1 -3 2.42
3 2S+2A+SEQ 4.60 0.00 1 -1 0 0 -2 2 0 4.60
4 3Li4 5.10 0.82 2 1 1 1 2 3 2 5.92
5 3FTh 5.30 -1.06 -3 -3 -2 -2 -1 -2 0 4.24
6 5ALi4 7.00 0.56 1 0 0 1 1 2 1 7.56
7 ChSq1 3.00 0.40 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3.40
8 3LoTh 5.00 -0.40 -3 -1 -2 1 -1 0 0 4.60
9 PCoSp4 4.50 0.72 2 0 1 1 2 2 2 5.22
10 5RLi4 7.00 1.26 3 1 1 2 2 3 1 8.26
11 BoDs4 4.80 0.67 2 1 -2 1 2 1 2 5.47
55.66 (Base Value) 58.77

 

[BrightSkates]

Instagram Profile of Team Efiomova/Mitrafanov with new stories of lift and triple loop throw.

Looks like they are still in Finland training on their own/videochat.

 

[Karen-W]

Instagram Profile of Team Efiomova/Mitrafanov with new stories of lift and triple loop throw.

Looks like they are still in Finland training on their own/videochat.

They've been over in Finland for a few weeks (seems like they went over there after Champs Camp maybe).

 

[Sylvia]

Yesterday Chelsea Liu posted about her new partnership and her "extraordinary partner, Balazs" Nagy: https://www.instagram.com/p/CxjBRyGS5dP/

 

[Samurina]

They've been over in Finland for a few weeks (seems like they went over there after Champs Camp maybe).

maybe country change?? idk efimova likely has finnish citizenship and it may be easier than skating for the US

 

[Karen-W]

maybe country change?? idk efimova likely has finnish citizenship and it may be easier than skating for the US

Doubtful. I think they just went over there so she has some time to visit family, etc.

The German fed specifically released her to skate for the USFS. There is no way the USFS is going to release a former 4CCs Champ like Misha to skate for another country, plus they were very present at Champs Camp. I expect they'll be back in time for the Boston Open in another week and a half.

 

[BrightSkates]

maybe country change?? idk efimova likely has finnish citizenship and it may be easier than skating for the US

It says US Pairs Team on their instagram profile.