U.S. Men 2021-22 season news & updates

[VGThuy]

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Ding ding ding! This is far worse than passing over Miner in 2018. Between the junior international season being wiped out last year and the GPF/JGPF being cancelled due to Omicron, Ilia didn't have a fighting chance to do much more than he did.

He could have skated much better at his CS challenger and not bombed one JGP.

 

[Karen-W]

This is worse than Nicole Bobek making the team in 1998 because of the Campbell's Soup ads...

 

[Lilia A]

Memo to the guys competing at US nationals in 2026: Whatever you do, do NOT finish 2nd. Anywhere but silver. Got it?

 

[On My Own]

Should be Zhou off the team But I'd have not put Brown on the team, too, if we were following the tier criteria strictly.

 

[Baby Yoda On Skates]

I'm completely shocked. Ilia more than made his case.

 

[Rukia]

I absolutely believe Malinin has about a 50% or more chance of being in Beijing. C0vid is too wild for all three to avoid it.

This is true of all the first alternates. Which makes sending G/P to 4CC a headscratcher, but oh well.

 

[VGThuy]

This is worse than Nicole Bobek making the team in 1998 because of the Campbell's Soup ads...

Didn’t Tonia bomb her LP?

 

[becca]

Ridiculous, I agree. Is he also a Uzbek citizen like his parents? Would serve the USFS right to lose a future star over this stupid political decision.

I absolutely believe Malinin has about a 50% or more chance of being in Beijing. C0vid is too wild for all three to avoid it.

So what USFSA just showed all young skaters how they will be treated.

He should go where he is appreciated. They were just handed a kid who could be competitive on the world and Olympic stage for quads to come and threw him away absolutely insane.

 

[BlueRidge]

Bravo USFSA for valuing a skater for his contributions, not just flash and quads.

This is absolutely the right decision. It sends the message that committing to skating matters and beautiful skating matters. And quads aren't the be all and end all.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Karen-W]

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He could have skated much better at his CS challenger and not bombed one JGP.

Oh, yeah, that 1st JGP that he bombed was still the 9th highest score of any man on the JGP... https://isu.org/docman-documents-li...rix-2/series-files-39/rankings/26347-men/file

 

[skatfan]

Brown, Chen, Zhou

Wow - I can't believe the USFS did that to Malinin.

You mean follow their criteria?

 

[floskate]

USFSA really are fcuking stupid aren't they? Dreadful decision.

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

I absolutely believe Malinin has about a 50% or more chance of being in Beijing. C0vid is too wild for all three to avoid it.

There could still be consequences of that drive from Atlanta to Nashville.

 

[~tapdancer~]

Oh for pete's sake, people, get over it. I love the Olympic team choice, BOW matters. Ilia is great but he will be greater one day and his time will come. He still skates like a junior even with the quads, which are beautiful, btw.
Congrats to Nathan, Vincent, and Jason!

 

[becca]

Bravo USFSA for valuing a skater for his contributions, not just flash and quads.

This is absolutely the right decision. It sends the message that committing to skating matters and beautiful skating matters. And quads aren't the be all and end all.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Illia never was given the opportunity this is wrong .

 

[jlai]

Ding ding ding! This is far worse than passing over Miner in 2018. Between the junior international season being wiped out last year and the GPF/JGPF being cancelled due to Omicron, Ilia didn't have a fighting chance to do much more than he did.

Is Jason and Ilia both priority 3? Do the criteria favor one or the other?

 

[tony]

It’s so true though, Malinin was screwed. He wins both JGP, he can’t go to the Final to further his record (Brown didn’t need the GP), there was no junior season last year, etc.

I also think the USFS has lost their mind on top of being incredibly shady. And if whoever is President now goes in the press room and says Jason is a medal threat like they tried to push for Rippon, I will lose it.

 

[Tesla]

I think they picked Jason because of Vincent. Because of the tiers, they were locked with Vincent. I think they wanted Nathan, Jason, and Ilia. Jason is more consistent than Vincent and Ilia is untested on the big stage. Jason is another rock alongside Nathan. I believe they wanted two rocks (Nathan and Jason) and not two wildcards (Vincent and Ilia).

 

[smarts1]

Wow really shocking decision

 

[once_upon]

There could still be consequences of that drive from Atlanta to Nashville.

Yep. Exactly what I'm thinking.

 

[canbelto]

Bravo USFSA for valuing a skater for his contributions, not just flash and quads.

This is absolutely the right decision. It sends the message that committing to skating matters and beautiful skating matters. And quads aren't the be all and end all.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The amazing thing about sports is that they are competitions and not lifetime achievement awards.

 

[tony]

I think they picked Jason because of Vincent. Because of the tiers, they were locked with Vincent. I think they wanted Nathan, Jason, and Ilia. Jason is more consistent than Vincent and Ilia is untested on the big stage. Jason is another rock alongside Nathan. I believe they wanted two rocks (Nathan and Jason) and not two wildcards (Vincent and Ilia).

A rock to finish just barely inside the top 10 most likely? This isn’t Worlds. Doesn’t matter what Brown’s safe placement will do because it doesn’t mess with 2023 spots.

 

[carriecmu0503]

Bravo USFSA for valuing a skater for his contributions, not just flash and quads.

This is absolutely the right decision. It sends the message that committing to skating matters and beautiful skating matters. And quads aren't the be all and end all.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It also show USFS does not give a sh*t if the skaters they send can hope to at best skate to a 7th place finish, when they instead could send a skater who could win a medal! Malinin is AT LEAST as good as the young Japanese skater who medalled at worlds last year at age 17!

 

[thvu]

I’m in a bit of a shock. Are they really this short sighted? Malinin was the only medallist to skate cleanly in this competition. He came with amazing quads. He got the silver. Literally did everything. Showed growth in the season. This comp proved an upward trend.

What a complete messed up day of skating where the highlight of the day is now also something that’s going to annoy the crap out of me.

 

[skateboy]

This is worse than Nicole Bobek making the team in 1998 because of the Campbell's Soup ads...

Bite your tongue! Nicole was stellar at '98 Nats and totally deserved her spot!

 

[soogar]

Watch Vincent doesn’t make it to the free skate at the Olympics.

 

[concorde]

If I am the Malinins I sit him out for the rest of the season and switch to Russia ridiculous

Agree 100%.

 

[VGThuy]

Oh, yeah, that 1st JGP that he bombed was still the 9th highest score of any man on the JGP... https://isu.org/docman-documents-li...rix-2/series-files-39/rankings/26347-men/file

We’re talking seniors here.

 

[canbelto]

Tbh Vincent doesn't have the consistency and Brown doesn't have the jump content. The USFSA decided to go with a lose-lose situation instead of investing in some potential.

 

[jlai]

It’s so true though, Malinin was screwed. He wins both JGP, he can’t go to the Final to further his record (Brown didn’t need the GP), there was no junior season last year, etc.

I also think the USFS has lost their mind on top of being incredibly shady. And if whoever is President now goes in the press room and says Jason is a medal threat like they tried to push for Rippon, I will lose it.

But there is nothing in the criteria that definitely put one over the other? Or am I mistaken?