That is what happens when you cheat to win. You become infamous and are shunned by anyone decent. Her family is garbage and so is she. They should have told the truth during the investigation, not cashed in. Maybe she will move to the states and when she is 60 take part in DWTS and come last.
Your empathy for a 16-year-old is heartwarming.
My empathy for the said 16 yr. old ended when the lying and ridiculous stories came out under investigation. And her fake medal presentation and her great fun in shows ever since really wiped it out. I don't know if you remember being a 16 yr. old girl but I really do..as well as twelve, thirteen, fourteen and fifteen. I certainly knew right from wrong and the consequences that could happen.
I don't know anything about being a 16 year old girl living in today's Russia and can only imagine the "consequences that could happen" had Valieva elected to refuse all the public accolades and opportunties that were showered on her post-Olympics.
I’m tired of reading posts like this from the saints of FSU who always do right in 100% of the situations yet somehow have missed the understanding that not everyone is the same.
No. Did you page back far enough to see Brennan's latest article? https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...y-for-team-medals.109402/page-49#post-6296770
What happened in Beijing was a huge black mark on this sport. I think the fact image of Valieva breaking down and then being berated by her coach and Trusova's having a breakdown while Shchberkova sat there looking lost and alone is an image that will stick with us for a long time. Valieva could have been great but it was all taken from her. It must have been incredibly frustrating and disheartening for the other women. She Russia is still insisting they did nothing wrong. They need to be banned permanently. No more chances. Enough is enough.
It did indeed. I can only look back in horror to the last Olympics.
What is missing for me in these kinds of sentences(not only from you but from a lot of people) is the understanding that maybe she would not have been great, if she had not been doped.
Fair point. We will never know either way. Especially as we don't know how long this was going on for.
Two prime examples of skaters who have suffered because of the pressure to chase the Russians for me are: Rika Kihira and Bradie Tennell. They missed an entire season because of injuries. Rika was trying to do quads and I think Bradie was practicing triple Axels. They both missed the Olympics. Rika is still struggling with her injuries.
They probably lied and promised to protect her etc. I doubt they were honest. We saw with Nassar how easy it is to manipulate young athletes.
Agreed. She is a symptom not the problem. State-sponsored doping is rampant in Russia and abusive coaches are an issue in sport everywhere. Eteri isn't the only one. Things need to change because figure skating is in trouble.
Rules should now be made that if any Team has a skater caught doping that all skaters in the club are suspended. Pls don't tell me that the coaches don't know or are not actively complicit in this. At least someone is bound to tell that way....(but I hope they don't have balconies at home)
So you would be okay with Knierim/Frazier being banned when Calalang/Johnson were?
what are the details? What did they do? were they at the same club?
Exactly. Or the entire Spanish team. Some people are holding the Russians to a much higher standard than the rest of the skating community. Nobody suggested all US athletes be banned when the track and field members were caught doping. And, to my knowledge, only Valieva tested positive for a banned substance, not the entire Russian contingent.
The details are that Calalang tested positive but wasn't doping and was able to both clear her name and cause WADA to make changes in how they test so another person wouldn't have to go through what she did.
some people remember that there is state sponsored doping in Russia and that Valieva is by far not the first to be caught with an illegal drug in her system and that there are countless interviews with Russian coaches saying that doping is necessary or that they need an alternative to a certain drug if something is banned and that the evil west is using this as a move against them instead of seeing a widespread declaration that using doping, especially in children, is not the way to go.
Doping is rampant in all elite-level sport in Russia AND the West, to say that doping is a 'Russian' thing is very naive.
Russia has a state-sponsored doping program.
To ignore the fact that the poster was explicitly referring to Russia's state-sponsored doping program, which is the only one of its kind and scale within common knowledge, is very disingenuous.
So it's better that US athletes just dope in their gyms. There are a lot of performance enhancing drugs being used in the United States. You only have to look at fitness competitions and bodybuilding (and Instagram) to see how readily available they are.
Strawman argument.
