2015 - 2016 TV Season

PeterG said:
All people are responsible for all of their actions. The kid made an attempt on Herman's life and will not spend many years (or decades) in jail for his crime. Herman's abusive and disrespectful behaviour...no consequences. :(
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I was going to say the consequences for Herman's actions were getting stabbed but Angelskates beat me to it. What else should have happened though? I'm not one for name calling or offending others yet if everyone grabbed a knife and stabbed someone each time they were called names or felt offended then there would be a lot less people in this world!
 
Angelskates said:
What did he do that was abusive? He called him a name in jest, and the kid took offensive, asked him to take it back, Herrman wouldn't because he said the kid needs to get used to it, and was stabbed. How can you say he didn't have consequences, when he was stabbed? All for calling the kid a name. Did something else happened that I forgot?
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Herman was riding the kid hard about his work performance, which the kid sucked up. Then when Herman sent him to the workroom to do some work, he didn't give him space to do his job, but came in and thought that "riding the kid" would be a way to welcome him into the workplace. The kid said he didn't like being talked to negatively and being what he thought was harshly judged. Herman went at the kid again. "It's just a joke, kid. That's how we do it here". The kid made it clear that he didn't find it funny and did not like how he was being treated. Herman knew this kid had been the product of an abusive household, that's why the firehouse was trying to take him in under their wing. But for some reason (bad writing), Herman acted out of character and chose not to respect the abused kids request and went at him again. By then, the kid felt backed into a corner and lashed out.

ballettmaus said:
I was going to say the consequences for Herman's actions were getting stabbed but Angelskates beat me to it. What else should have happened though? I'm not one for name calling or offending others yet if everyone grabbed a knife and stabbed someone each time they were called names or felt offended then there would be a lot less people in this world!
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You're both right, there were consequences for Herman, in that he was stabbed. But Herman was back on the job in a matter of weeks, whereas this kid will now be spending his young adult life in prison. All because Herman refused to back off when the kid asked him to (more than once, I believe). Someone once told me to "know my audience" when a joke I told didn't go over well with everyone. Herman's "joking around" had dire consequences for a young man of his community, which doesn't make sense (like I said, bad writing) as Herman has shown himself to be dedicated to the people of his community.
 
PeterG - you called what Herman did abuse. I really disagree with that.

Also the kid is not going to jail for his adult life - the judge left it up to Herman, who essentially gave him a pass.
 
New/Returning Shows for the week Sunday February 21/2016 - Saturday February 27/2016:
http://www.cinemablend.com/televisi...ere-Schedule-Dates-Returning-Shows-99687.html

Sunday, February 21
10:00 p.m. - Girls - HBO
10:30 p.m. - Togetherness - HBO

Tuesday, February 23
12:30 a.m. - This Is Not Happening - Comedy Central

Friday, February 26
12:01 a.m. - FULLER HOUSE - Netflix

Please post any updates I may have missed.
 
PeterG said:
Herman was riding the kid hard about his work performance, which the kid sucked up. Then when Herman sent him to the workroom to do some work, he didn't give him space to do his job, but came in and thought that "riding the kid" would be a way to welcome him into the workplace. The kid said he didn't like being talked to negatively and being what he thought was harshly judged. Herman went at the kid again. "It's just a joke, kid. That's how we do it here". The kid made it clear that he didn't find it funny and did not like how he was being treated. Herman knew this kid had been the product of an abusive household, that's why the firehouse was trying to take him in under their wing. But for some reason (bad writing), Herman acted out of character and chose not to respect the abused kids request and went at him again. By then, the kid felt backed into a corner and lashed out.
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Generally, I have a problem with the kind of behavior you described above anyway. I realize it's subtle on the show but there have been displays of it; firemen being very manly (or what they think of as such). Still, it's no reason and no excuse to stab someone. The kid didn't even yell at Herman to stop, he didn't even try to punch him. He just grabbed a knife. I find it action and reaction to be too imbalanced to have a lot of sympathy with the kid, no matter his background.
 
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iZombie fans, did the most recent episode using "one more day" from Les Mis cause you to break out in laughter? I did. For now on I will always associate that song and think of iZombie.
 
Vikings season 4 premiered on Thursday, Feb. 18. I dvr'd the episode and I will watching it tonight.
 
topaz said:
iZombie fans, did the most recent episode using "one more day" from Les Mis cause you to break out in laughter? I did. For now on I will always associate that song and think of iZombie.
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I didn't laugh, but I loved it!
 
Absolutely loved the last two Madam Secretary episodes! I like the stand-alone/lighter episodes in between but I'm amazed how well they manage to combine intensity with some lightness and family scenes. It's really the mix of it all which appeals to me and I think the show would be missing something if any of the aspects were missing.

I'm just a bit amused by the constant turnover they seem to have - Joint Chief of Staff resigned, after the CIA director was involved in the conspiracy last season, there was another one afterwards and then another one who got fired during the last episode, so the next one will be number 3 within a year, then the National Security Advisor resigned and the next one was forced to retire... Is that normal or are they doing it on the show to keep the costs low/because of actor availability?

