2022 Olympic FS Team Event delayed medal ceremony - updates

[LeafOnTheWind]

There is an awful lot of bullshit covering the ice these days.

 

[coppertop1]

Russia doesn't even want the bronze! What a slap in the face to clean athletes. I also feel bad that the USA and Japan has to to share the podium with a team that broke the rules

 

[kates8]

ISU is so corrupt - Canada was challenging the ISU on their "hidden/made up" rules. Of course ISU won and get to keep Russia "happy" with a medal they won't accept. Ticked off for clean skaters and fair play sports.

 

[Karen-W]

What a joke of a decision. That's some rank BS there. I cannot believe CAS made this decision.

Canada should have made damn sure an amendment was submitted to the ISU rules at the last Congress to explicitly state that a DQ in the TE meant a loss of points and the other teams moved up in the points standings.

 

[Habs]

Total joke. Unreal.

 

[Karen-W]

Not in France. No visas. Unless somehow there’s a deal for that too. Maybe the West threw it in to get their hostages back.

Oh, we still have hostages stuck in Russia. Not that I expect Putin to release any of them for visas for a medal they don't want.

 

[VGThuy]

Well, it seems someone will be very happy. I bet CAS decided to keep their hands off and say the ISU had discretion to interpret how to apply the rules given the confusion regarding whether there was a new rule superseding the former rule that could be read to support the way the ISU decided to reallocate the team competition points. It may be one of those things where the CAS will say even if they had disagreed with the decision, procedurally, the ISU had authority to make the initial ruling that they did.

 

[Badams]

Disgusting. Cowards.

 

[myhoneyhoney]

I think Russia knew before this was announced. Didn’t TT whine that Russia should be in Paris with US and Japan?

 

[BittyBug]

Not in France. No visas. Unless somehow there’s a deal for that too.

It's a misunderstanding that Russians can't get visas - they can and still do, but Schengen visas are no longer issued within Russia so you have to leave Russia to get one. You just go to a country like Serbia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, or others that don't require a visa of Russian nationals to enter, and - voilà.

 

[Rhumba d’Amour]

What a way to take the wind out of the sails of the long-awaited ceremony for the US and Japanese teams.
I think some sort of silent protest on the medal stand is in order. (Evan Bates—are you listening?)

 

[myhoneyhoney]

A bigger statement would be if ALL athletes refuse competing if Russia will be there. But that will never happen, and I understand why.

 

[Karen-W]

Has the IOC issued a statement inviting the Russian athletes to come to Paris also?

 

[honey]

Big loss for supporters of clean sport. Also for those who like basic math.

 

[marbri]

Has the IOC issued a statement inviting the Russian athletes to come to Paris also?

They should just send Russian their bronze medals surface mail.

Leave Paris to the US and Japanese teams who actually won their medals legitimately and deserve a special moment.

Anything else is an even bigger slap in the face to clean athletes who were robbed of two points and 3rd place..

 

[coppertop1]

Big loss for supporters of clean sport. Also for those who like basic math.

I suck at math it still makes no sense. How hard is it to add one point to everyone's score (two for those who competed in the final)

 

[kwanfan1818]

If we wanted a decision in time for the bronze medalists to be able to get to Paris for the ceremony, that’s what we got.

 

[marbri]

I suck at math it sticks makes no sense. How hard is it to add one point to everyone's score (two for those who competed in the final)

Particularly when they managed to figure out the math for the ladies individual results.

The ISU are not serious people and lack integrity. I don't have a history of this type of comment but they really blew it here.

 

[Lanie]

This is absolutely appalling. Russia can and will continue to dope.

 

[coppertop1]

This is absolutely appalling. Russia can and will continue to dope.

And they might be allowed back for 2026 in Milano. Ugh.

 

[PRlady]

TT sulking because they’re not invited to ceremony: https://x.com/fs_gossips/status/1819382800685883538?s=46&t=9ftgyoBTKejM44oWnhroXA

 

[Karen-W]

And they might be allowed back for 2026 in Milano. Ugh.

Not unless Putin ends his insane war.

Not one single winter sports federation has allowed any Russian or Belarusian athletes back to compete yet and I don't see that changing until there is peace in Ukraine.

 

[marbri]

And they might be allowed back for 2026 in Milano. Ugh.

I suppose the silver lining is Russia learned something from this scandal.
So in 2026 when they want that gold back so they can just put two Eteri girls in as backup in case they miscalculate the formula again

Trying to figure out how we can apply this precedent to relay swimming teams for countries that could use an extra stronger swimmer. Cos then we could subtract the doped athlete from their overall time in the final and maybe move up to gold with a WR setting time!!!

 

[TAHbKA]

Am relieved Sadovski's skate was not awarded a medal.

 

[Vagabond]

TT sulking because they’re not invited to ceremony: https://x.com/fs_gossips/status/1819382800685883538?s=46&t=9ftgyoBTKejM44oWnhroXA

would benefit from taking up meditation and yoga.

 

[Habs]

Am relieved Sadovski's skate was not awarded a medal.

 

[Rukia]

Well, it seems someone will be very happy. I bet CAS decided to keep their hands off and say the ISU had discretion to interpret how to apply the rules given the confusion regarding whether there was a new rule superseding the former rule that could be read to support the way the ISU decided to reallocate the team competition points. It may be one of those things where the CAS will say even if they had disagreed with the decision, procedurally, the ISU had authority to make the initial ruling that they did.

This is my suspicion as well. As usual I'll put most of the blame on the ISU because they are a terrible org.

 

[coppertop1]

TT sulking because they’re not invited to ceremony: https://x.com/fs_gossips/status/1819382800685883538?s=46&t=9ftgyoBThi plTKejM44oWnhroXA

They're so ungrateful. They get so much favouritism and it's never enough. They're always the victim.

And Roman being on the podium would be bad? Yes, better a country repeatedly breaks the rules gets to have it's cake and eat it, too, than a country where one athlete who was a deer in headlights, but who competed clean, gets its due.

 

[On My Own]

Am relieved Sadovski's skate was not awarded a medal.

You, me, and Andrey can form a support group, but let's let them have this thread for now

 

[her grace]

The only part of the ISU’s reasoning that is logical is they don’t want ordinal flipping such that when you remove one athlete’s results and reallocate points, then a previous non-doping medalist team gets knocked off the podium. But the obvious fix to that is to DQ the entire doping team from the final results.

This result shows you can dope, get caught, and still medal. What a mockery of clean sport.