2022 Nationals in Nashville

[livetoskate]

I am so relieved USFS is requiring both proof of vaccination and masking. With Omicron spreading like wildfire it is the necessary and right thing to do. I am looking forward to attending and will definitely feel safer due to these precautions.

Totally. I was thinking about not going to watch after all, but these new policies make me feel safer. Whew....

 

[Arwen17]

I'm surprised they're going to be able to lay hands on enough tests for their "fully credentialed" people at Bellevue arena. Is that really going to work without a hiccup?

 

[griffen]

If they offered full refunds, a lot of us would say "fine", because at this point, we're plenty disgusted with them for announcing this a week before the event, despite predators dropping their mandate finally and the governor passing a law.

BOO HOO

 

[YukiNieve]

Is Clear app the same app we use to go to a faster line at the airport?

 

[AnnM]

Is Clear app the same app we use to go to a faster line at the airport?

Yes

 

[Aceon6]

Yes, no big deal…I actually didn’t plan on taking my vaccination card with me, but I guess now I will.

Keep it on your phone. I’ve never been in a situation that requires the original. And if it’s on your phone, you have it for uploading as needed.

 

[Carolla5501]

FALSE.
I bought the tickets back in April, the first week they went on sale. The news articles tells me the arena didn't start requiring a vax pass or negative test until September. And then it was quickly overturned in November. The Tennessee governor also passed a law in our favor. All signs were pointing to it being the same requirements as the Las Vegas arena (masks only) for the vast majority of the time since April. There were also plenty of tests around until now, if worst came to worst. Everything I hear right now is people complaining how hard tests are to get because of the holidays.

1. This insane policy does nothing. The majority of people getting omicron are vaxxed, and yet they don't have to be tested to enter the arena. So they will carry omicron right to you while you whine about the unvaxxed. Enjoy!
2. It's announced one week before the event, which isn't enough time to do anything if this is supposed to "encourage" vaxxing instead testing lol.
3. It's announced at a time when everyone is scrambling for tests, even when they are totally symptom-less.

Really? The CDC has been telling you to wear a mask for almost 2 years and this is breaking news to you.


Yes the vaccination role is new, but you don’t have to get vaccinated you can get your test but your original screaming includes the information you can’t stand mask wearing either. Those rules have been in place for all USFS events. They aren’t telling you have to get a vaccination just that you had to be tested.

And I’ll be honest I’m really not sorry for you that you can’t find a test. If you had done the right thing and gotten a vaccination you wouldn’t be having this panic attack over testing. The world is going to become very small for people like you who are afraid of a needle

 

[Carolla5501]

Keep it on your phone. I’ve never been in a situation that requires the original. And if it’s on your phone, you have it for uploading as needed.

Totally unrelated, but I have seen situations where you have to have the original vaccination card. I saw a woman recently on television who got turned away at an airport because she was flying someplace that required a vaccination card and all she had was a picture of it on the phone and they wouldn’t take that

I’ll probably take mine with me just to be on the safe side. I also have my state vaccination record which to me looks somewhat more official than the CDC Card

 

[peibeck]

So, I downloaded the Clear app. It’s very easy to use, but the “pass” expires tomorrow. So I believe a new pass will be required to be made for each entry into the arena? Has anyone used this at a Predator’s game at Bridgestone Arena? Am I understanding this correctly?

My coworker who has season tickets for the Blues has to recheck in herself and her husband for each game, even if they are on consecutive nights, so we'll have to do it each day.

Based on the 12 hour window, unless you attend a very early practice, I'd think submitting your info once per morning should be sufficient.

Also, I'm very glad they put this in place. Obviously nothing is 100%, but it's a huge step in support of the athletes, officials, and fans.

I'm disheartened, but not shocked, some people are unhappy with this new guidance.

 

[Bulletsdad]

I just renewed my Clear pass for another 17 hours with no additional scans or downloading!

 

[TanithandBenFan]

The highs are in the 70s this week in Nashville, but of course the typical Nationals Arctic blast will arrive just in time for the event!

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[Gusmom]

For the unvaccinated, not only is testing throughout the event going to be a PITA, if there is any day your results are delayed, you won't be able to attend and, if you test positive, you won't be able to attend anything after that point. It seems like both a pain and a risk. This isn't a one-day event where you get tested once and you are good to go.

