The Heir, The Spare and the “Baby Brain” -The Prince Harry and Meghan show rumbles on…

[Winnipeg]

BTW, the writing of the book Spare was ok but the content was just boring to me. He just has not done that much to make it very interesting.

 

[MacMadame]

In addition, the line between freedom of speech and censorship is very thin. For example, I also don't like cartoons from Charlie Hebdo. Their cartoon based on Harry's book, in my opinion, was disgusting. But do I think this should be banned? I do not know, but I suspect that this is a sure path to censorship

Not inviting someone to a luncheon is not even close to banning something let alone censorship.

As an aside, if Harry and William do not like the constant pap attention, why would they be jealous when the paps pay too much attention to the other couple? In other words, if more attention is on Harry and Meagan, one would think that William and Kate would like the break??

They all say they do not like the attention but yet they do not like the opposite either (seemingly).

I don't think it's the attention from the paps that they are jealous over. It's the more legitimate attention. Like being invited onto talk shows to talk about your pet projects, having those projects promoted by the press, being invited to special events, etc.

 

[Jot the Dot Dot]

The only royal title he deserves is Drama Queen!

 

[taf2002]

I'm only a few chapters in but I put down Spare a week ago & not sure I will go back & finish it. Maybe I should skip to the end to find out how it turns out.

 

[Winnipeg]

I found it a very boring read and stopped reading midway through.

 

[4rkidz]

Same with Cressida Bonas, to be honest. But, also, both of them had the sense to walk away from the hot mess that Harry clearly always has been.

Have you read his book? According to his memoirs they walked away because of the constant hassle from the British media. They didn't want the attention that came with being royal as reported numerous times with direct quotes from them. Basically what the whole book is about is focused primarily at the tabloid BS that is the British media.

 

[4rkidz]

It doesn't attack her legacy, though.

It's clear Harry loved his grandparents very much. He loved his mother. He loves his father, who comes across as mostly well-meaning, if maybe a bit bumbling. IMHO, the person who doesn't come out of this looking good is William.
But honestly, this is not the nasty book full of salacious gossip and hate that people seem to want to believe it is.

I find it interesting that for those of us who read the book it’s actually not nasty against the Royals really at all but more a reflection on his own emotions and the brutality of the British tabloid media.
I also think it was very clever of the same British media to manipulate some of the stories out of context, like when he is being obviously sarcastic at some aspects but is reported verbatim by the media.
That’s why I won’t even discuss it with people unless they read it in its entirety and opposed to the snippets from the same media that the book is basically about.

 

[MsZem]

Same with Cressida Bonas, to be honest. But, also, both of them had the sense to walk away from the hot mess that Harry clearly always has been.

Have you read his book? According to his memoirs they walked away because of the constant hassle from the British media. They didn't want the attention that came with being royal as reported numerous times with direct quotes from them. Basically what the whole book is about is focused primarily at the tabloid BS that is the British media.

I am not Cressida Bonas or Chelsy Davy, so can't speak as to why they ended their relationship with Harry. But I'm not sure Harry's book is a 100% credible source on this matter, either.

 

[airgelaal]

That's what real popularity is

full episode here

South Park - The Worldwide Privacy Tour | South Park Studios US

The prince of Canada and his wife try to find privacy and seclusion in a small mountain town.

www.southparkstudios.com

 

[MacMadame]

I am not Cressida Bonas or Chelsy Davy, so can't speak as to why they ended their relationship with Harry. But I'm not sure Harry's book is a 100% credible source on this matter, either.

Did you miss this?

Have you read his book? According to his memoirs they walked away because of the constant hassle from the British media. They didn't want the attention that came with being royal as reported numerous times with direct quotes from them. Basically what the whole book is about is focused primarily at the tabloid BS that is the British media.

This isn't just Harry's opinion but the opinion of the women involved. They said they noped out on Harry because of the attention of the press.

Disregarding their own opinions on their own decisions seems pretty disempowering of them.

 

[Winnipeg]

I certainly had the clear impression they left because they did not like the press and did not want to spend the rest of their lives in the public eye. Can't say I blame them.

 

[kwanfan1818]

They never claimed to want to be out of the public eye: they had always planned to be high visibility in their foundation and media efforts. They didn't want to be subject to British tabloids or subject to whatever games the palace was playing with regards to what they chose to leak and what they chose to withhold.

 

[Husky]

This SouthPark episode is more intelligent than funny. Haven't seen it in a long time and didn't even know that it's still running. Did they ever had a break?

 

[Husky]

P.S. The blue penis was kind of cute. ?

 

[Husky]

Frogmore is now Andrew's new domicile (wonder if he likes Ikea furniture or prefers old-fashioned royal style? ) because King Charles supposedly evicted H&M one day after The Spare was released. And the couple is upset about it, at least this is what dailyfail reports.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11807171/Harry-Meghan-stunned-evicted-Frogmore-Cottage.html

"In a question about the afterlife, Harry said he believes that humans are reincarnated as animals when they die and he wants to be an elephant."

There might be people who say that he already achieved this goal.

