RIP HM Queen Elizabeth II

Louis said:
We'll probably never know (and honestly it's none of our business), but I'll always be curious about what happened between Tuesday and Thursday that resulted in such a sharp decline but did not require hospitalization. I suspect she either died suddenly and the earlier statement was just to give us all time to prepare, or else she had a terminal illness that they were managing quietly.
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"not require hospitalization"
Maybe she wanted to die peacefully and at home and she refused hospitalization when in a critically condition? My father had made a patient's provision, in case he wasn't able to make his own decisions anymore. I could imagine that the Queen was the kind of person who wanted to have full control over this last chapter in her life. Today's medicine can keep you alive for a long time, even when you're in coma with few hope that you gain back consciousness. Imagine what this means in the Queen's case? Instability of the monarchy.
 
MsZem said:
Well, he certainly enjoyed it.
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Lol yeah he definetly had his indulgences but he was popular with the people and well convinced them they would want to keep a King around although not a Catholic one. I fully suspect the poster was thinking of his dad.

Considering his Dad got executed and overthrown and his brother got overthrown. I think Charles II did extremely well in comparison.
 
Husky said:
"not require hospitalization"
Maybe she wanted to die peacefully and at home and she refused hospitalization when in a critically condition? My father had made a patient's provision, in case he wasn't able to make his own decisions anymore. I could imagine that the Queen was the kind of person who wanted to have full control over this last chapter in her life. Today's medicine can keep you alive for a long time, even when you're in coma with few hope that you gain back consciousness. Imagine what this means in the Queen's case? Instability of the monarchy.
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Yeah she was 96 years old. I hope she didn’t have a long drawn out illness that is actually a kindness for her. And why put her in the hospital and just let her enjoy the moments with her family and not drag her through all kinds of medical interventions
 
Drove an ambulance during WW2! I will be interested to see retrospectives of her life/reign. So much change occurred in Britain during her life.
 
Interestingly, William and Kate’s Instagram (and I presume other online presences) has already been updated to refer to them as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Cornwall. I understand the title Duke of Cornwall does automatically go to the heir (unlike the Prince of Wales title). Camilla, of course, was using Duchess of Cornwall as her title (instead of Princess of Wales) up until today. I know their kids use Cambridge as an informal surname (at school, etc.), I wonder if that will change? I don’t know why, but I find these details and logistics of titles and etiquette endlessly fascinating.
 
SHARPIE said:
Bit of a problem for Charles III if he is visiting Ireland.

I wonder if Putin will send condolences.

sorry to sound flippant just finding this all a bit hard to process!
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And no wonder—she was constant—like the North Star. You may not look at the sky every night but you knew it was there. She was Queen when I was born—there has never not been a Queen Elizabeth in my life until today. That is disconcerting.
 
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becca said:
Lol yeah he definetly had his indulgences but he was popular with the people and well convinced them they would want to keep a King around although not a Catholic one. I fully suspect the poster was thinking of his dad.

Considering his Dad got executed and overthrown and his brother got overthrown. I think Charles II did extremely well in comparison.
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Oh right, and his brother, James II of England/VII of Scotland took over afterwards, which is when the Catholic question was finally "decided", leading to him being usurped by his protestant daughter and son-in-law, Mary II and William of Orange, who then ruled by invitation of Parliament. Then they died childless and Mary II's sister Anne took over, who had her own issues with delivering an heir...and blah blah blah...no more Stuart line. Bring on the Hanoverians and the Jacobites!
 
MLIS said:
Interestingly, William and Kate’s Instagram (and I presume other online presences) has already been updated to refer to them as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Cornwall. I understand the title Duke of Cornwall does automatically go to the heir (unlike the Prince of Wales title). Camilla, of course, was using Duchess of Cornwall as her title (instead of Princess of Wales) up until today. I know their kids use Cambridge as an informal surname (at school, etc.), I wonder if that will change? I don’t know why, but I find these details and logistics of titles and etiquette endlessly fascinating.
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Those are the tiles I just heard from Canadian media for William and Kate.
 
VGThuy said:
Oh right, and his brother, James II of England/VII of Scotland took over afterwards, which is when the Catholic question was finally "decided", leading to him being usurped by his protestant daughter and son-in-law, Mary II and William of Orange, who then ruled by invitation of Parliament. Then they died childless and Mary II's sister Anne took over, who had her own issues with delivering an heir...and blah blah blah...no more Stuart line. Bring on the Hanoverians and the Jacobites!
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For whom my college Alma Mater is named. :)
 
My Twitter feed has many folks from ex-colonies not expressing so much goodwill. Just a reminder that even if decolonisation happened before her reign or without her say-so, there’s still a lot of resentment of Brit imperialism out there.

I always thought she was a good sport to come for our BiCentennial.
 
