The Dance Hall 9: Bring the Bling or No Beijing 2021-2022

[Judy]

Me too....but I have a disease which was treated with high doses of prednisone & another drug. Prednisone worked great but was slowly being reduced to be completely replaced by another drug with hardly any side effects.......until it poisoned me. And then Osteoporosis jumped in there which has now produced compression fractures. Should be interesting to see what they will decide to do when I have my next appointment.

I hope you’ll be ok!

 

[Andrea82]

Will the tech panel be the same for 4CC and Euros?

They should have a new one for next week.

 

[litenkyckling]

Kazakova/Reviya are out of Europeans.

Callers in Tallin (Euros) are Leanna Caron, Kristin Fraser and Taehwa Yang. Rettstatt is the Referee.

I hope this is a cautious-for-the-Olympics Georgia

 

[Karen-W]

Kazakova/Reviya are out of Europeans.

Callers in Tallin (Euros) are Leanna Caron, Kristin Fraser and Taehwa Yang. Rettstatt is the Referee.

I hope this is a cautious-for-the-Olympics Georgia

Yeah, this concerns me for the Olympics. Georgia doesn't have another dance team so they need K/R for the RD in the TE, at minimum. But, once they compete in that, there simply won't be enough time for the 1st alternates in ID to get to Beijing to compete in the individual event should K/R withdraw from it as well.

 

[Cherub721]

If K&R don't compete in the TE, does Georgia get zero points in the RD or 1 point as if they'd finished last? That could be important in the LP. Say Schizas withdraws and can't be replaced, if they are scored like they'd finished last they'd still get 6 points.

 

[Karen-W]

If K&R don't compete in the TE, does Georgia get zero points in the RD or 1 point as if they'd finished last? That could be important in the LP. Say Schizas withdraws and can't be replaced, if they are scored like they'd finished last they'd still get 6 points.

Not sure, but I haven't read the TE document that thoroughly so it might be in there.

 

[Dobre]

I hope this is a cautious-for-the-Olympics Georgia

Well, it wouldn't be unwise; but this has been the pattern for their last two events. Signed up and then withdrawn due to injury.

If K&R don't compete in the TE, does Georgia get zero points in the RD or 1 point as if they'd finished last? That could be important in the LP. Say Schizas withdraws and can't be replaced, if they are scored like they'd finished last they'd still get 6 points.

It could happen to any team, considering the number of positive tests we are seeing right now.

 

[Andrea82]

Turkkila/ Versluis can't get a break. They are out of Europeans. Turkilla got Covid at the end of December. PCR tests still shows her positive.
They are back at training though.

 

[litenkyckling]

Turkkila/ Versluis can't get a break. They are out of Europeans. Turkilla got ********* at the end of December. PCR tests still shows her positive.
They are back at training though.

obviously don't know when she was infected but this makes me so nervous for all the teams at Euros this week and all the NA teams - especially ones who were in Nashville ?

 

[bcash]

S/K looked pretty sharp in their Europeans RD. But did he check his balance at two places? Or was it just his usual, slightly "wild" movement quality that created that impression? 1 point seems a smaller than usual margin separating them from S/B.

 

[shuilee]

Rus Fed setting up for StepBukin for bronze in Olympics, and possibly gold at Worlds? They're good backup plan in case SinKats is injured or has twizzle disaster.

Suddenly they're scoring mid-86 in the RD, which is higher than the 3 North American teams in the GP. Maybe it's now a 4-team race for the individual bronze medal in Olympics.

And if P&C/S&K skip Worlds, suddenly Russia has a gold medal contender. How clever.

 

[Miloune]

Rus Fed setting up for StepBukin for bronze in Olympics, and possibly gold at Worlds? They're good backup plan in case SinKats is injured or has twizzle disaster.

Suddenly they're scoring mid-86 in the RD, which is higher than the 3 North American teams in the GP. Maybe it's now a 4-team race for the individual bronze medal in Olympics.

And if P&C/S&K skip Worlds, suddenly Russia has a gold medal contender. How clever.

