2022 Olympic FS Team Event delayed medal ceremony - updates

[MacMadame]

She still is entitled to another test of the B sample which hasn't happened yet.

Because she hasn't requested it.

The circumstances were that this test was taken in December and she had not received the results until the Olympics. She had competed in Euros and passed a drug test, and she was already in Beijing and participated in the Team competition and passed a drug test there as well. She was already competing and had taken and passed drug tests. The test wasn't handled in a timely fashion and this was not the normal situation.

This is not really true. This kind of situation -- where someone fails a test but the results don't come back until they compete somewhere -- has happened before and will happen again. It's quite possible that the results of the test at Nationals wouldn't come back before Euros as they took place before the 1/20 deadline. And in other sports where the athletes compete every week, it happens even more often. Especially these days with Covid making lots of things take longer.

 

[Coco]

I thought the whole point of letting her compete after the positive result from December was reported was because when that December positive result was fully adjudicated, the penalty would have started from the date of the December test and may have been fully served prior to either Olympic event she competed in.

It seems as though RUSADA is refusing to reach a decision.

 

[MacMadame]

I thought the whole point of letting her compete after the positive result from December was reported was because when that December positive result was fully adjudicated, the penalty would have started from the date of the December test and may have been fully served prior to either Olympic event she competed in.

That wasn't what their ruling said. It may be that was what they had in mind but their ruling was that she would be irreparably harmed by not being able to compete and there wasn't time between the report of the drug test and the competition to go through the process to determine what would happen to her.

 

[kwanfan1818]

The CAS mini-committee also claimed that, while specific language regarding minors was explicit in one section, and not written in another, they could apply the explicit language to where it was not written , even though the people that wrote the rules argued that if they meant the language to apply across the board, they would have written it that way.

 

[Trillian]

The CAS decision to let Valieva compete in the individual event is irrelevant here because there are no medals in question there. She had already competed in the team event before the positive drug test came back, so the only way to avoid a mess there would have been not drugging children in the first place.

At this point, since the athletes didn’t get their medal ceremony at the Olympics, I don’t see the point in skipping procedural steps. Nobody has a time machine. Valieva’s two subsequent negative tests will be irrelevant to the conversation because we don’t play “best two out of three” with doping. RUSADA will “investigate” the circumstances of the December test, do whatever they think is appropriate, their action will almost certainly be appealed, and eventually we’ll have a conclusion. There’s a limit to how much any of it can be rushed.

 

[Sylvia]

On a positive note , USFS/Team USA held a celebration ceremony yesterday in San Jose, CA (after the Stars on Ice show) for the U.S. Olympic team figure skaters - here's what Karen Chen posted (photos #3-5): https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd6eqqGvQie/
"last night. these people. & mvp to whoever gave me napkins to wipe all my tears during the Order of Ikkos medal speeches for our beloved coaches. "

 

[Sylvia]

Bumping up an older thread 2+ years later with today's update via Brennan - will August 7, 2024 finally be the day? https://x.com/cbrennansports/status/1798761360031207914

https://twitter.com/x/status/1798761360031207914

 

[ChelleC]

I'll believe it when I'm actually watching it happen.

 

[ChelleC]

Double post.

 

[overedge]

What about the Canadians' bronze medals?

 

[On My Own]

What about the Canadians' bronze medals?

Canadians don't have bronze medals.

 

[Alilou]

Canadians don't have bronze medals.

Not yet

 

[Frau Muller]

Olympic Bronze medal for Roman Sadovsky!!!

 

[On My Own]

Again. They've not got a medal and have not been mentioned in this tweet.

 

[Sylvia]

I'll believe it when I'm actually watching it happen.

Yup, but I'm glad the planning is underway for both the Team USA and Japan skaters.

 

[Alilou]

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[Alilou]

Again. They've not got a medal and have not been mentioned in this tweet.

Oh stop being such a pedantic old curmudgeon

 

[On My Own]

Oh stop being such a pedantic old curmudgeon

Ah, well personally I am more happy about the medals that have been confirmed and the athletes who have rightfully won them, than whether Roman Sadovsky has or has not won a medal.

Hopefully others are too?

