2019-20 GP Selection (19-20 June)

kwanfan1818

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Everything below is based on last year's GP rules, which could change with this year's GP Announcement, and which isn't always published at the same time as the grids.

The GP (total) minimum cut-off has been 3/5 of the world champion's (total) score. I'm not sure if they round or trim.

I rarely remember splits, even if I've come across them, and if someone retired or announced that they are staying junior, I probably haven't retained that info.


Ladies:

Guaranteed two from Worlds 2019 Placement:
Selection Group 1:
1. Alina ZAGITOVA RUS (SB-1, WS-1)​
2. Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA KAZ (SB-5, WS-6)​
3. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS (SB-6, WS-3)​

Selection Group 2:
4. Rika KIHIRA JPN (SB-3, WS-5)​
5. Kaori SAKAMOTO JPN (SB-7, WS-4)​
6. Satoko MIYAHARA JPN (SB-10, WS-2)​
Selection Group 3:
7. Bradie TENNELL USA (SB-4, WS-7)​
8. Sofia SAMODUROVA RUS (SB-12, WS 10)​
9. Mariah BELL USA (SB-14, WS-12)​

Selection Group 4:
10. Eunsoo LIM KOR (SB-15, WS-14)​
11. Gabrielle DALEMAN CAN​
12. Loena HENDRICKX BEL (SB-16, WS 24)​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 GP (if skating senior)
SB-2: Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA RUS (WS-13)​
SB-8: Alexandra TRUSOVA RUS (senior-eligible, WS-18)​
SB-9: Anna SHCHERBAKOVA RUS (senior-eligible)​
SB-11: Alena KOSTORNAIA RUS (senior-eligible)​
SB-13: Mai MIHARA JPN (WS-8)​
SB-17: Mako YAMASHITA JPN (WS-21)​
SB-18: Serafima SAKHANOVICH RUS​
SB-19: Tin CUI USA​
SB-20: Anna TARUSINA RUS​
SB-21: Anastasiia GUBANOVA RUS​
SB-22: Alena KANYSHEVA RUS is not senior-eligible​
SB 23-Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA RUS (WS-9)​
SB-24-Yelim KIM KOR​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 WS (if skating senior):
WS-11: Wakaba HIGUCHI JPN​
WS-15: Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN​
WS-16: Viveca LINDFORS FIN​
WS-17: Alexia PAGANINI SUI​
WS-19: Maria SOTSKOVA RUS​
WS-20: Laurine LECAVELIER FRA​
WS-22: Carolina KOSTNER ITA​
WS-23: Mae Berenice MEITE FRA​
GP (total) minimum should be 143.06 (round) or 143.05 (trim); all Top 75 Ladies made the minimum with many points to spare.

Eligible for a selection:

