Was This Personal or Professional: (UHC CEO murder)

[misskarne]

I would bet good money that when more comes out, there will be a friend or family member he loved dearly who has suffered at the hands of the fcuked up American "healthcare" system, and likely that very company.

 

[Vagabond]

I would bet good money that when more comes out, there will be a friend or family member he loved dearly who has suffered at the hands of the fcuked up American "healthcare" system, and likely that very company.

Save your money. His family is part of that healthcare system.

Update from Luke Broadwater

www.nytimes.com

He also gave the Unabomber's manifesto a four-star review on an Internet platform, which is enough to lose much of the sympathy he might otherwise get.

4 Stars for the Unabomber: 'Person of interest' in CEO slaying reviewed killer's manifesto

"It's simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out," Mangione wrote of the Unabomber Manifesto.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Rob]

He suffered from chronic back pain according to a roommate. But could ride a bike through Central Park in just a few minutes. I guess e-bikes might be easier to ride.

He apparently went NY to Philly to Pittsburgh to Altoona since the murder. And perhaps points in between. There is media speculation that he was stalking another victim. But maybe he just went somewhere he knew since he went to college/grad school in Philly.

 

[Sparks]

The Unabomber wasn't necessarily political. Neither left or right. He was a schizophrenic genius.

 

[CantALoop]

And yet, reading the review he wrote of the Unabomber's manifesto (which you also linked earlier), his views certainly do not align with any of the right-leaning personalities you mention.

Based on what we do know, I'm inclined to agree with PC's assessment of his political leanings, no matter how the mainstream media wants to try and spin it the opposite direction.

Is it the MSM painting it this way? I've seen that sort of thing only on social media.

In terms of left/right, not yet, but Karen-W made the first claim about MSM trying to spin political leanings, so I'd ask her.

With all MSM's initial cluelessness about any possible motive and the pearl-clutching and finger-wagging at people on social media not reacting to this CEO's death like it would be expected for someone else, I've only seen MSM taking one side, and it sure isn't the side of people screwed over by insurance.

 

[manhn]

I only read the news these days for very local or Canadian news, so I will ask it here. Did he have a job? I would think his family would have better insurance, but he may have aged out of his parents’ plan. His education seemed pretty stellar but may have employment issues.

 

[Sparks]

Apparently, the United Healthcare CEO shooter comes from a family that is much richer than the United Healthcare CEO

 

[BittyBug]

I only read the news these days for very local or Canadian news, so I will ask it here. Did he have a job? I would think his family would have better insurance, but he may have aged out of his parents’ plan.

The ACA allows parents to provide coverage to children until the age of 26.

 

[ilovepaydays]

He also gave the Unabomber's manifesto a four-star review on an Internet platform, which is enough to lose much of the sympathy he might otherwise get.

If he was such a fan of Ted Kaczynski, he obviously missed the part where he was a recluse that hid completely from the public when he was mailing his bombs. He certainly didn’t go to a restaurant less than a week afterwards. ?
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I think it is way too early to know his motive or reasons. It’s been less than a week and he was arrested today.

 

[manhn]

Then Wouldn’t his family have better insurance than what this company apparently offers?

 

[Sparks]

I don't think it's about money

 

[Coco]

According to the Daily Mail, posts to a social media account alleged to be the suspected shooter's indicate that his family hadn't had contact with him for months. People were asking if he was OK and telling him he was missed.

 

[Rob]

I don't think it's about money

No,I don’t think it’s about UHC failing to pay his family’s claims or nursing home bills. The parts of his manifesto they did describe sounds more like a vigilante activist.

 

[manhn]

But why that CEO then, as opposed to the other CEO’s who actually live in NYC (so, more opportunities to, uhm, enact your plans)?

 

[Rob]

But why that CEO then, as opposed to the other CEO’s who actually live in NYC (so, more opportunities to, uhm, enact your plans)?

UHC has been in the news in the last couple of years for unusually high profits and high claim denials and its executives for potential insider trading. Locations of annual meetings are public information.

 

[Spikefan]

If it was just going after horrible rich people getting away with massive crimes and he was dealing with pain, the Sackler family would make more sense. I honestly have no clue what his motive was. I’m now circling back to a personal connection since he came from a wealthy family. Since it looks like he wanted to get caught we may know shortly.

 

[CantALoop]

But why that CEO then, as opposed to the other CEO’s who actually live in NYC (so, more opportunities to, uhm, enact your plans)?

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...ofessional-uhc-ceo-murder.112364/post-6697028

 

[Cachoo]

Reading this it sounds like this guy was all over the place politically. So far this seems both tragic and nonsensical:

The Murky Right-Wing Politics of the Alleged UHC Shooter

A man has been taken into custody for the shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO—and the digital footprint he left behind is mind-boggling.

newrepublic.com

 

[MacMadame]

Reading this it sounds like this guy was all over the place politically.