Anyway, I'm excited to see where they're going from here!
 
Ugh, I am soooo tired of making the husband a major part of the political storylines. Soooo tired of it.
 
manhn said:
Ugh, I am soooo tired of making the husband a major part of the political storylines. Soooo tired of it.
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But what do you want to do with him? He has to do something and I think if they do something entirely different, it'll be too much going on in too short a time.
 
manhn said:
Ugh, I am soooo tired of making the husband a major part of the political storylines. Soooo tired of it.
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Aren't you the same guy who didn't like the husband on Nashville? Is there a trend I'm seeing here?

:P
 
I liked Teddy. Unlike Tim Daly, Teddy had nothing to do with the music industry.

As to what they should do with him, I honestly have no desire to see him be anything more than a supportive husband. I don't need him to be part of the Secretary of State's work storylines. It's like The Ghost Whisperer, when the writers made Jim a more integral part of the magical storylines.

ETA: The X-Files was fantastic. Looking forward to more eps.
 
manhn said:
I liked Teddy. Unlike Tim Daly, Teddy had nothing to do with the music industry.

As to what they should do with him, I honestly have no desire to see him be anything more than a supportive husband. I don't need him to be part of the Secretary of State's work storylines. It's like The Ghost Whisperer, when the writers made Jim a more integral part of the magical storylines.
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Don't watch the Ghost Whisperer but it's not like there's Bess has magic (except for her persuasion skills maybe ;) ) and it's an unlikely field for Henry to be in. I don't perceive it as becoming a more integral part, I think they're just giving him a story. He was involved in it all from the beginning; yes, there were a few episodes during which he was "just" a husband and he still is the one who gets stuck with the parenting duties like going to the parent-teacher conference by himself in the episode before last and I don't think that'll change. But unless they find another Munsey-like story, which would be difficult, they'd have a hard time involving him because the only way Bess and Henry could work together on that was because the were working unofficially.
Their story has also evolved and a lot of what Henry did in the first season he can't do anymore because she's gotten more comfortable in the job. (like the many times she had trouble with Russell during the first season, for example, or soothing her doubts). Though he was still very supportive of her in the episodes after she had been to Russia. I kind of like the balance, that he is involved in some way and is supporting her in another and I hope they keep that up.

Now, if he starts to take over then that would be a whole other matter (though from what Leoni has said in various interviews, I think she'd be less than pleased if this became about Henry. Never say never though from what I heard no one seems to have any intention of doing that).

Just my opinion though :)
 
Watched Madam Secretary last night and thought it was an excellent episode - even the part with the annoying speechwriter, because Bebe was so fab in it! I laughed when he assumed she was a cat lady - didn't she play the lead in Cats on Broadway for many years? And just in case you didn't know that, they give her a sekret life as a dancer on the stage :)

I thought Henry's next step made perfect sense for the story development and for his character (and the President's). And I think Elizabeth said it all: "and now we can finally talk about work." I think that was the underlying motivation for this turn in the plot - my guess is that fans love Elizabeth and Henry as a couple (and are they still in RL? The chemistry is certainly there :grope:) and didn't like that they necessarily were keeping secrets and only having mundane conversations about the kids. The ep where his father died might have been designed for something similar - to bring them together on screen more. Anyway, now that they can talk about work it opens up a lot of opportunity for great dialogue and character development, so I'm all for it.
 
:sekret: I have seen the 1st episode of Game of Silence with the very yummy David Lyons in, it airs in April. It looks good but I am worried it may turn out to be a bit too dark and depressing to be a big hit.

NBC just love cancelling his shows. :mad:
 
clairecloutier said:
This is kind of old now, but we just watched Top of the Lake (2013), with Elisabeth Moss, on Netflix. Anyone who hasn't seen this yet should check it out. I found it gripping, with very interesting (albeit often sordid) characters. It's odd but good.

I love Elisabeth Moss so much as an actress. I would watch her in anything. And I just read they're making a second series of the show, yay!
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I really liked it, though it was very dark. And yes, Elisabeth Moss was fabulous in it. (Well, except for her NZ accent -- not terrible, but not exactly convincing. However I'm more sensitive to accents than most viewers, and it wasn't enough to ruin the show for me.)

A 2nd series? Interesting. When something is so clearly a standalone mini-series like that, I have mixed views when they decide to capitalize on its success like that. But I'll keep an open mind. Just like I'm keeping an open mind about a 2nd season of Happy Valley (very similar circumstances for it).
 
miffy said:
NBC just love cancelling his shows. :mad:
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Very true, unless your show's name starts with "Chicago"...

Miraculously, NBC just might renew a 30 minute sitcom this season - "Superstore" (though I suspect being always risk averse, NBC will only order a 10 episode 2nd Season just like they did with Season 1).
 
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