1. The junior Worlds podium and JGPF winner would be guaranteed one under the SB criteria.

2. Top 75 not already guaranteed two:
SB-25: Viveca LINDFORS FIN (guaranteed one)​
SB-26: Alena LEONOVA RUS​
SB-28: Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN (guaranteed one)​
SB-29: Anastasia TARAKANOVA RUS​
SB-30: Anastasiia GULIAKOVA RUS​
SB-32: Marin HONDA JPN​
SB-33: Yuhana YOKOI JPN (senior-eligible)​
SB-34: Young YOU KOR (senior-eligible)​
SB-35: Viktoria VASILIEVA RUS (senior-eligible)​
SB-36: Alexia PAGANINI SUI (guaranteed one)​
SB-37: Wakaba HIGUCHI JPN (guaranteed one)​
SB-38: Ashley LIN USA​
SB-39: Marina PIREDDA ITA​
SB-41: Laurine LECAVELIER FRA (guaranteed one)​
SB-42: Ekaterina RYABOVA AZE​
SB-43: Maria SOTSKOVA RUS (guaranteed one)​
SB-44: Mae Berenice MEITE FRA (guaranteed one)​
SB-45: Courtney HICKS USA​
SB-46: Yi Christy LEUNG HKG (senior-eligible)​
SB-47: Hanna HARRELL USA (senior-eligible)​
SB-49: Nana ARAKI JPN (senior-eligible)​
SB-50: Shiika YOSHIOKA JPN (senior-eligible)​
SB-51: Rion SUMIYOSHI JPN (senior-eligible)​
SB-52: Starr ANDREWS USA​
SB-53: Tomoe KAWABATA JPN (senior-eligible)​
SB-54: Daria PANENKOVA RUS​
SB-55: Alaine CHARTRAND CAN​
SB-56: Emmi PELTONEN FIN​
SB-57: Veronik MALLET CAN​
SB-58: Nicole SCHOTT GER​
SB-58: Anastasiia ARKHIPOVA UKR (senior-eligible)​
SB-60: Megan WESSENBERG USA​
SB-61: Nicole RAJICOVA SVK​
SB-62: Kailani CRAINE AUS​
SB-63: Eliska BREZINOVA CZE​
SB-64: Amber GLENN USA​
SB-65: Hongyi CHEN CHN​
SB-66: Brooklee HAN AUS​
SB-67: Alina URUSHADZE GEO (senior-eligible)​
SB-68: Alexandra FEIGIN BUL​
SB-70: Jihun TO KOR​
SB-71: Yasmine Kimiko YAMADA SUI​
SB-72: Yujin CHOI KOR​
SB-73: Hanul KIM KOR​
SB-74: Pernille SORENSEN DEN​
SB-75: Dasa GRM SLO​

3. Any skater from the host nation.
 

tony

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So Russia has Zagitova, Medvedeva, and Samodurova guaranteed two each = 6 spots.
Tuktamysheva, Trusova, Shcherbakova, Kostornaia, Sakhanovich, Tarusina, Gubanova, Konstantinova, and Sotskova guaranteed one each = 9 spots IF all new age-eligible skaters go senior (and I can't see any of the top 3 from Nationals not moving up-- maybe Tarusina stays junior? Either way, it's going to be either 14 or 15 spots guaranteed by the ISU rules.

If all of the above do compete as seniors, that would mean one of Tuktamysheva, Trusova, Shcherbakova, and Kostornaia would only get one event. Skaters like Konstantinova and Sotskova have no chance at a second event. If Tarusina stays junior, then they probably all get two and the others all get one.

Poor Leonova, just missing out on that top 24 SB list. But that sure would've complicated things even more.
 
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Poor Leonova, just missing out on that top 24 SB list. But that sure would've complicated things even more.
Damn, so close :drama:
2nd in line with almost no chance, unless some 'miracles' do haben right in front of NHK again.

What are the odds Sotskova will get Sokolova'd (for GP at least)?
In favour of the others, I am not optimistic Tarusina, Sakhanovich and Gubanova will get their spot accordingly. (((@rfisher)))

This will get interesting at least.
 
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Picking this year's Worlds team is going to make last year look like a walk in the park, I don't envy the Russian Fed at all! Well, perhaps it will all sort itself out by then and be surprisingly clear.
 

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Men:

Guaranteed two from Worlds 2019 Placement:
Selection Group 1:
1. Nathan CHEN USA (SB-1, WS-1)​
2. Yuzuru HANYU JPN (SB-2, WS-4​
3. Vincent ZHOU USA (SB-3, WS-6)​

Selection Group 2:
4. Shoma UNO JPN (SB-4, WS-2)​
5. Boyang JIN CHN (SB-6, WS-11)​
6. Mikhail KOLYADA RUS (SB-5, WS-3)​

Selection Group 3:
7. Matteo RIZZO ITA (SB-12, WS-8)​
8. Michal BREZINA CZE (SB-14, WS-10)​
9. Jason BROWN USA (SB-11, WS-5)​