That's not entirely unusual with these sorts of shooters. They are angry and find lots of things to be angry about.

People say they want it, but don't want to pay for it. Which means they don't really want it.

No, that's not what it means. It means people are illogical. Like saying they like the ACA but want Obamacare appealed.

As for not investing in healthcare, what about investing in fossil fuels, fast fashion companies, and many other problematic industries? Not that I think equating having money in a mutual fund as being a stockholder who has actual shares and could do things like vote out a CEO because we can't.

He suffered from chronic back pain according to a roommate. But could ride a bike through Central Park in just a few minutes. I guess e-bikes might be easier to ride.

Speaking as someone who has chronic back pain and was riding an e-bike just this afternoon, they absolutely are.

 

[nlloyd]

On bluesky, there is a pic on his profile of a spinal fusion. That may not mean anything, but it is interesting

Peter Twinklage (@petertwinklage.bsky.social)

the person of interest in the shooting of the United CEO has been ID’d as Luigi Mangione, an Ivy League grad and fan of Breloom, the mushroom Pokémon.

bsky.app

In the comments there is a link to a manifesto that is said to be from the shooter and describes the extreme health issues of his mother and the failures of UHC: https://archive.is/2024.12.09-23065...p/the-allopathic-complex-and-its-consequences

 

[BittyBug]

And, yeah, we probably need to move to PI, but clearly this person has been radicalized by the left with extreme anti-capitalist and climate change messages.

Reading this it sounds like this guy was all over the place politically. So far this seems both tragic and nonsensical:

The Murky Right-Wing Politics of the Alleged UHC Shooter

A man has been taken into custody for the shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO—and the digital footprint he left behind is mind-boggling.

newrepublic.com

From the above:

And he reposted several measages railing against “wokeism.”

 

[Private Citizen]

That good old right-wing politician AOC! I'm sure it was all of her right-wing posting that sent him over the edge! Nice try from the New Republic (extreme left on any media bias scale) to brand him as right-wing, but not fooling anyone.

 

[sk9tingfan]

But why that CEO then, as opposed to the other CEO’s who actually live in NYC (so, more opportunities to, uhm, enact your plans)?

UHG(all entities including UHC) is the largest insurance company in the world.

 

[BlueRidge]

Here we have another lone wolf shooter. Really that is the entire explanation of it. There isn't anything more, just like the guy who tried to assassinate Donald Trump. People try to find something else in these shootings but they are the same general narrative every time, whether an assassination attempt or a mass shooting.

 

[Tesla]

Here we have another lone wolf shooter. Really that is the entire explanation of it. There isn't anything more, just like the guy who tried to assassinate Donald Trump. People try to find something else in these shootings but they are the same general narrative every time, whether an assassination attempt or a mass shooting.

I don't know. If the manifesto linked by @nlloyd is really from the shooter, this was a targeted attack. @Private Citizen Please stop pulling politics into this. Right now, no one cares or knows if he was left, right, up, or down.

 

[BlueRidge]

I don't know. If the manifesto linked by @nlloyd is really from the shooter, this was a targeted attack. @Private Citizen Please stop pulling politics into this. Right now, no one cares or knows if he was left, right, up, or down.

This shooter's thought processes led him to target a health insurance CEO, its still the same type of shooting. He wanted attention and people are certainly elevating his thought processes by trying to parse out the meaning of his "manifesto" and give it rational meaning.

 

[Private Citizen]

Making this story even weirder, the shooter has become a bit of a thirst trap online . The gays love him. (Just for avoidance of doubt, there is no indication that Mangione is LGBTQ+.) Make sure you have a shirtless photo showing off your eight-pack ready to be shared all over worldwide media before you gun down someone!

I have to admit that I am surprised to see a lone wolf killer from such an ultra-wealthy, ultra-privileged background. It's sad that even someone with all of the resources in the world couldn't be helped before getting to this point.

 

[Amy L]

Making this story even weirder, the shooter has become a bit of a thirst trap online . The gays love him. (Just for avoidance of doubt, there is no indication that Mangione is LGBTQ+.) Make sure you have a shirtless photo showing off your eight-pack ready to be shared all over worldwide media before you gun down someone!

It's not just the gays. The word of the day is hybristophilia and because of the internet all of these people have found each other, unfortunately.

 

[BlueRidge]

The word of the day is hybristophilia

one really does learn something new everyday...

 

[On My Own]

Making this story even weirder, the shooter has become a bit of a thirst trap online . The gays love him. (Just for avoidance of doubt, there is no indication that Mangione is LGBTQ+.)

I was expecting it, as sad as that sounds. Criminals going viral for their looks used to happen quite a bit on twitter.