Survivor 47

[Habs]

I am amazed that no one is targeting Teeny. I have seen her mentioned in several exit interviews as the boot's favorite person in camp, just so fun and personable and caring. I'm guessing she isn't seen as a strategist, which seems to be the theme, but in a social game, the most likable person is just as dangerous as the most strategic person--as Russell Hantz could tell them.

I'm getting more and more annoyed by Teeny as the season progresses. I've liked her fine all along but the late in the season entitlement is starting to creep in.

I'm all in for a Rachel win at this point. I think she's playing far and away the best game this season.

 

[BaileyCatts]

Given I still don't understand this game even after 47 seasons , does Andy really think anyone on the Jury would vote for him when he flips on everyone every chance he gets? If I was on the Jury, I would not vote for him simply for that reason. But again, I am clueless.

I wouldn't mind Rachel winning. I think I will start pulling for her. I hope she can keep her Idol a secret until she whips it out and takes out someone who doesn't see it coming. I hope she uses it to take out Andy. I don't like him at all anymore.

Didn't Sue say she would play her Idol for Caroline? Or were they all secure enough to not think Andy would flip ... again. Maybe I misunderstood that part.

 

[Prancer]

Given I still don't understand this game even after 47 seasons , does Andy really think anyone on the Jury would vote for him when he flips on everyone every chance he gets? If I was on the Jury, I would not vote for him simply for that reason. But again, I am clueless.

Flipping is never popular, but being a strategist is; it would all come down to how Andy is perceived IMO. And I don't think anyone sees him as a strategist.

Didn't Sue say she would play her Idol for Caroline? Or were they all secure enough to not think Andy would flip ... again. Maybe I misunderstood that part.

No, that's what happened.

 

[Kasey]

Well, Andy and Genevieve both had classy exits, good for them. I was hoping that Andy could get through, but once they figured out he was more strategic than given credit for, he was done. I think of all that is left, Rachel should easily get the win. Teeny even admitted that she really had no clue what was going on in the game most of the time, Sue has mostly ridden coattails, and Sam, why is he even still there? Rachel is the only one of the four with any sense of strategy at all. Between her and Genevieve, I'm glad she's the one who made it to next week.

 

[Sparks]

I enjoyed last night. This is a good season. Confession: I think I have a girl crush on Rachel

 

[BaileyCatts]

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!! Did anyone else hear me screaming at my TV all night as I was cheering for Rachel to win Immunity and hoping they would vote out Andy and then Genevieve! I done scared my poor kitty half to death.

As I said, I still don't understand this game, but i LOVE LOVE LOVE it when people I do not like get voted out. I just go based on whether or not I like the person or not and if I don't like them, I want them out.

 

[Spikefan]

I didn’t watch live so just hit fast forward to make sure Rachel made it. Will go back to watch in full this weekend.

 

[tony]

Rachel should win easily in a fair world, which makes me worry that it'll be Rachel vs. Teeny in fire, we will get 15 minutes of Teeny crying about how she can't start fire and Rachel practicing one time and getting it in 10 seconds, and then Teeny somehow comes away with the upset (similar to Tony vs. Sarah in Winners at War). That, or I could see Sam winning final immunity and giving it up to face off against Rachel. I wrote in previous seasons how I don't like the final 4 fire-making so much anymore because if there's a clear favorite, it's likely the immunity winner will want to step down to face off against them and knock them out to sway the jury for the win, and this may be more of the same -- if Rachel doesn't just win it outright.

Teeny has babbled so much about being confused in the game, I really wonder what she'd try to take credit for at final tribal besides "I made good relationships with a lot of people". And I'm just imagining Sue going to final tribal thinking her "I'm actually way older than I made everyone believe!" talking point is going to sway people.

I think The Amazing Race has a golden opportunity, regardless of this result, to pair Genevieve and Rachel together in an upcoming season.. if they haven't done so already.

 

[Jenny]

This season has been interesting in that beyond the early boots, everyone with one exception has been focused on strategy, and all the boots have been based on who is the biggest strategic threat. Even Kyle, who was perceived as not that strategic, was a strategic boot because the rest of them were at a point where they knew they'd need an immunity or two and as long as Kyle was there the chances of winning were a lot less.

The one exception of course is Sue. Haven't liked her from the start, and it didn't get any better. Her venom for Kyle then Andy was ridiculous - maybe in past seasons, but no one else was playing the "you wrote my name down so now I'm after you" game. I actually had to laugh when she played her idol like it was some big reveal, when in fact it wasn't needed and why is that Sue? Because you're not a threat to anyone.

So, in my view Rachel will likely and deservedly win, and I think that's what most of the jury wants too. If she's not there, while they all seem to love Teeny, I'd be very surprised if this is the kind of jury/season where the nice person wins. She didn't have enough game, and in fact there were many times when she had the wrong game. I'm assuming that Sue's pitch will be about how she really proved herself out there physically (and kudos to that) and how she had this idol no one knew about, but in the end she didn't use it to any effect, so who cares. She might also attempt another big reveal about her age, but I'm assuming like the rest of us here at home the jury will think "so?"

Which leaves me with Sam. Just read Genevieve's EW interview, and she gives him a lot of credit - check this out, remembering that Sam chose who would go on the reward with him:

A few days before Operation: Italy, Sam was starting to think, “Okay, we need a fake idol. Our best bet at pulling something together is we fracture the majority group and get them to split votes.” But how do you magically and organically say, “Oh yeah, now today I've got an idol?” And then there was some discussion of, “Well, which is the likeliest person to flip?” I thought maybe Teeny, Sam thought maybe Andy.