Selection Group 4:
10. Andrei LAZUKIN RUS (SB-18)​
11. Kevin AYMOZ FRA (SB-21)​
12. Alexander SAMARIN RUS (SB-8, WS-7)​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 GP (if skating senior)
SB-9: Keegan MESSING CAN (WS-9)​
SB-10: Junhwan CHA KOR (WS-14)​
SB-13: Keiji TANAKA JPN (WS-19)​
SB-15: Sergei VORONOV RUS (WS-15)​
SB-16: Nam NGUYEN CAN​
SB-17: Dmitri ALIEV RUS (WS-17)​
SB-19: Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO (WS-13)​
SB-20: Maxim KOVTUN RUS​
SB-22: Kazuki TOMONO JPN (WS-20)​
SB-23: Tomoki HIWATASHI USA​
SB-24: Daniel GRASSL ITA (WS-18)​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 WS (if skating senior):
WS-12: Deniss VASILJEVS LAT​
WS-21: Alexei KRASNOZHON USA​
WS-22: Alexei BYCHENKO ISR​
WS-23: Roman SAVOSIN RUS​
WS-24: Camden PULKINEN USA​
GP (total) minimum should be 194.05 (round or trim); the cut-off is Top 73 if this holds.

Eligible for a selection:

1. The junior Worlds podium would be guaranteed one under the SB criteria. The JGPF champion is not senior-eligible.

2. Top 75 not already guaranteed two:
SB-25: Roman SADOVSKY CAN​
SB-27: Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE​
SB-28: Daniel SAMOHIN ISR​
SB-29: Anton SHULEPOV RUS​
SB-30: Romain PONSART FRA​
SB-32: Roman SAVOSIN RUS (guaranteed one)​
SB-33: Nicolas NADEAU CAN​
SB-34: Artur DMITRIEV RUS​
SB-35: Brendan KERRY AUS​
SB-36: Camden PULKINEN USA (guaranteed one)​
SB-37: Deniss VASILJEVS LAT (guaranteed one)​
SB-38: Artur DANIELIAN RUS​
SB-39: Paul FENTZ GER​
SB-40: Alexei BYCHENKO ISR (guaranteed one)​
SB-41: Koshiro SHIMADA JPN​
SB-42: Petr GUMENNIK RUS​
SB-43: Adam SIAO HIM FA FRA​
SB-44: Irakli MAYSURADZE GEO​
SB-45: Andrei MOZALEV RUS​
SB-46: Alexey EROKHOV RUS​
SB-47: Sota YAMAMOTO JPN​
SB-48: Conrad ORZEL CAN​
SB-49: Alexei KRASNOZHON USA (guaranteed one)​
SB-50: Mitsuki SUMOTO JPN​
SB-51: Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM​
SB-52: Joseph PHAN CAN​
SB-52: Timothy DOLENSKY USA​
SB-54: Bennet TOMAN CAN​
SB-55: Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS​
SB-56: Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI​
SB-57: Jimmy MA USA​
SB-58: Kirill IAKOVLEV RUS​
SB-59: Mark GORODNITSKY ISR​
SB-60: Ryuju HINO JPN​
SB-61: Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN​
SB-62: Andrew TORGASHEV USA​
SB-63: Iliya KOVLER CAN​
SB-64: Alexander JOHNSON USA​
SB-65: Konstantin MILIUKOV RUS​
SB-66: Kevin REYNOLDS CAN​
SB-67: Luc MAIERHOFER AUT​
SB-68: Tatsuya TSUBOI JPN​
SB-69: Sean RABBITT USA​
SB-70: Chih-I TSAO TPE​
SB-71: Ryan DUNK USA​
SB-72: Aleksandr SELEVKO EST​
SB-73: Matyas BELOHRADSKY CZE​

3. Any skater from the host nation.
 

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Here’s what I think for ladies:
18 spots clearly maxed out by Russian ladies
Kihira, Sakamoto, Miyahara, Mihara, Higuchi - 2 initial spots; Yamashita, Shiraiwa- 1 spot; 1 additional host pick (most likely)- 13 spots total for Japan
Tursynbaeva, Lim, Hendrickx, and Daleman get two spots - 8 used there.
Tennell, Bell, and Cui all with 2 spots initially, and USFS saves two host picks for SA to get the maximum number of entries- because it’s doubtful anyone else gets in this year - 8 spots total.
Yelim Kim, Lindfors, Paganini all get one initial spot, and Meite and Lecavelier get their guaranteed spot plus I figure they both probably get their host picks immediately - 8 spots there.
Canada will have 2 more host picks, China will have up to 3, and France will potentially have 1 more if they use it- 6 more spots.
I could see Marin Honda getting an initial (non-host) pick, Young You if she moves up, and maybe two of the Europeans (Peltonen, Schott). Or maybe Lindfors, as European medalist, gets two immediately.
China maybe return a spot or two and you never know with France #3.