P/C will be at worlds if all goes well. It's in France and Romain stated it was their goal n°2 after the Olympics.

 

[her grace]

S/B’s RD is stronger than their FD. They do a good job with this rhythm.

 

[love_skate2011]

Rus Fed setting up for StepBukin for bronze in Olympics, and possibly gold at Worlds? They're good backup plan in case SinKats is injured or has twizzle disaster.

Suddenly they're scoring mid-86 in the RD, which is higher than the 3 North American teams in the GP. Maybe it's now a 4-team race for the individual bronze medal in Olympics.

And if P&C/S&K skip Worlds, suddenly Russia has a gold medal contender. How clever.

StepBuk were really fast compared to their previous skates, aren't Svinin/Zhuk making a trio collab with Morozov and Gorshkov ?

 

[love_skate2011]

Diana Davis looked like she was expecting higher score from their RD, well I guess No Team event for them like the conspiracies here. I wonder how Igor and Eteri will deal with Krylova's students Kaganovskaya / Angelopol next season, given Kaganovskaya should not grow no more than 3 inches as Angeopol has a height deficit like Panomarenko, Jean Luc, Parson etc.

 

[Fadeevfanboy]

Diana Davis looked like she was expecting higher score from their RD

They should be overjoyed with the bloated, undeserved, unearned, criminal scores they are already getting. Simply due to a family member name. I used to think that of Stepanova & Bukin a bit, but that is to a whole other level.

 

[love_skate2011]

They should be overjoyed with the bloated, undeserved, unearned, criminal scores they are already getting. Simply due to a family member name. I used to think that of Stepanova & Bukin a bit, but that is to a whole other level.

Not sure if Diana Davis was expecting an 80, with that I was also expecting around 75+

 

[dancing_on_ice]

Rus Fed setting up for StepBukin for bronze in Olympics, and possibly gold at Worlds? They're good backup plan in case SinKats is injured or has twizzle disaster.

Suddenly they're scoring mid-86 in the RD, which is higher than the 3 North American teams in the GP. Maybe it's now a 4-team race for the individual bronze medal in Olympics.

And if P&C/S&K skip Worlds, suddenly Russia has a gold medal contender. How clever.

I think RusFed woke up to the fact that Nikita's back has been hanging on by a thread this season, and there's a very real possibility that SinKats can't skate the team event, so they will need to rely on StepBuk to at least be able to beat G/F in the rhythm dance. It's really interesting since StepBuk got zero backing in the fall season (just look at their scores on the Grand Prix), and were given bad assignments which led to them not qualifying for the Grand Prix Final. Now there's been a 180 as RusFed need a backup to SinKats for the team event, and possibly the individual event too, if Nikita's back gives out at the wrong moment. Also, scoring 86 isn't a huge red flag since scores rise as the season goes on. I still think the North American teams are more likely to get the bronze than StepBuk are since they have been getting a bronze medal push all season while StepBuk are only getting it at the last moment.

I think S/K will skip Worlds due to his back and since they have a world title already. Not sure if P/C will skip Worlds as it is being hosted in France, so a home worlds would be a nice way to cap off their careers.

 

[love_skate2011]

SinKats will definitely skate in Team but not both, if his back doesn't give way, a pain killer will do it.
SD would be the most obvious as its shorter time with less lifts.

At least the Diana Davis Conspiracy in Team is Off the conversations now

 

[litenkyckling]

I think RusFed genuinely didn't understand that backlash they would get for pushing D/S until the booing at RusNats.

Not shocked that they are now getting behind S/B because Nikita's back is definitely something to be concerned about. Scores aside, I think that S/B looked the best they have all season today - she looked so much more confident and into the music, the definitely deserved the 9.5 they got in performance. S/K were good, but I'd argue not their best outing of this? She usually looks really solid but there were a couple of times in the blues and the pattern steps twizzles where she looked a little shaky.

I've only half watched this as I was at work but feels like the most fairly scored event of the Europeans so far? We shall see tomorrow though - as Gleb Smolkin says "At this competitions we don’t look at the scores. There’re judges, they change, there will be new judges for the free dance". So who knows what will happen!

