2020 Russian Junior and Senior test skates

Ka3sha

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Finally, we get some skating and even live streams !!

Junior test skates:
Ice Dance - Aug, 10-11
Pairs - Aug, 14-15 (?)
Single skaters - Aug, 18-19

Senior test skates:
September, 12-13 (Megasport arena)

As usual, Russian test skates are taking place in Novogorsk training center near Moscow.
Junior Ice Dancers start tomorrow with the Rhythm Dances:

1st warm-up group:
Elizaveta Shanaeva/David Narizhny
Sofia Aleksova/Ilya Vladimirov
Angelina Lazareva/Maksim Prokofiev

2nd warm-up group:
Olga Mamchenkova/Mark Volkov
Irina Khavronina/Dario Chirizano
Vasilisa Kaganovskaya/ Valery Angelopol
Ekaterina Katashinskaya/ Aleksandr Vaskovich

3rd warm-up group:
Margarita Sviatunova/Dmitri Studenkin
Sofia Tiutiunina/Aleksandr Shustizky
Elizaveta Shichina/Gordei Khubulov
Arina Ushakova/Maksim Nekrasov

Live stream will be on Channel 1 website, starts at 15:00 Moscow time.
Will post the link as soon as it appears
UPD: link to watch

More to come :watch:
 
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There are 11 ice dance couples invited (with Davis/Smolkin not able to skate because she broke her leg). There will be 4 groups of single skaters, so my guess is 12 ladies and 12 men. But there will be only 2 groups of pairs (max 8 pairs)! I wonder why pairs are treated this way. Russian junior pairs is generally much stronger discipline than Russian junior ice dance, so why don’t they give more pairs the chance? Last year they did not invite any of the newly created pairs (Sobinina/Volodin and Balabanova/Sviatchenko), and then those pairs wee much stronger than the other juniors, but were left without JGP. How unfair! I wonder if this year they will invite newly created Kostiukovich/Briukhanov. Although, thanks to the virus, the skaters may not be ready.
 

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YES this is food and drink to me. I know Davis is still recovering from her injury but I am curious about how it would have worked for a team that is abroad. I guess Tarasova/Morozov are the only team I can think of that is in that position? I'm assuming they aren't flying in for the test skates, but will there be some other way they participate. I doubt anyone knows yet so this is largely a rhetorical question.
 

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I thought tv crews weren't allowed in Novogorsk for junior test skates?
Not sure about TV crews, but the federation films it every year because their technical specialist needs to see it and be able to rewind it, to be able to give a proper feedback to the skater/coaches. It may not be a professional recording the way it would have been done by TV crew, but it still would be at least something. A few years back, even when it wasn’t on TV yet, there were times when it was leaked on YouTube, so someone always recorded it.
 

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YES this is food and drink to me. I know Davis is still recovering from her injury but I am curious about how it would have worked for a team that is abroad. I guess Tarasova/Morozov are the only team I can think of that is in that position? I'm assuming they aren't flying in for the test skates, but will there be some other way they participate. I doubt anyone knows yet so this is largely a rhetorical question.
Senior skaters always came from abroad. Last year Medvedeva came back, Sinitsina/Katsalapov also came back when they trained in the USA, so why Tarasova/Moozov should be any different? Test skates are compulsory for the skaters on the national team.
 

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@hanca , I think the concern was pandemic related travel restrictions.

Edit: And to report from Florida, we are a damn mess.
 

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@hanca , I think the concern was ********* related travel restrictions.

Edit: And to report from Florida, we are a damn mess.
I am sure the federation would have to accept if someone genuinely couldn’t get back to Russia. If there are no flights, there is nothing anyone can do. Senior test skates are in a month, so we will see what the situation will be then.
 

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Senior skaters always came from abroad. Last year Medvedeva came back, Sinitsina/Katsalapov also came back when they trained in the USA, so why Tarasova/Moozov should be any different? Test skates are compulsory for the skaters on the national team.

The Pandemic, yeah, THAT, might be it.
We may not even have a season. Why would anyone come back for that?
 

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The *********, yeah, THAT, might be it.
We may not even have a season. Why would anyone come back for that?
Because if they are funded by the federation, there are some responsibilities attached with the funding. One can’t have only the benefits without the obligations that come with it. Look at it from the federation point of view - they are spending public money and have to monitor how to money is being used. They need to see that the skaters are on track, rather than getting the money and spending their time doing nothing.
 

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Thanks so much @Ka3sha! I looked up the Junior National results and have added them below:

1st warm-up group:
Elizaveta Shanaeva/David Narizhny J1
Sofia Aleksova/Ilya Vladimirov J8
Angelina Lazareva/Maksim Prokofiev (bronze at JGP ITA)

2nd warm-up group:
Olga Mamchenkova/Mark Volkov J9
Irina Khavronina/Dario Chirizano (gold at YOG)
Vasilisa Kaganovskaya/Valery Angelopol J11
Ekaterina Katashinskaya/Aleksandr Vaskovich J6

3rd warm-up group:
Margarita Sviatunova/Dmitri Studenkin J10
Sofia Tiutiunina/Aleksandr Shustizky J5
Elizaveta Shichina/Gordei Khubulov J13
Arina Ushakova/Maksim Nekrasov J2

Russian Junior Nationals 2020 Ice Dance final standings: https://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1920/junnat1920/ENG/CAT004RS.HTM
 

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I hope it won’t be geoblocked.

No Mukhametzianova/Mironov and Mukhortova/Yevgeniev? And only six pairs?
 