ETA- initially my math wasn’t so strong at 3AM and for some reason I thought there were 64 spots, not 72 so I’ve edited above ;)
 

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Pairs:

Guaranteed two from Worlds 2019 Placement:
Selection Group 1:
1. Wenjing SUI/ Cong HAN CHN (SB-1, WS-7)​
2. Evgenia TARASOVA/ Vladimir MOROZOV RUS (SB-2, WS-1)​
3. Natalia ZABIIAKO/ Alexander ENBERT RUS (SB-4, WS-3)​

Selection Group 2:
4. Cheng PENG/ Yang JIN CHN (SB-5, WS-6)​
5. Vanessa JAMES/ Morgan CIPRES FRA (SB-3, WS-2)​
6. Aleksandra BOIKOVA/ Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII RUS (SB-7, WS-8)​

Selection Group 3:
7. Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS/ Michael MARINARO CAN (SB-6, WS-5)​
8. Nicole DELLA MONICA/ Matteo GUARISE ITA (SB-8, WS-4)​
9. Ashley CAIN/ Timothy LEDUC USA (SB-9, WS-9)​
10. Miriam ZIEGLER/ Severin KIEFER AUT (SB-17, WS-11)​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 GP (if skating senior)
SB-10: Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALLIAMOV RUS (WS-23)​
SB-11: Tarah KAYNE / Danny O'SHEA USA (WS-12)​
SB-12: Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA (WS-13)​
SB-13: Daria PAVLIUCHENKO / Denis KHODYKIN RUS (WS-10)​
SB-14: Polina KOSTIUKOVICH / Dmitrii IALIN RUS (WS-20)​
SB-15: Apollinariia PANFILOVA / Dmitry RYLOV RUS​
SB-16: Tae Ok RYOM / Ju Sik KIM PRK (WS-22)​
SB-18: Kneniia AKHANTEVA / Valerii KOLESOV RUS​
SB-19: Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER USA (WS-21)​
SB-20: Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN RUS (WS-18)​
SB-21: Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT (WS-16)​
SB-23: Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD​
SB-24: Jessica CALALANG / Brian JOHNSON​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 WS (if skating senior):
WS-15: Ekaterina ALEXANDROVSKAYA / Harley WINDSOR AUS​
WS-24: Audry LU / Misha MITROFANOV​

GP (total) minimum should be 140.90 (round or trim); the cut-off is Top 44 if this holds, or what was typical when the minimums first started. Plus, they've dropped the technical minimums, which would let a few more teams be eligible.

Eligible for a selection:

1. The junior Worlds podium and JGPF champions would be guaranteed one under the SB criteria.

2. Top 44 not already guaranteed two:
SB-25: Feiyao TANG / Yongchao YANG CHN​
SB-26: Ekaterina ALEXANDROVSKAYA / Harley WINDSOR AUS​
SB-28: Anastasia POLUIANOVA / Dmitry SOPOT RUS​
SB-29: Camille RUEST / Andrew WOLFE CAN​
SB-30: Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA​
SB-31: Sarah FENG / TJ NYMAN USA​
SB-33: Laiken LOCKLEY / Keenan PROCHNOW USA​
SB-34: Alina PEPELEVA / Roman PLESHKOV RUS​
SB-35: Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA (guaranteed one)​
SB-36: Lina KUDRIAVTSEVA / Ilia SPIRIDONOV RUS​
SB-37: Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO​
SB-38: Zoe JONES / Christopher BOYADJI GBR​
SB-39: Nica DIGERNESS / Danny NEUDECKER USA​
SB-40: Miu SUZAKI / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN​
SB-41: Daria KVARTALOVA / Alexei SVIATCHENKO RUS​
SB-42: Hailey KOPS / Artem TSOGLIN ISR​
SB-43: Cleo HAMON / Denys STREKALIN FRA​
SB-44: Riku MIURA / Shoya ICHIHASHI JPN​

3. Any team from the host nation.
 

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Men on the other hand- there are going to be plenty of available spots once all of the guaranteed spots are accounted for.