 

[VGThuy]

SinKats will definitely skate in Team but not both, if his back doesn't give way, a pain killer will do it.
SD would be the most obvious as its shorter time with less lifts.

At least the Diana Davis Conspiracy in Team is Off the conversations now

But what about the Diana Davis will win bronze at this year's World Championship conspiracy? Is that still on?

 

[love_skate2011]

I think RusFed genuinely didn't understand that backlash they would get for pushing D/S until the booing at RusNats.

Not shocked that they are now getting behind S/B because Nikita's back is definitely something to be concerned about. Scores aside, I think that S/B looked the best they have all season today - she looked so much more confident and into the music, the definitely deserved the 9.5 they got in performance. S/K were good, but I'd argue not their best outing of this? She usually looks really solid but there were a couple of times in the blues and the pattern steps twizzles where she looked a little shaky.

I've only half watched this as I was at work but feels like the most fairly scored event of the Europeans so far? We shall see tomorrow though - as Gleb Smolkin says "At this competitions we don’t look at the scores. There’re judges, they change, there will be new judges for the free dance". So who knows what will happen!

73 to 86 is more than 10 points, progression in Ice Dance scores will not be enough to cover that deficit
Ice Dance there are no jumps to inflate to catch up to a 13 points gap.

 

[dancing_on_ice]

I hope we're all prepared for the Diana Davis 2026 OGM push that's going to happen when SinKats and StepBuk retire due to injuries, leaving Diana Davis as the top Russian team

 

[litenkyckling]

73 to 86 is more than 10 points, progression in Ice Dance scores will not be enough to cover that deficit
Ice Dance there are no jumps to inflate to catch up to a 13 points gap.

I don’t really understand the point you’re making here?

 

[Karen-W]

SinKats will definitely skate in Team but not both, if his back doesn't give way, a pain killer will do it.
SD would be the most obvious as its shorter time with less lifts.

At least the Diana Davis Conspiracy in Team is Off the conversations now

Seriously, YOU were the first person to start promoting this wild conspiracy theory. Just stop talking like you know anything.

 

[MarieM]

73 to 86 is more than 10 points, progression in Ice Dance scores will not be enough to cover that deficit
Ice Dance there are no jumps to inflate to catch up to a 13 points gap.

They skated like a whole different team today. Really big edges, something they haven't achieved before.
They sacrificed the twizzles, but all the other elements ARE bigger and smoother.

As for pushing another team, Diana Davis isn't the answer. She's that bad. He's not. But she's not redeemable. She skates on flats all the time, and he spends his time pushing her on edges.
He would be so much better with Annabelle.

 

[Bigbird]

I found SinKats today messy and dry. That wasn't 87. It was worse in my mind to what they did in Rostelecom. I wonder if they're just bored of the dance itself? Or just saving energy for the FD? But as a dance it just felt empty.

G/F though were lit today. Everyone says Kats is the best here, maybe from knees down and just raw speed, but I love the total package that is Fabbri. His posture and styling was second to none here.

Off to watch the others.

 

[Fadeevfanboy]

S&K were never going to be placed behind S&B barring a face plant so once S&B were given a 86 and change, S&K were always going to get atleast a 87 and change even for a sluggish outing. It is simple math really.

 

[Bigbird]

S&K were never going to be placed behind S&B barring a face plant so once S&B were given a 86 and change, S&K were always going to get atleast a 87 and change even for a sluggish outing. It is simple math really.

I know you're right. I know.

 

[litenkyckling]

I found SinKats today messy and dry. That wasn't 87. It was worse in my mind to what they did in Rostelecom. I wonder if they're just bored of the dance itself? Or just saving energy for the FD? But as a dance it just felt empty.

G/F though were lit today. Everyone says Kats is the best here, maybe from knees down and just raw speed, but I love the total package that is Fabbri. His posture and styling was second to none here.

Off to watch the others.

G/F never seem to get put on best lift lists but he truly puts every other shorter ID guy to shame with the lifts they manage sometimes - they're like the same height and can do THAT.