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Because if they are funded by the federation, there are some responsibilities attached with the funding. One can’t have only the benefits without the obligations that come with it. Look at it from the federation point of view - they are spending public money and have to monitor how to money is being used. They need to see that the skaters are on track, rather than getting the money and spending their time doing nothing.
As they said themselves, they purchased their tickets four times just to go to Florida. Why come back now? They can send video of their performances. If either of them became ill it could be the end of a career. Why come back then? If they can come back for later events they can try. But they seem to be carrying on in Russia as if the BB is a hoax. God help them.
 

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As they said themselves, they purchased their tickets four times just to go to Florida. Why come back now? They can send video of their performances. If either of them became ill it could be the end of a career. Why come back then? If they can come back for later events they can try. But they seem to be carrying on in Russia as if the BB is a hoax. God help them.
It was their decision to purchase their ticket and fly there. They have known about the test skates; it is taking place every year. While the virus situation makes travelling harder, it still does not take away the federation’s responsibility to monitor the skaters on the national team, and the skaters duty to attend the events that are compulsory. The same are may have to stay in Russia for a while, or travel again later on because they have to attend two Russian cup events. As the test skate is in September, it may be better for them to do the test skate and first two Russian cups and then return back rather than fly three times to Russia a back, but it is up to them.
 

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It was their decision to purchase their ticket and fly there. They have known about the test skates; it is taking place every year. While the ***** situation makes travelling harder, it still does not take away the federation’s responsibility to monitor the skaters on the national team, and the skaters duty to attend the events that are compulsory. The same are may have to stay in Russia for a while, or travel again later on because they have to attend two Russian cup events. As the test skate is in September, it may be better for them to do the test skate and first two Russian cups and then return back rather than fly three times to Russia a back, but it is up to them.
And yet they risk all that to go to Florida for choreography and instruction from Zueva. This is so revealing in more ways than we realize.

Nonetheless, nothing is cast in stone rules need not be a shackle and exceptions can be made because after all we're in the midst of a ....pandemic.
 

Ka3sha

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Exciting!! Are there links for live stream already??
 

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It was their decision to purchase their ticket and fly there. They have known about the test skates; it is taking place every year. While the ***** situation makes travelling harder, it still does not take away the federation’s responsibility to monitor the skaters on the national team, and the skaters duty to attend the events that are compulsory. The same are may have to stay in Russia for a while, or travel again later on because they have to attend two Russian cup events. As the test skate is in September, it may be better for them to do the test skate and first two Russian cups and then return back rather than fly three times to Russia a back, but it is up to them.
If only there was a way to transmit training video electronically without needing to travel and risk spreading a virus (as well as majorly disrupting training)...
 

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I dont really watch ice dance anymore apart from the last group at Euros and Worlds (I know blasphemy;-)). But I am so starved for skating that I am ridiculously excited about the possibility of watching junior test skates from a different country :rofl:
 

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I’m a bit disappointed that there are only 6 pairs but glad to see A/K are still together and scheduled to take part. I hope there is nothing serious wrong with M/M and M/E.

Has Ksenia Sinitsina gone Senior? I don’t see her listed. I really enjoyed the skating of Osokina and Shulskaya, looking forward to see what they bring.

i don’t see Vakhnov listed. He and his partner, Lizunoa, withdrew from last years Junior nationals. Is he still skating?
 

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i don’t see Vakhnov listed. He and his partner, Lizunoa, withdrew from last years Junior nationals. Is he still skating?
I do not know if Vakhnov continues his partnership with Lizunova or continues skating and all, but he could not have been listed here since he aged out of juniors. Besides, he is not on any national team and looks like only national team members were invited.
 
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Is Akatieva too young? (injured?)
Strange she is missing as runner-up from last seasons junior nationals.

Kostiukovich/Briukhanov not ready I suppose?

A shame we won't get a new glimpse on M/M.
 

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Has Ksenia Sinitsina gone Senior? I don’t see her listed.
Yes, she’s listed on the Senior Reserve national team: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/from-russia-with-love-37-summer-2020.107296/

ETA rest of the skaters listed for the test skates at the 1tv.ru link:

Junior Ladies (9):
Kamila Valieva J1, Daria Usacheva J3, Sofia Samodelkina J4, Maiia Khromykh J5, Adelia Petrosian J6, Anna Frolova J8, Sofia Muravieva J9, Elizaveta Osokina J10, Valeria Shulskaia S8

Junior Men (11):
Daniil Samsonov J1, Evgenii Semenenko J5, Ilya Yablokov J6, Andrei Kutovoi J7, Artem Kovalev J8, Kirill Sarnovskii J9, Vsevolod Knyazev J10, Matvei Vetlugin J13, Gleb Lutfullin J16, Mark Kondratyuk, Maksim Belyavskiy

Junior Pairs (6):
Ksenia AKHANTEVA / Valerii KOLESOV J2
Iuliia ARTEMEVA / Mikhail NAZARYCHEV J3
Tatiana KUZMINA / Alexei KHVALKO J8
Ekaterina PETUSHKOVA / Evgenii MALIKOV J9
Ekaterina BELOVA / Dmitrii CHIGIREV J10
Alina RASKOVALOVA / Artem BUTAEV J11
 
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Is Akatieva too young? (injured?)
Strange she is missing as runner-up from last seasons junior nationals.
The test skates are for those who can skate juniors (who are age eligible). Akatieva won’t be junior eligible this coming season, so she wouldn’t be invited for test skates.

But no Mukhametzianova and no Mukhortova!:(
 

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