In addition to the top 12 in the world, I could see Hiwatashi, Voronov, Savosin, Grassl, Messing, Nguyen (maybe both using a SC host pick but at least one of them), Cha, Kvitelashvili, Vassiljevs, and Samohin getting two spots off the bat.

Bychenko is retired now and Kovtun is not competing, correct?

Tanaka, Tomono, Krasnozsohn, Pulkinen, Aliev, are all guaranteed a spot. One of the two Japanese men might be an initial host pick on top of their guaranteed spot.

That’s still only 49 or 50 spots out of 72. USA would have 1 host pick open most likely, Canada 1 or 2, China 1 or 2, France 2, Russia 1, and Japan 1? if all countries max out their host picks.
 
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Dance:

Guaranteed two from Worlds 2019 Placement:
Selection Group 1:
1. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA (SB-1, WS-2)​
2. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS (SB-2, WS-5)​
3. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA (SB-3, WS-1)​

Selection Group 2:
4. Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS (SB-4, WS-4)​
5. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN (SB-6, WS-8)​
6. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA (SB-5, WS-11)​

Selection Group 3:
7. Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN (SB-8, WS-6)​
8. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA (SB-7, WS-3)​
9. Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA (SB-9, WS-7)​
10. Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN CAN (SB-10,​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 GP (if skating senior)
SB-11: Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL (WS-9)​
SB-12: Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO RUS (WS-12)​
SB-13: Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR (WS-21)​
SB-15: Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP (WS-17)​
SB-16: Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA (WS-14)​
SB-17: Marie-Jade LAURIALUT / Romain LE GAC FRA (WS-15)​
SB-18: Christina CARRIERA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA (WS-19)​
SB-19: Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP (WS-13)​
SB-20: Anastasia SKOPTCOVA / Kirill ALESHIN RUS​
SB-21: Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN (WS-22)​
SB-22: Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS​
SB-23: Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN (WS-10)​
SB-24: Arina USHAKOVA / Maxim NEKRASOV RUS​

Guaranteed one from Top 24 WS (if skating senior):
WS-18: Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN​
WS-23: Sofia SHEVCHENKO / Igor EREMENKO RUS​
WS-24: Misato KOMATSUBARA / Tim KOLETO JPN​

GP (total) minimum should be 133.88 (round) or 133.87 (trim); all of the Top 75 made it, although it was close: only one other team, SB-76, did as well.

Eligible for a selection:

1. Khudiberdieva/Nazarov, the Jr. Worlds silver medalists, would be eligible, if they go senior; they are SB-26 and aren't guaranteed any spots.