PRlady said:
My Twitter feed has many folks from ex-colonies not expressing so much goodwill. Just a reminder that even if decolonisation happened before her reign or without her say-so, there’s still a lot of resentment of Brit imperialism out there.

I always thought she was a good sport to come for our BiCentennial.
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Yeah, I have colleagues from India and their sentiments differ greatly from the condolences I’m reading elsewhere. It does serve as a reminder.
 
I just logged into my iPad and saw the Twitter headline. This is shocking and sad. I didn't know she had health problems. I thought she could reach 100. She was young when she became Queen. She served her people for many decades. She lived a good life. R.I.P. Queen Elizabeth II.

My condolences to all the British people.
 
VGThuy said:
Oh right, and his brother, James II of England/VII of Scotland took over afterwards, which is when the Catholic question was finally "decided", leading to him being usurped by his protestant daughter and son-in-law, Mary II and William of Orange, who then ruled by invitation of Parliament. Then they died childless and Mary II's sister Anne took over, who had her own issues with delivering an heir...and blah blah blah...no more Stuart line. Bring on the Hanoverians and the Jacobites!
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Yep! I definitely would agree that Charles II wasn’t conscientious like Queen Elizabeth. But probably after the craziness of Charles I, then Cromwell years fun Merry king is probably why he and the monarchy lasted.

Queen Elizabeth was certainly born to privilege but she certainly did her best to serve her people unlike a lot of people born in her station
 
Oh and about British History, I always wondered where I could find a brief summary of what happened before the Normans. And then I gave up, because it just wasn't interesting enough, apart from Aethelred the Unready, because the name made me lmao.
 
Dai's Blues for Klook said:
Oh and about British History, I always wondered where I could find a brief summary of what happened before the Anglo-Normans. And then I gave up, because it just wasn't interesting enough, apart from Aethelred the Unready, because the name made me lmao.
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I tried watching that show Britannia, a show set when the Romans first landed on the British isles and having to deal with the original inhabitants and their tribes, but it was too fantastical for me with all the magic and stuff.

I surprisingly started learning more about the Norman period thanks to Property Law classes where I learned so much about how American property law (and law in general) and the way our procedure works came from the Norman court systems (plaintiff and defendant are French words after all!) and the pre-existing chancery systems. The court of law vs. the court of equity - in so many of the thirteen colonies, anything to do with property disputes tends to be in the state superior courts - chancery division as opposed to the law divisions or whatever those states call it. Well, except New York. New York is just different. (Oh, and Maryland as well!)
 
This is such sad news, if not unexpected. I'm watching coverage on CBC and am loving hearing the stories about her wit and sense of humour. The Paddington clip is my absolute favourite and they keep showing it. It's so lovely.
My condolences to her family, the people of Britain, and the Commonwealth.
 
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I walked the two miles over to Buckingham Palace in the pouring rain. I was shocked that people could still go right up to the gates, but there was a long and disorderly queue to get close to the posted sign. All of the umbrellas were making things a bit claustrophobic and dangerous. Seeing the sign wasn’t worth my eyesight. People spontaneously broke out into “ God Save the Queen,” and after that I left.

The mood is not as much somber as it is surreal. I wanted to see the sign to believe it was real. The crowd was extremely diverse: people of all ages and colours, and speaking many languages. BBC described this as a seismic moment, and it really feels that way. I will certainly say that I’ve felt like I’ve lived in interesting times during my seven years in this country.
 
I assume Dr. Biden and POTUS will attend the funeral along with many other heads of state, but the security logistics are going to be mindboggling. This is the new world and one very different than her father's funeral and her later coronation.

As an American, I have no say, but I would hate for the British monarchy to dissolve. One thousand years of history should continue.
 
The day the pics of her and the new British PM were broadcast, I wondered if she would last the year without Philip. So often for people who have been married that long, the survivor doesn't last more than a year. Little did I know.

RIP Queen Elizabeth. You did so very well with all the challenges you encountered in your life. My condolences to her family, friends, and the people of the British Isles.
 
I think the writing was on the wall when Philip died. He had been the love of her life since she was a teenager. I think whatever happened was somewhat unexpected. I gather Princes William, Andrew, Edward and his wife Sophie all travelled together in a rush to Scotland so I assume her condition changed suddenly and, of course, I am sure the care stipulations were what we would call comfort care only.
 
ilovepaydays said:
I’m also curious about what will happen to her precious corgis. Will they just get to roam at a random castle?
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I would expect that the same person who looked after them would continue to do so. I don’t expect that at her age the Queen was picking up dog sh*t and washing the dog bowls, or even feeding the dogs regularly. Someone would do that for her. The same way as she wouldn’t do her laundry, her cooking, and dusting and hoovering…
 
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