 

[Jammers]

ISU or IOC need to pay for the families of the skaters so they can be there to see them finally get their medals in person especially with all of the nonsense they put the US and Japanese skaters through.

 

[Frau Muller]

ISU or IOC need to pay for the families of the skaters so they can be there to see them finally get their medals in person especially with all of the nonsense they put the US and Japanese skaters through.

They can pay Peacock subscriptions.

p.s. ROMAN SADOVSKY FOR OLYMPIC BRONZE!!!

 

[On My Own]

p.s. ROMAN SADOVSKY FOR OLYMPIC BRONZE!!!

Personally, I'm happy with the laissez-faire interpretation of rules and the Olympic spirit from all the bodies involved. I'd hate for them to be pedantic curmudgeons. So Russia for Bronze is fine by me. At least the rest of the Russian team didn't contain somebody whose performances are an embarrassment to the Olympics and Olympic medals.

 

[Frau Muller]

Personally, I'm happy with the laissez-faire interpretation of rules and the Olympic spirit from all the bodies involved. I'd hate for them to be pedantic curmudgeons. So Russia for Bronze is fine by me. At least the rest of the Russian team didn't contain somebody whose performances are an embarrassment to the Olympics and Olympic medals.

Roman is very handsome and is a social media giant. He personifies the importance of the team event medals.

 

[once_upon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there incidents of the OGM records being blank if the person/team who "won" the medal were disqualified at a later date?
Something like
GOLD MEDAL ______
SILVER MEDAL: SECOND PLACE FINISHER
BRONZE NEDAL: THIRD PLACE FINISHER

no one moves up, just blank space. Or maybe ** with name and reason disqualified.

Am I wrong?

 

[On My Own]

Roman is very handsome

That is an excellent reason for a medal, I agree.

I hope Ariana Grande replaces all of Team USA for the team gold. She's better looking than all of them, and probably would have landed more jumps than Sadovsky, had she been sent.

 

[Sylvia]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there incidents of the OGM records being blank if the person/team who "won" the medal were disqualified at a later date?

Olympic Medal Reallocation Principles: https://olympics.com/athlete365/olympic-medal-reallocation/

"On the afternoon of 9 August [2024], 10 [Summer] Olympians will be presented with their reallocated Olympic medals in special ceremonies at the Champions Park in the Trocadéro Gardens, at the foot of the Eiffel Tower." ETA that this May 30 press release originally was posted by @allezfred in the 2024 Parsi Olympics general news thread in the Other Sports subforum: https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ten-o...hampions-park-during-olympic-games-paris-2024

 

[Frau Muller]

That is an excellent reason for a medal, I agree.

I hope Ariana Grande replaces all of Team USA for the team gold. She's better looking than all of them, and probably would have landed more jumps than Sadovsky, had she been sent.

The FS Team Event can go the way of Croquet and Tug of War, if Roman can’t get his bronze medal:

19 Discontinued Olympic Events I Can't Believe Actually Used To Exist

In the tug of war with the Olympics, tug of war lost.

www.buzzfeed.com

 

[On My Own]

The FS Team Event can go the way of Croquet and Tug of War

Hey, I actually agree!

 

[kwanfan1818]

The last time I looked the weakest link on a winning team is still part of a winning team. Of course, all of this would have been moot without Valieva's honorary grandfather's .

 

[jamesy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there incidents of the OGM records being blank if the person/team who "won" the medal were disqualified at a later date?
Something like
GOLD MEDAL ______
SILVER MEDAL: SECOND PLACE FINISHER
BRONZE NEDAL: THIRD PLACE FINISHER

no one moves up, just blank space. Or maybe ** with name and reason disqualified.

Am I wrong?

According to this, of the 159 times a medal of any color has been stripped, the spot has been left vacant only 9 times.

List of stripped Olympic medals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It looks like Marion Jones had the only OGM that was never replaced, and they ended up awarding 2 silvers & 1 bronze for that race.

 

[once_upon]

According to this, of the 159 times a medal of any color has been stripped, the spot has been left vacant only 9 times.

List of stripped Olympic medals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It looks like Marion Jones had the only OGM that was never replaced, and they ended up awarding 2 silvers & 1 bronze for that race.

I thought there was a Canadian runner whose OGM was not awarded? But I guess not