2. Top 75 not already guaranteed two:
SB-25: Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN (guaranteed one)​
SB-26: Elizaveta KHUDAIBERDIEVA / Nikita NAZAROV RUS​
SB-27: Sofia SHEVCHENKO / Igor EREMENKO RUS (guaranteed one)​
SB-28: Betina POPOVA / Sergey MOZGOV RUS​
SB-29: Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN​
SB-30: Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU​
SB-31: Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA​
SB-32: Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV RUS​
SB-33: Avonley NGUYEN / Vadym KOLESNIK USA (guaranteed one)​
SB-34: Shari KOCH / Christian NUECHTERN GER​
SB-35: Maria KAZAKOVA / Georgy REVIYA GEO​
SB-36: Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA​
SB-37: Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND GBR​
SB-38: Anna YANOVSKAYA / Adam LUKACS HUN​
SB-39: Misato KOMATSUBARA / Tim KOLETO JPN (guaranteed one)​
SB-40: Katharina MUELLER / Tim DIECK GER​
SB-41: Hong CHEN / Zhuoming SUN CHN​
SB-42: Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR​
SB-43: Darya POPOVA / Volodymyr BYELIKOV UKR​
SB-44: Jennifer URBAN / Benjamin STEFFAN GER​
SB-46: Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Jeremie FLEMIN POL​
SB-47: Ellie FISHER / Simon-Pierre MALETTE-PAQUETTE CAN​
SB-48: Elizaveta SHANAEVA / Devid NARYZHNYY RUS​
SB-49: Polina IVANENKO / Daniil KARPOV RUS​
SB-50: Annabelle MOROZOV / Andrei BAGIN RUS​
SB-51: Haley SALES / Nikolas WAMSTEEKER CAN​
SB-52: Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN RUS​
SB-53: Eliana GROPMAN / Ian SOMERVILLE USA​
SB-54: Ksenia KONKINA / Alexander VAKHNOV RUS​
SB-55: Anna KUBLIKOVA / Yuri HULITSKI BLR​
SB-56: Julia WAGRET / Pierre SOUQUET FRA​
SB-57: Loicia DEMOUGEOT / Theo LE MERCIER FRA​
SB-58: Maria GOLUBTSOVA / Kirill BELOBROV UKR​
SB-59: Alicia FABBRI / Paul AYER CAN​
SB-60: Eva KUTS / Dmitrii MIKHAILOV RUS​
SB-61: Shira ICHILOV / Vadim DAVIDOVICH ISR​
SB-62: Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUD FRA​
SB-63: Yana BUGA / Georgy POKHILYUK AZE​
SB-65: Carolina MOSCHENI / Andrea FABBRI ITA​
SB-66: Karina MANTA / Joseph JOHNSON USA​
SB-67: Molly LANAGHAN / Dmitre RAZGULAJEVS CAN​
SB-68: Victoria MANNI / Carlo ROETHLISBERGER SUI​
SB-69: Chantelle KERRY / Andrew DODDS AUS​
SB-70: Natalie D'ALESSANDRO / Bruce WADDELL CAN​
SB-71: Francesca RIGHI / Aleksei DUBROVIN ITA​
SB-72: Sophia ELDER / Christopher ELDER USA​
SB-73: Ekaterina ANDREEVA / Ivan DESYATOV RUS​
SB-74: Ashlynne STAIRS / Elliott GRAHAM CAN​
SB-75: Emma GUNTER / Caleb WEIN USA​

3. Any team from the host nation.
 
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Picking this year's Worlds team is going to make last year look like a walk in the park, I don't envy the Russian Fed at all! Well, perhaps it will all sort itself out by then and be surprisingly clear.
Last year at this point no one would have thought Samodurova would skate 2 grand prix's , euros and worlds.
Be prepared for surprises:watch:
 
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I wonder if NHK's host spot goes to Yuhana Yokoi (JN #1 and her club is politically strong on the domestic side). So please please someone invite Marin. Errrr SKAM. :D
I hope Yuhana gets NHK! Frankly she skated better than Marin last season despite her SP woes. Plus she finished way higher at Nationals.
 

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Russia's biggest issue is the same they've faced in the JGP the last several years, and that's strategically spreading out the skaters across the comps so they maximize the number of skaters who make it into the GPF. They don't want their top 6 skaters competing against each other in individual events, but for them to dominate the GPF instead. There's a lot of strategic positioning involved. The problem is they can move skaters around in the JGP series to maximize standings and they don't have that ability in the GP events since they don't have the same level of control over which skaters go where. Japan has the same issue to a lesser extent.
 

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One thing: What comes first in all the scenarios is HOST PICK. Then the selection by Worlds 2018 finish.
 

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The lists above are eligibility in the order listed in the GP Announcement.

There are also other eligibility rules for Pairs and Dance, like split couples (explicit for those who placed 7-12 at the prior two Worlds, implicitly for those placed 1-6 at an unstated number of prior Worlds), and comeback/return skaters, those who didn't skate last season but placed 7-12 at the two prior Worlds before last season and those who place 1-6 in the last ten seasons.