 

[Lemonade20]

As much as I'm laughing at this, I don't know if it's really true. It would make sense to downsize Andrew into a smaller royal residence as it's just him and his ex wife. I do believe the family is upset with H&M.

 

[Husky]

Looks like this part is true:

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been asked to vacate their British base of Frogmore Cottage, the couple's spokesperson has confirmed.

Frogmore Cottage: Harry and Meghan 'requested to vacate' property

It was earlier reported that the home, in Windsor, had been offered to Prince Andrew.

www.bbc.com

 

[clairecloutier]

It's so BRF to evict Meghan and Harry from a home only to offer it to ... Prince Andrew.

For a group that's supposedly obsessed with their press coverage, it's amazing how little awareness they have of "optics," as they say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/01/frogmore-cottage-harry-meghan-andrew/

 

[Spikefan]

It's so BRF to evict Meghan and Harry from a home only to offer it to ... Prince Andrew.

For a group that's supposedly obsessed with their press coverage, it's amazing how little awareness they have of "optics," as they say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/01/frogmore-cottage-harry-meghan-andrew/

I guess better to be a sexual abuser of underage women than spill secrets. Tells me all I need to know about the BRF.

 

[airgelaal]

It's so BRF to evict Meghan and Harry from a home only to offer it to ... Prince Andrew.

For a group that's supposedly obsessed with their press coverage, it's amazing how little awareness they have of "optics," as they say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/01/frogmore-cottage-harry-meghan-andrew/

Did they plan to live there? Or better let no one live there?

 

[Barbara Manatee]

I guess better to be a sexual abuser of underage women than spill secrets.

It's a huge downgrade for Andrew, though. This is a rebuke, not a reward.

 

[airgelaal]

It's a huge downgrade for Andrew, though. This is a rebuke, not a reward.

That's right. But @clairecloutier and @Spikefan wrote the opposite.

 

[clairecloutier]

That's right. But @clairecloutier and @Spikefan wrote the opposite.

I don’t care whether it’s a downgrade for Andrew or not.

What I was referring to is the fact that the BRF prefers to give this residence to someone credibly accused in court of sexually assaulting a minor rather than let it be used by Harry, whose sin is telling some unpleasant tales of family relationships. (And who also, I believe, personally paid for major renovation of the place by fully refunding all money spent on it.)

 

[just tuned in]

The book was scathing towards Charles. I can see why Charles would kick Harry out of the house.

 

[marbri]

I mean they don't live in the UK anymore and I imagine there are other places they can stay if/when they do show up for visits ?‍ . Maybe the huge mansion Charles is trying to drag a kicking and screaming Andrew out of, sounds like it's more in line with their Montecito home anyway.

But kudos to their PR team, well played

 

[becca]

I don’t care whether it’s a downgrade for Andrew or not.

What I was referring to is the fact that the BRF prefers to give this residence to someone credibly accused in court of sexually assaulting a minor rather than let it be used by Harry, whose sin is telling some unpleasant tales of family relationships. (And who also, I believe, personally paid for major renovation of the place by fully refunding all money spent on it.)

Andrew needs to live somewhere and they may have plans for Andrew’s larger house.

Harry and Meghan don’t live there and that house which they don’t live could be used for someone else

They had the state pay for renovations with understanding they would be working royals and hoped out

 

[Lemonade20]

Andrew is repulsive but he never trashed his family the way Harry & Meghan has. I don't care who gets the cottage, but my understanding is it is super close to the heirs (#1-#4) so security is a huge concern.

 

[Karen-W]

The part about Andrew being moved is only speculation at this point.

As it is, what we do know is that the Crown Estates (not Charles himself) have asked the Sussexes to vacate Frogmore Cottage by the summer. There could be any number of reasons for this, but it isn't as though the Sussexes have any intention of using the property for more than a few weeks of the year.

I know most people here are generally sympathetic to the Sussexes, but it's an incredibly bad look for the Crown Estates and the BRF in general, for the Sussexes to be allowed to have that home they're rarely in when so many everyday, regular British citizens are struggling with housing and energy costs. It's an unnecessary excess. If the Sussexes wish to retain some sort of domicile in the UK, it would be a lot easier to set them up in a smaller apartment at Windsor Castle than for them to keep Frogmore Cottage.

 

[Coco]

Weren't Eugenie and her husband renting Frogmore?

 

[taf2002]

Everyone is ignoring the fact that Frogmore Cottage was a wedding gift to H&M from QE2 not to mention they paid over 2 million pounds for the renovation. No one here seems to have a problem with PRlady for having apartments in 2 countries that stay empty 1/2 the time but for some reason they are outraged that H&M don't use Frogmore often. I don't know the British people who are hurting financially or how the housing shortage will be improved by Andrew having rights to Frogmore instead of Harry. Charles could move Andrew into one of the existing suites at any number of castles.

How often H&M uses Frogmore is no one's business. And it's absolutely saying "we invited you to the coronation but we really don't want you to come." Charles is treating his brother (whom he has been furious with for the sex thing) much better than his own son because Harry didn't toe the company line. I would not be surprised to find that this is Camilla's idea. Just more of her manipulations.