I was really nervous about working with Andy, but had built up so much goodwill with Sam that if he wanted Andy, fine, we'll do Andy. And then he won the reward. So there was a lot that went into it, and from my perspective, Sam sort of laid the table for that to happen. And then when Andy's pitching this plan and we're sitting there in our beanbags and just like, “Am I being punked? Why is this all falling into place? This is not supposed to happen on Survivor.” But I think Andy was itching to make a move, and so Sam was accurately targeting him as the best person to flip.

Plus, Sam can claim some power in the earlier phase of the game, when everyone was targeting him and Sierra, so while they hobbled him by getting rid of her, if he makes it til the end, then it might come down to who can pitch better story, especially as we remember that in the early phase of the game, it was Rachel who felt left out of everything.

 

[Sparks]

#survivor finale prediction - Sue vs Rachel in fire making. Sue scrapes the soot from her face she’s been saving all season, whoosh her fire ignites. Soot-faced Sue sweeps to victory with the most out of the box big move in survivor history. ~ Stephen Fishbach

 

[Prancer]

The one exception of course is Sue. Haven't liked her from the start, and it didn't get any better. Her venom for Kyle then Andy was ridiculous - maybe in past seasons, but no one else was playing the "you wrote my name down so now I'm after you" game. I actually had to laugh when she played her idol like it was some big reveal, when in fact it wasn't needed and why is that Sue? Because you're not a threat to anyone.

Sue has been described by some boots as really needy, so I don't think she has a chance.

So, in my view Rachel will likely and deservedly win, and I think that's what most of the jury wants too. If she's not there, while they all seem to love Teeny, I'd be very surprised if this is the kind of jury/season where the nice person wins. She didn't have enough game, and in fact there were many times when she had the wrong game.

The same can sort of be said of Rachel, who has been playing from the bottom pretty much all season. Doing a great job of it, but she's been completely out of the boots many times.

I do see Teeny and Sue as something of goats, though, while Rachel is definitely not a goat and hasn't been carried along on goodwill at all.

Which leaves me with Sam. Just read Genevieve's EW interview, and she gives him a lot of credit - check this out, remembering that Sam chose who would go on the reward with him:

While true, I think if Sam had won, we would have seen this as part of the "How Sam won the game" story. Since we didn't, I'm going to bet that he loses. Instead, we get to see the jury going "Yeah, Rachel!"

 

[Sparks]

we get to see the jury going "Yeah, Rachel!"

So say we all

 

[Jayar]

Being on the outside of votes and finding ways to progress whilst being a strong strategic and physical threat would earn my vote for the win. Should Rachel win, I predict she is going to be remembered as one of the best winners in the new era if not the entire franchise.

 

[Kasey]

Congratulations on the jury awarding the person who deserved most to win! (and almost unanimously) A satisfying season this year. Andy gets my vote for biggest turn-around for the season!

 

[Jenny]

Much happier ending than last season! In reading the post interviews, even Rachel thought Sam did an excellent job at TC, but it really was Rachel's to lose in the end. I think the key to her win, and why Jeff has already declared her one of the great winners of all time, was not that she found/earned all the advantages, but that she knew when - and how - to use them.

One thing I was laughing at was imagining the production crew: OK I need you to climb up on those very uncomfortable looking rocks and look thoughtful while we fly a drone around you a couple of times, and then while you all eat breakfast you have to have a PC discussion about each jury member, oh and Sue here's a bar of soap and a bottle of shampoo because even the crew can't stand it any more and we're trying to put on a tv show here.

 

[BaileyCatts]

Was screaming so much for Rachel to get that final Immunity and so happy she won!

But at the final Tribal, right near the beginning, I think the very first question, when she said something like not caring about her legacy or not caring about 'something', whatever it was she said? I thought welp, that's it. You just lost it Rachel. That one statement right there done lost you this entire game. Which once again shows I know nothing about this game.

I like how they do the Reunion now with just the Jury members. I hope they keep it that way in the future.

Why do they even bother having a 3 person Final. I want the vote out system to go down to 3 people, then to have a final Immunity challenge with 3 people then whoever of those 3 loses has to make fire to get the final Top 2 spot.

 

[tony]

Was screaming so much for Rachel to get that final Immunity and so happy she won!

But at the final Tribal, right near the beginning, I think the very first question, when she said something like not caring about her legacy or not caring about 'something', whatever it was she said? I thought welp, that's it. You just lost it Rachel. That one statement right there done lost you this entire game. Which once again shows I know nothing about this game.

She got puzzled looks by that response, but a few minutes later she told a story that backtracked on that and needing to learn to own the things she's good at. So it wasn't as if she said it and then it was never resolved for the jury or the audience.

Why do they even bother having a 3 person Final. I want the vote out system to go down to 3 people, then to have a final Immunity challenge with 3 people then whoever of those 3 loses has to make fire to get the final Top 2 spot.

I think 3 is fair, and if we get another Dom/Wendell split 4-4 vote, it adds that much extra drama to having the third person make the million-dollar decision.

One thing I loved about Rachel's final tribal was that she really hammered down the fact that she won the immunity outright, didn't feel like she needed to sacrifice her game by giving it up to win fire, and that her resume should speak for the things she's done. I'm still bitter over Chris Underwood sitting a big part of the game out, getting handed an advantage that guaranteed his final 4 basically, and then winning fire as a resume booster that got him the win. That season was terrible, and the whole concept of "needing" to win fire to win the game is hopefully snuffed. Even in Winners at War, I think at least one former winner told Natalie that she would've gotten the vote if she had put herself into the fire challenge, after she literally was the first person voted out and sat out 95% of the game.

 

[Prancer]

Great win for Rachel!

Even Kyle thought Rachel should win, but apparently he voted for Sam because he knew everyone else was voting for Rachel and he wanted Sam to win second place over Sue.