2023-2024 Rhythm dance

[PRlady]

We've got our second (I think?) Bon Jovi, courtesy of Janse van Rensburg/Steffan.

https://twitter.com/goldenskate/status/1664620571093528576

All I demand for this team are better costumes. Last year’s were wretched.

 

[Spikefan]

All I demand for this team are better costumes. Last year’s were wretched.

Doubtful with a “Wild West” themed FD.

 

[Karen-W]

Doubtful with a “Wild West” themed FD.

This is Janse van Rensburg/Steffan we're talking about and their wretched costumes this year gives me little hope next season will be any better.

 

[Orm Irian]

We've got our second (I think?) Bon Jovi, courtesy of Janse van Rensburg/Steffan.

https://twitter.com/goldenskate/status/1664620571093528576

...do they know what "Beds Are Burning" is about and if not is anyone prepared to explain it to them?

 

[tennellicious]

I appreciate the optimistic music ideas here, but real talk-- you guys know we're going to end up with a plethora of Michael Jackson, Madonna, and Prince programs, right?

 

[Rukia]

I appreciate the optimistic music ideas here, but real talk-- you guys know we're going to end up with a plethora of Michael Jackson, Madonna, and Prince programs, right?

Yes we know but that's not going to stop us from coming up with better ideas

 

[Aussie Willy]

...do they know what "Beds Are Burning" is about and if not is anyone prepared to explain it to them?

Hmmm yep. Do they know who Midnight Oil are and what they were about?

Saw them twice back in the 80s. Fantastic band.

 

[Wyliefan]

The other day Flores/Desyatov posted a reel of them skating to Smooth Operator (a TikTok remix). They didn't confirm it was their RD music, so I won't put it in the official thread just yet. The language was actually a little confusing -- Bella posted that it was a sneak peek at their RD but then added "Comment if you want an RD reveal," so I'm not sure exactly what she was getting at!

 

[TanithandBenFan]

The other day Flores/Desyatov posted a reel of them skating to Smooth Operator (a TikTok remix). They didn't confirm it was their RD music, so I won't put it in the official thread just yet. The language was actually a little confusing -- Bella posted that it was a sneak peek at their RD but then added "Comment if you want an RD reveal," so I'm not sure exactly what she was getting at!

She’s been posting lots of clips with various 80s songs that isn’t their music. I hope they post their real music soon! I’m also glad they’re not skating to “I Love Rock and Roll” which she said they considered. I haatttte that song.

 

[Aussie Willy]

The other day Flores/Desyatov posted a reel of them skating to Smooth Operator (a TikTok remix). They didn't confirm it was their RD music, so I won't put it in the official thread just yet. The language was actually a little confusing -- Bella posted that it was a sneak peek at their RD but then added "Comment if you want an RD reveal," so I'm not sure exactly what she was getting at!

There is a version of Smooth Operator being used by lots of creators to increase their chances of views.

 

[tennellicious]

that Smooth Operator tiktok remix is everywhere and soooo basic. I'd rather get yet another MJ program...that's how bad it is.

 

[Aussie Willy]

that Smooth Operator tiktok remix is everywhere and soooo basic. I'd rather get yet another MJ program...that's how bad it is.

That remix is pretty bad.

 

[litenkyckling]

I actually would quite like to see a Sade RD (not the remix though - not that I hate it, it’s a bit of fun for people)

 

[TanithandBenFan]

I actually would quite like to see a Sade RD (not the remix though - not that I hate it, it’s a bit of fun for people)

C/B had a Sade RD in 2022 before they got to Champs Camp and then they changed to Billie Eilish. We never found out which music cuts they used.

 

[VGThuy]

I appreciate the optimistic music ideas here, but real talk-- you guys know we're going to end up with a plethora of Michael Jackson, Madonna, and Prince programs, right?

Real talk, no matter what these skaters choose, more than half the PBP threads will complain about the music and make suggestions as if their music choices wouldn't get the same reception.

 

[SidelineSkater]

Real talk, no matter what these skaters choose, more than half the PBP threads will complain about the music and make suggestions as if their music choices wouldn't get the same reception.

This x100000000%.

Every year it's the same - no warhorses - gives us new, fresh music choices.

Skaters - Ok - here's a non-warhorse piece.

FSU PBP - Barf. That non-warhorse program is awful.

