ISU 2025 GPF Men FS - Fa, A Long Long Way To Shun

[tony]

This is the first time I see such a celebration over a 40 pts loss.

A medal at the GPF for a Japanese skater probably goes a long, long way in an Olympic season. Not that he wasn't already a heavy Olympic team favorite.

 

[Andrey aka Pushkin]

Yuma is smooth as silk

 

[Hedwig]

Love Sato's coach's reaction.

I want a coach like this behind me every step of the way :-D

 

[Andrey aka Pushkin]

This is an absolute banger or a program with way too many spread eagles.

Not much different from Michelle Kwan doing her 32 teeth spiral to fields of gold against Trusova and 4 quads.

 

[Wyliefan]

Love this program for him (rabid Puccini fangirl here!).

 

[Andrey aka Pushkin]

Ok, very nice.

So, basically to win the Olympics Ilya doesn't have to skate the SP, right?

 

[tony]

A bit too rushed on many of the jumps, although still doing them, it got really tight at the end and it isn't quite hitting as a whole package like some of his previous programs. But he's still the absolute best skater and can get down the ice with little to no movement repeatedly in this program. The step sequence is near perfection.

Obviously has it all over Malinin in skating skills and in composition, and at least there was a program for the 4 minutes. But it doesn't matter these days.

 

[MINAM]

Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN

Please, I want another great skate!

4sal
Very fast.
4tl+2tl
3lutz two-footed?
3ax 1euler 3al
FCFS
He looks pretty calm
4tl
3flip 2loop?
3ax held on
Come on!
Choreo seq
Step seq

Small errors here and there. Decent skate.
He questions himself. He's all smiles.
I'm glad he didn't crumble under pressure.

 

[skatingguy]

Yuma Kagiyama
Rank after SP: 1
Coach: Masakazu Kagiyama, Carolina Kostner
Music: Turandot Christopher Tin Finale Concert Suite

4S
4T+2T
3Lz
3A+1Eu+3S
Flying Change Foot Sit Spin 4
4T
3F+2Lo - slight step out
3A - step out
Change Foot Combo Spin 4
Choreo Sequence
Step Sequence 4
Flying Change Foot Combo Spin 4

A strong free skate, but a few too many errors today.

193.64 = 4th Place
302.41 = 2nd Place

 

[Private Citizen]

The tech content just isn't there, and a lot of the GOE is generous. The quad toe - double toe would have had negative GOE for any other skater.

I hope the judges have the courage to put this fourth, where it belongs, in the free skate. He should be last on the technical mark with the lack of content (but won't be).

 

[Karen-W]

Lots of little bobbles here and there for Yuma on the jumping passes. He had enough of a lead over Shun from the SP that I can't see the judges doing the right thing here and giving Shun the silver medal.

I still stand by my criticism about the last three elements of this program not really building to an effective end.

 

[Bunny Hop]

Kagiyama making a lot of small errors. Come on, you can't afford that here. Beautifully skated but should be behind Sato.

Disappointed for him. Malinin was unstoppable but Kagiyama needed to be clean with Sato being on in both parts of the event.

 

[Kateri]

He's wonderful, but I still can't get into Yuma's LP.

 

[4rkidz]

Beautiful program for Yuma but not sure if enough tonight for the podium

ETA 4th in free but 2nd overall due to short so that is fair

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Ouch, 4th in the free!

 

[MINAM]

Yeah, Kagiyama 4th and overall he ends up 2nd.

No complaints from me.

 

[Private Citizen]

Well, judges did the right thing and put it FORTH . Not by a big enough margin, but happy to see some semblance of reality-based judging.

 

[tony]

92.91 vs. 92.17 - everything that's broken about the system right there. There's a TES mark for a reason and in fact, there's a reason skaters who are once in a lifetime JUMPS-wise can run away with that mark.

 

[BittyBug]

I hope the judges have the courage to put this fourth, where it belongs, in the free skate.

What's tonight's Lotto number, please.

 

[Andrey aka Pushkin]

I know it doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things, but I'm with @tony on this one.

Malinin having 92 pcs second only to Kagiyama with less than a point difference.... Is just beyond. It's akin to Chok/Bates winning the dance competition....more sweets, please

 

[victorskid]

Men FS results:
1 Ilia MALININ USA 238.24 146.07 92.17 9.18 9.43 9.07 0.00 #4
2 Daniel GRASSL ITA 194.72 110.86 83.86 8.36 8.50 8.32 0.00 #3
3 Shun SATO JPN 194.02 107.21 86.81 8.68 8.64 8.75 0.00 #5
4 Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN 193.64 100.73 92.91 9.36 9.18 9.36 0.00 #6
5 Adam SIAO HIM FA FRA 180.15 94.97 85.18 8.61 8.54 8.43 0.00 #2
6 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 170.89 93.71 77.18 7.61 7.71 7.86 0.00 #1


Protocols link: https://results.isu.org/results/sea...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Overall results:
1 Ilia MALININ USA 332.29 3 1
2 Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN 302.41 1 4
3 Shun SATO JPN 292.08 2 3
4 Daniel GRASSL ITA 288.72 4 2
5 Adam SIAO HIM FA FRA 258.64 5 5
6 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 242.19 6 6

 

[Wyliefan]

Second overall! Aww, he looks so relieved.

 

[Wyliefan]

Ted, if you don't know how to pronounce Kagiyama by now ...

 

[Bunny Hop]

Hung on for 2nd place, but 4th is probably fair for the free.

 

[MacMadame]

That's the best I've seen Kagiyama skate that and it only came in fourth. His team and he need to do something about this FS as it's just not working for him.

 

[MINAM]

Interview:

Kagiyama: I'm kicking myself. But, Malinin-senshu delivering a FANTASTIC skate and Shun also doing great is giving me great motivation.

Sato: Before starting the FS, unfortunately (he chuckles) I heard Malinin-senshu's score and that really made me nervous.

They said a lot more, but that was all I could type.

 

[tony]

That's the best I've seen Kagiyama skate that and it only came in fourth. His team and he need to do something about this FS as it's just not working for him.

What did you just watch? Nowhere near his best. Doubled toe loop. Doubled loop (and a messy combo there at that). Tight 3A at the end. Quite a few points thrown away in those two missed opportunities at triples in the combo.

 

[Karen-W]

He's wonderful, but I still can't get into Yuma's LP.

It overwhelms him. I think the lengths his team has gone to with this FS - the special music arrangement, the custom recording, etc - plus the subpar construction of the last three elements (the step sequence should precede the choreo sequence, IMO) - it's put this enormous pressure on him and he has yet to deliver a clean FS yet this season, which leaves a "hmmm" impression in the end.

 

[MacMadame]

What did you just watch? Nowhere near his best. Doubled toe loop. Doubled loop (and a messy combo there at that). Tight 3A at the end. Quite a few points thrown away in those two missed opportunities at triples in the combo.

He's made mistakes in the jumps in every skate I've seen this season.

ETA and it was a SB score, too

 

[Private Citizen]

92.91 vs. 92.17 - everything that's broken about the system right there. There's a TES mark for a reason and in fact, there's a reason skaters who are once in a lifetime JUMPS-wise can run away with that mark.

Hard disagree. Kagiyama had so many little errors, balance checks, etc. If a fall is going to cap the PCS, the multiple mistakes that Kagiyama had -- which I find even more disruptive -- should cap the PCS, too. 8.5 seems appropriate for what Kagiyama put out with three mistakes plus several other little errors. Ignoring the code and focusing on big picture, I'd prefer a code that scored Sato significantly above Kagiyama to have given him the silver.