TanithandBenFan
Author of the Ice and Edge Series
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Interesting. I don't see them as Broadway types.
Caroline is a huge fan of Broadway.
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Interesting. I don't see them as Broadway types.
Caroline is a huge fan of Broadway.
She is, but I still think Green & Parsons are at their best with programs based on emotion, color, technique, and not narrative.Caroline is a huge fan of Broadway.
She is, but I still think Green & Parsons are at their best with programs based on emotion, color, technique, and not narrative.
Third possibility, comebacks are hard and they are not as ready as they think they can be.Denis Ten Memorial entries are up - the Browns and NesMark have been assigned, which begs the question... Where are the Shibs? There's only one Challenger left prior to the GP series' start - Trialeti Trophy - and I suppose they could be assigned to that, but between their absence from Champs Camp, the total blackout of information or even small training clips on their social media, and the time they've been away from competition... It begs the question whether this is a legitimate comeback or just a grift on their part that has taken away sponsorship opportunities from other skaters (like their newly unveiled, as of yesterday, Delta sponsorship).
Where are the Shibs? There's only one Challenger left prior to the GP series' start - Trialeti Trophy - and I suppose they could be assigned to that,
I didn't see their name mentioned for Trialeti in the recent announcement. Jason Brown is going to be there. They didn't announce all the competitiors, but I think they would have mentioned the Shibs if they were going to be there:
I'm not convinced that this is the wisest route. Even if they are not in peak condition, they need the experience before going into the Grand Prix. And i don't see how you can show any consistency in your placements with international judges if you do just two international competitions before the team is chosen.
I have to admit that I thought Delta's choice of the Shibs as ambassadors for the Olympics was an odd one. Chock and Bates have to be as well known or better than Amber, who also was chosen, and Chock and Bates are a lock for the team, barring injury.
That's funny because the Shibs used to do RL stuff all the time. Chock/Bates will makes those clothes look hot though so it makes perfect sense to me.C/B just got a Ralph Lauren sponsorship so that’s pretty big. I think Madi did a Delta commercial in 2022.
C/B just got a Ralph Lauren sponsorship so that’s pretty big. ...
... I have to admit that I thought Delta's choice of the Shibs as ambassadors for the Olympics was an odd one. Chock and Bates have to be as well known or better than Amber, who also was chosen, and Chock and Bates are a lock for the team, barring injury.
I don't recall them doing them back then either. Idk if it were me I'd want to go to these early comps and get some of the rust off but they are not me so presumably they have what they think is a working strategy.Going from memory (which may not be great anymore lol) but didn’t the Shibs skip Challengers/Senior B comps the last few years they were competing? Seems odd not to get their programs out there after so many years away though.
Yes. I think in both the shows covering the T&D and vm comebacks, there was a bit of time spent about having to deal with competition nerves again. Not easy.I don't recall them doing them back then either. Idk if it were me I'd want to go to these early comps and get some of the rust off but they are not me so presumably they have what they think is a working strategy.
I remember that Challenger! The Fix You program was almost universally panned on FSU and they lost to teams they should have beaten if they were going to be a world medal contender, but I thought, "this is the first program they've had in awhile that I really like."I believe the last challenger (or senior B) the Shibs performed was with their Fix You program. The program wasn't great at that competition, but Zoueva worked her magic and they added the second piece of music with the twizzles before Skate Canada. The rest is history. As anxious as we all to see their programs, I'll trust their judgement as to when they will debut them.
If those sponsors chose to sponsor the Shibs with their seven year absence over other athletes who have been competing in the past few seasons, then they most likely weren’t getting those sponsorships anyway. But don’t let that get in the way of adding to the list of sins.It begs the question whether this is a legitimate comeback or just a grift on their part that has taken away sponsorship opportunities from other skaters (like their newly unveiled, as of yesterday, Delta sponsorship).
You know, everyone here knows I can be pretty spiteful and posts like this are only going to further dampen my interest in or support for their comeback. It's taken me a full four years to reach a point of acceptance that Jason Brown is our 2nd best US man this quad, mostly because of one particular poster who always jumped to a fanatical defense of their favorite skater. Do you really want to engage with me in this way regarding the Shibs?If those sponsors chose to sponsor the Shibs with their seven year absence over other athletes who have been competing in the past few seasons, then they most likely weren’t getting those sponsorships anyway. But don’t let that get in the way of adding to the list of sins.
You know, everyone here knows I can be pretty spiteful and posts like this are only going to further dampen my interest in or support for their comeback. It's taken me a full four years to reach a point of acceptance that Jason Brown is our 2nd best US man this quad, mostly because of one particular poster who always jumped to a fanatical defense of their favorite skater. Do you really want to engage with me in this way regarding the Shibs?
Listen, you're defending a team that hasn't shown up yet. A team that hasn't competed in 7.5 years. Maybe they'll be on the Trialeti Trophy entries next week and if they are, great. But if they aren't... Well, I call as much bullshit on this "comeback" as I'll call bullshit on Sui/Han's "comeback" - that's another team (in a different discipline) that hasn't shown up at anything yet.You post how you want. Call them grifters, scam artists, charlatans, fake, any other synonym of your choice. I’m just responding to what I’m reading. I engage with others however I see fit, and if I cause undue harm, then I will apologize for it. However, I can’t control how you behave, nor do I want to. If you end up going on an online offensive campaign against the Shibs because of something I wrote, that’s on you, not me.
Just you wait 'enry Higgins, just you wait...Listen, you're defending a team that hasn't shown up yet. A team that hasn't competed in 7.5 years. Maybe they'll be on the Trialeti Trophy entries next week and if they are, great. But if they aren't... Well, I call as much bullshit on this "comeback" as I'll call bullshit on Sui/Han's "comeback" - that's another team (in a different discipline) that hasn't shown up at anything yet.