 

[Rukia]

Y'all have convinced me to only say nice things about every rd music choice all season. Already googling "best online thesaurus" to commit to this bit.

 

[VGThuy]

I don't mind people complaining about music, and I definitely do it too. I think it just becomes a lot when the whole thread becomes that, but that's okay. I rather read and encourage those posts than stifle anybody's speech. I just wish people who complain about music and then make their own suggestions as to what skaters should skate to instead were more aware that their personal tastes in music aren't universal and shouldn't pretend that it is.

And this is NOT a dig to any one poster in particular, and I am very guilty of behaving this way too. I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[tennellicious]

Real talk, no matter what these skaters choose, more than half the PBP threads will complain about the music and make suggestions as if their music choices wouldn't get the same reception.

tbh that sounds more like a pbp thread problem than a me problem

 

[Willin]

Real talk, no matter what these skaters choose, more than half the PBP threads will complain about the music and make suggestions as if their music choices wouldn't get the same reception.

And I think it will be justified.

The '80s had so, so much glorious cheesiness and genuinely great music that these skaters are straight up ignoring. I'd love to see programs to Cyndi Lauper (seriously how have I not heard of a program to her music yet?), Blondie, any of the hairmetal one hit wonders, Depeche Mode, Run DMC, later Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks solo, David Bowie or Duran Duran. And yet despite all that great music we're just going to get a boring mix of the top 3-5 artists of the decade... Hopefully someone at least has the sense to do a Queen program.

And the cheese fests that could come out of programs to Right Round, Take on Me, Never Gonna Give You Up, I'm Gonna Be, etc. would be downright legendary!

It always seems like ice dancers are given an exciting theme - hip hop, musical theatre, etc and find the single most boring way to do it. Every time. Well, the single most boring or dumb way (looking at you Rhumba Bowie).

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I am not remotely concerned that Queen will be left out.

 

[gkelly]

Cyndi Lauper (seriously how have I not heard of a program to her music yet?),

You must not have been watching the little kids skating Showcase programs to Girls Just Wanna Have Fun.

 

[Nmsis]

Ice dancers might be more daring if

• judges didn't mingle in music choices (and consider themselves as musical authorities ; this is not what scores should be about)
• ice dance wasn't so obsessed with imitating what has worked or been done / judges were rewarding novelty

Right now, most teams vie for the lowest common denominator programs.

 

[Rukia]

You must not have been watching the little kids skating Showcase programs to Girls Just Wanna Have Fun.

so so many times

 

[kwanfan1818]

I can't watch the Great British Sewing Bee from here, but there's former art-teacher-turned-yarn-dyer-and-patch-worker named Stuart who runs a haberdashery shop and who, with his friend, a current teacher named Ting, does a post-game show every week. (He also does a separate show with a master tailor and coutourier who goes deeper into the design and construction methods required to meet the challenges and shows how to do them. His YouTube channel is Woolpatch.)

As former and current teachers, they are especially cranky at the vagueness of many of the briefs, which they consider ungradeable by any fair standard, and they often criticize the judges for their prejudices and narrowness that allows them to dismiss valid responses to the brief for some contestants and ignore the requirements for others, making a link between the two problems they see.

Episode 5 was "inspired by", and the made-to-measure challemge was "inspired by Surrealism" (or surrealism, which wasn't clear.)/ One of them commented that it was so broad -- and, of course, done under time pressure -- that the contestants defaulted to the most famous image of Surrealism, the eye.

So I immediately thought of almost every discussion we've had about music choices and.limitations of the judges.

 

[skatfan]

I'd love to see programs to…David Bowie

Chock and Bates just did a Bowie RD, didn’t they?

 

[Willin]

@skatfan Yeah, but Bowie Bowie, not whatever the heck that awful remix was.

 

[AYS]

@skatfan Yeah, but Bowie Bowie, not whatever the heck that awful remix was.

C/B also had a FD to Under Pressure a number of years ago, which I loved, but of course many people here complained.

 

[Wyliefan]

C/B also had a FD to Under Pressure a number of years ago, which I loved, but of course many people here complained.

I was a fan too. Can't say it's one of my favorite songs, but I thought it was a really good program for them.

 

[NinjaTurtles]

C/B also had a FD to Under Pressure a number of years ago, which I loved, but of course many people here complained.

The backpack lift moment with the music in that FD was