If anyone knows anyone who qualifies under these rules, it would be great if you'd add it here.

In addition, those who win the designated (in the Announcement) early season events are put (officially at least) at the top of the alternates list, but they aren't part of the initial selection. This could be relevant in Pairs again.
 

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The lists above are eligibility in the order listed in the GP Announcement.

There are also other eligibility rules for Pairs and Dance, like split couples (explicit for those who placed 7-12 at the prior two Worlds, implicitly for those placed 1-6 at an unstated number of prior Worlds), and comeback/return skaters, those who didn't skate last season but placed 7-12 at the two prior Worlds before last season and those who place 1-6 in the last ten seasons.

If anyone knows anyone who qualifies under these rules, it would be great if you'd add it here.

In addition, those who win the designated (in the Announcement) early season events are put (officially at least) at the top of the alternates list, but they aren't part of the initial selection. This could be relevant in Pairs again.
I believe they are put at the bottom rather than the top, according to the rules anyways.
 

natsulian

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US Ladies:
- Bradie will get 2
- Mariah will get 2
- Ting will get 2, one of them being a host spot
- Starr Andrews will get 1
- Amber Glenn will get 1
- Megan Wessenberg will get 1

The rest is a mystery since we don’t know how well Karen and Gold are doing. Hanna might stay in Juniors and Ashley Lin supposedly skates for China now.
 

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As Canadian champion, Alaine will get Skate Canada. Gabby probably will too.

The Russians Ladies are brutal. I'm thinking Med and Zag might not even make the World Team this year.
 

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As Canadian champion, Alaine will get Skate Canada. Gabby probably will too.

The Russians Ladies are brutal. I'm thinking Med and Zag might not even make the World Team this year.

Alaine is down quite a ways on the top 75 list, so Skate Canada (as a host pick) may very well be the only event she receives. Daleman may even get two different events so SC can assign two other ladies to the event. Mallet is the only other one that can receive an event outside of the host event, but she's in the same boat as Alaine, being far down the list.
 

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Alaine is down quite a ways on the top 75 list, so Skate Canada (as a host pick) may very well be the only event she receives. Daleman may even get two different events so SC can assign two other ladies to the event. Mallet is the only other one that can receive an event outside of the host event, but she's in the same boat as Alaine, being far down the list.
While purely in terms of spots it would make sense to keep all three host spots at SCI and have Daleman go elsewhere, from a marketing/audience perspective I don't think Skate Canada would want to do that. Gabrielle is Canada's star female skater now, and they'll want the big guns for the home crowd. Indeed, it was kind of awkward when she withdrew from SCI last season because her face was all over the arena on Skate Canada's banners, pre-recorded video pieces, etc.
 

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US Ladies:
- Bradie will get 2
- Mariah will get 2
- Ting will get 2, one of them being a host spot
- Starr Andrews will get 1
- Amber Glenn will get 1
- Megan Wessenberg will get 1

The rest is a mystery since we don’t know how well Karen and Gold are doing. Hanna might stay in Juniors and Ashley Lin supposedly skates for China now.

We will get some Amber Glenn realness on the circuit again?

GP assignment day is always my Summer Christmas!!!!

I literally cancel all my plans the night they come out so I can study them, make predictions and then restudy them!!!!

#TrueStory
 

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Splits or retirements among the dancers on the list above:

SB-26: Elizaveta KHUDAIBERDIEVA / Nikita NAZAROV RUS​
SB-53: Eliana GROPMAN / Ian SOMERVILLE USA​
SB-54: Ksenia KONKINA / Alexander VAKHNOV RUS​
SB-60: Eva KUTS / Dmitrii MIKHAILOV RUS​
SB-61: Shira ICHILOV / Vadim DAVIDOVICH ISR​
SB-63: Yana BUGA / Georgy POKHILYUK AZE​
SB-66: Karina MANTA / Joseph JOHNSON USA​
SB-75: Emma GUNTER / Caleb WEIN USA​

Updates on junior dancers:
-Ushakova & Nekrasov stated that they were remaining juniors.
-Nguyen & Kolesnik stated they were remaining in juniors and are signed up for juniors at the Chesapeake Open.
-D'Allessandro & Waddell were at the Tea Time Foxtrot training and are on Canada's Next Gen team.
 

