Survivor S46

I assumed Maria's vote against Charlie was just sour grapes. She couldn't win so she didn't want her "partner" to win either.

Regarding Venus, I can see why she rubbed them all the wrong way. She wasn't much of a collaborator and seemed unwilling to compromise or work with the team unless she was in charge. I will say I didn't like her at first, but then I grew to respect her and even root for her a little bit once I saw how genuine she was.
 
I never really hated on Venus, but I did think she was a bit delusional at points in the game. But perhaps it was editing and she was really driving the game harder than it appeared, and had a bit more sway with some of the other survivors than it appeared.
 
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I lost my faith in Survivor editing back during the Jenna and Heidi season. Never did I anticipate her to win that final vote in a landslide. I know it was against Matthew but still, the way that season was edited was very deceptive. At least for me it was.
 
I lost my faith in Survivor editing back during the Jenna and Heidi season. Never did I anticipate her to win that final vote in a landslide. I know it was against Matthew but still, the way that season was edited was very deceptive. At least for me it was.
I feel the exact opposite. They did their best to show Matthew as a creeper or oddball without many connections, up until the very end (I remember a machete scene and I remember Christy really being irked by him, too). It was all about Rob that season anyways but I wasn’t surprised in the least that Jenna won.

The only editing I haven’t gotten lately, based on what the tribemates said, is Erika. We didn’t see any of the stuff some of the jury talked about that gave her the win in their books. That season, the cameras loved Xander anyways until his crash and burn comment in picking someone to go to the final with him.
 
I finally got around to watching the final episode (a good indication of how I felt about the season :blah: ). Now I understand why Charlie looked so angry.
 
Wow, I really did not like this season much at all, and there were so many people I really did not like at all! I just finished watching last night, but only through the reveal of the winner.

There seemed to me to be more emotional outbursts than in other seasons, to the point where I was questioning the producers’ decision to accept some of them in the game. I was worried about Ben and his panic attacks. And Liz’s outbursts of wailing and yelling and sobbing…. I wondered at one point if she was deliberately being so over the top but then we’d see footage of her sobbing loudly by herself. And why on earth would she go on a show like Survivor with such a restricted diet? And Bhanu…. OMG.

I also thought Jeff was more sadistic than usual in his descriptions of the food that the survivors would be getting in the different reward challenges. I know he always does that but he just seemed over the top to me.

Oh, and it seemed to me that WAY more survivors than usual totally misread the others and were confident to the point of being very smug that they were safe. I could not believe that 4 (or was it 5?) were voted out with an idol in their pocket —in a row! And after being so sure they were in control.

Could not stand Venus —way too smug, Q —OMG so crazy, Liz —I can’t even…And Q was even going on during the final tribal council, saying things that were wrong and everyone was looking at him like he was crazy.

And I found the whole Q-skirt thing bizarre.

Maria made mistakes but I thought she would win it if she got to the end.

Agreed. I honestly don't know how such an emotional person gets through normal, daily life. Maybe he isn't like this normally and Survivor is making him crazy, but :scream:. I can't imagine living with someone like him. And when he was happy that Q wanted him to be the Philip to Q's Rob--WTH? Who wants that? I can't believe they were even thinking of keeping him over Kenzie; she may be a strategic threat, but at least she isn't hysterical 24/7.
I had forgotten about this guy but yes, OMG.

Why isn’t Venus being voted off? That arrogant smirk of hers is so annoying. I’d vote for her very fast my friends!
OMG yes!
LOL that Venus thinks she masterminded Soda's blindside. And how does she EVER think she is going to bring Maria around after this? The problem is that Maria doesn't like the 20-year-old telling her what to do? Who wants anyone telling them what to do? And Q, I could be looking at you here, too.
Yes, yes, yes.

I thought we were done with the whiny tears when Bhanu finally left, ugh. Agree with all of you - she knew going in. And they may be low on rice, but they've had rice, they have fish, and she was on a reward about 5 days earlier with sandwiches and other food. As a member of Nami, she also benefitted from all the rewards that make life at camp easier early on, including food several times.
I thought Jeff said at one point they’d gone 23 days without rice? I don’t remember seeing footage of them cooking any rice. The only rice I remember was some being given specifically to Liz.

Another over confident Survivor smiling at Tribal Council and not using the Idol. 🤯
Yes, it was crazy how no one could read the room. Or perhaps it was an exceptional group of liars. :lol:
Liz is the biggest threat? :unsure: Liz played the hardest game? :unsure: What show was I watching because the only thing I can remember about Liz is her whining and complaining most of the time. Maybe its selective memory because I found her annoying? What does she do that she is 'already a millionaire'? I don't always pay attention when they show the little screens of what they do.
Yes, I could NOT believe how Liz was SO SURE she would have won and went on about it a bit.
First time I think I woulda been okay with any of the Final 3 winning. I kinda think Charlie lost it on the 'what will you do with the money' question.
I think so, too. Kenzie had a much better answer ready for that.

Charlie's interviews since the finale have been great but also heartbreaking. He said that he's basically ended the friendship with Maria, because she continues to string him along. Saying she regrets voting for Kenzie, then saying that she doesn't regret it. And even in recent days has been flip flopping on her reasoning. He's given very diplomatic responses saying that their relationship isn't what it could have been, but he wishes her no ill will.
That’s so sad to hear about Maria. I’m glad that Charlie has been diplomatic. I liked him a lot and wish him success in the future in whatever he does.
 
When I think back on this season, two major fails for me. One is casting - starting with Bhanu and all his whining, Liz and her nonsense, Q being somewhat amusing but also essentially throwing a wrench in just about everybody's game - all not good tv. They tried to show us some non-game content, some of which was fun, but in the process I get to my second issue and that's story editing.

In the EW interviews, everyone was asked what wasn't shown, and in some cases, they were key strategy points. They obviously knew how it would end so that's why Kenzie got such a likeable edit (and a ton of airtime), but I didn't like that they took the Maria/Charlie alliance and convinced us it was pretty much all they had until it came time for the Big Betrayal. In reality, Charlie was playing a much more complex game, but I guess they didn't want us to know that because they had to justify Kenzie's win. Ben was also playing much more than they gave him credit for, earning his way to the final on his own merit.

This and the previous season would have been cast at the same time, with the final cast locked in around the time that viewers were loving Carolyn's crazy and Yam Yam's social game and all the nerdy but loveable players like Carson and Matt and Frannie. To me that's where they might have been thinking Bhanu was a great casting, and that Liz would be another kooky player. But both of them turned out to be among the most grating and cringy players in Survivor history, not least of which is that it seemed to many fans that both were there to promote their careers more than anything.
 
I just got around to watching the after show. Mad respect for both Kenzie and Charlie, especially Charlie. You could really see how disappointed he was —maybe even crushed— and he took a breath and answered well and graciously, especially when he congratulated Kenzie. He will go far in life, I think. And while he didn’t win a million dollars, at least he got $100K, which is hardly nothing.
 

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