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I believe they are put at the bottom rather than the top, according to the rules anyways.
Aside from how often the ISU's rules are like red lights in Boston, ie, suggestions, according to the announcement, there's no mention of split couples who placed 1-6 with their previous partner in one of the official categories, and there are two other things that have filtered back that aren't published anywhere:

1. Host picks are among the first two, probably the first, as evidenced by the occasion that JPN and at least one other Fed has chosen "too many" host entries from the same Worlds selection group, leaving another Fed "too many" entries from a different group.

However, there's also:

2. The podium from the prior year allegedly gets its choice of events in placement order.

There have been some discussions here about certain skaters/teams wanting specific events, but this may clash with a host pick of someone lower on the medal stand. I think one was Chen, who was expected to want an event during school break, but that clashed with NHK, and then maybe James/Cipres who are doing/coaching on Battle of the Blades, and that might collide with their GP plans.

Also, have any seeded skaters/teams confirmed that they are skipping GP? Because that would bump other skaters into the seeded group.

Next in line are:

Ladies:
Ryabova (13)
Leung (14)

Men:
Kvitelashvili (13)
Tanaka (14)

Pairs:
Ryom/Kim (11)
Walsh/Michaud

Dance:
Kaliszek/Spodiriev (11)
Hurtado/Khaliavin (12)
 

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We will get some Amber Glenn realness on the circuit again?

GP assignment day is always my Summer Christmas!!!!

I literally cancel all my plans the night they come out so I can study them, make predictions and then restudy them!!!!

#TrueStory
The 2018-2019 season was my first season as an avid figure skating fan because I only started following figure skating after the 2018 Winter Olympics. Thus, I wasn't able to really experience the thrill (and boredom) of the off-season, so the 2019-2020 season will be my first "true" season as a fan. I can't wait to make predictions and study the lists with ya'll. :D

P.S. - Don't worry, I made sure to really brush up on my knowledge and did all the research I could so I can fully enjoy the sports. I actually found this website after I searched up who this Alysa Liu kid was. T_T
 

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So Russia has Zagitova, Medvedeva, and Samodurova guaranteed two each = 6 spots. Tuktamysheva, Trusova, Shcherbakova, Kostornaia, Sakhanovich, Tarusina, Gubanova, Konstantinova, and Sotskova guaranteed one each=9 spots IF all new age-eligible skaters go senior..
This is what Alexandre Lakernik said in a recent interview to Sport-Express (which was mainly about new UR and technical rules, and which Russian skaters they benefit or hinder, but also discusses the GP selection issues).
He only gives a clear picture (mentions specific names) about WC medalists (Zag and Med) and JWC (Trus and Scher).
Lakernik (english translation)
Q/SE: – Soon there will be a decision made on the names of (russian) GP participants. In my estimate, in Ladies Singles we should have 12 participants. Is this realistic?
AL: – There is a whole system in place with criteria, which takes into consideration WC, ISU ratings, SB ratings. As to the GP selections based on WC results, it is like this - Zagitova will be the first one to pick any 2 GP events of her choice. Next is Tursynbaeva, who gets to pick from the remaining 4 events. And Medvedeva...
Q/SE:– will have to go where she is sent (remaining two), so it seems....
AL:– Yes, she will end up with the remaining two. Although the skaters can can make deals/negotiate among themselves (in advance). But these three will not be at the same events for sure. Further more, there are medal winners from the JWC (they get to pick). And that is how the quotes are filled gradually, and what's left is filled (with the remaining).
 

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Interesting that, according to Lakernik, Jr. World medallists get to pick before everyone else from 4th at Worlds down, when, according to the announcement, they aren't guaranteed any spots and are only listed in the one-event section, and this was an explicit change from being guaranteed one spot in the past :COP:.

Maybe they'll update it this year, or maybe they'll continue to treat the announcement like the paper used to wrap fish and chips.
 

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