I do wish they required it daily though. 3 days is too long between tests.
I was planning to bring my own rapid tests anyway - to help protect others.

 

[Gusmom]

They problem is, they won't refund our tickets. That's what so unfair about this crap. If they're going to make changes a week before an event, they should offer full refunds. And I think the same should apply if they did the opposite and removed some or all restrictions and someone didn't like it and wanted a refund.

the arena had this requirement (from I think August) until mid-November.
I was annoyed they didn’t offer refunds then bc that was a factor in me buying my tickets, but I don’t recall seeing many people upset about that requirement.

Unless someone has bought tickets since then (& judging by the seating chart online, the majority were sold well before that), the vax/test requirement is not brand new.

 

[Arwen17]

Really? The CDC has been telling you to wear a mask for almost 2 years and this is breaking news to you.


Yes the vaccination role is new, but you don’t have to get vaccinated you can get your test but your original screaming includes the information you can’t stand mask wearing either. Those rules have been in place for all USFS events. They aren’t telling you have to get a vaccination just that you had to be tested.

And I’ll be honest I’m really not sorry for you that you can’t find a test. If you had done the right thing and gotten a vaccination you wouldn’t be having this panic attack over testing. The world is going to become very small for people like you who are afraid of a needle

I think you are confusing me for the other guy who wanted to sell his tickets because masks would be required. Do you remember any of my posts? I was in Las Vegas Skate America where masks were required. Of course I HATE masks, but I knew they would likely be a thing when buying tickets for Las Vegas and possibly Nashville if the fear-mongering continued that far. I bought my tickets in April, the very first week they were released. They didn't have a vax-pass at the arena until September and it was the Predators pushing that. As soon as the Predators season finished up, they got rid of it in November. The governor also passed a law saying they couldn't mandate vaccines. Like I've already said in another post, everything was looking good and if push came to shove, yes testing. But with the way things are right now, I think they might struggle to get all of their "fully credentialed" staff tested every 3 days. Maybe not. Maybe it will be fine for everyone, including me. But telling us a week beforehand.... and they still haven't sent out any mass-email to ticket-holders, which means the VAST majority of ticketholders still do not know about this sudden change in policy. What brilliance. What cowardice.
How would you like it if they removed ALL restrictions a week before the event? I'm going to assume that you probably thought like me, masks would be required, but not anything else. What if they had stripped all masks and run it just like Russian Nationals just did a few days ago? Would you still go? Since they won't refund your money if you don't like their sudden policy change.

I do wish they required it daily though. 3 days is too long between tests.
I was planning to bring my own rapid tests anyway - to help protect others.

I have no idea if they'll actually enforce it or not, but it states PCR/NAAT tests are required. So rapid antigen tests don't count.

the arena had this requirement (from I think August) until mid-November.
I was annoyed they didn’t offer refunds then bc that was a factor in me buying my tickets, but I don’t recall seeing many people upset about that requirement.

Unless someone has bought tickets since then (& judging by the seating chart online, the majority were sold well before that), the vax/test requirement is not brand new.

The Predators required it from September to November. I too was annoyed USFSA wasn't offering up a refund option during this time, but I took their silence as a sign that maybe they knew the policy would soon change since it was the Predators pushing it.
And voila, in November, it did change! And the governor passed a law. Other than probably secluding the athletes themselves a little more so they wouldn't test positive when trying to enter China, it was looking to be the same setup (masks only) as Skate America Las Vegas.
But ya know, USFSA being brilliant, decides to change its policy one week beforehand. Not the arena, not Nashville, USFSA. Clearly, we all died in Las Vegas, so we've got to make sure us zombies don't die again in Nashville. Two deaths in a row would be unthinkable.
If someone with a vax-pass has covid, who cares? They have a vax-pass, so we don't need to test them. We've just got to make sure we do something to the unvaxxed ticket-holders so the vaxxed feel superior. Superior, not safer, because omnicron will be carried into the building by all of the untested vax-pass people.

 

[MacMadame]

I do wish they required it daily though. 3 days is too long between tests.

Given that it can often take 3 days to get your results, I don't think daily is practical. And the rapid antigen tests don't really work if you have no symptoms. They are really to tell you if your symptoms are cold/flu or YKW.

 

[TanithandBenFan]

I got an email from USFS that they are offering refunds:

Dear 2022 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating ticket purchaser,



As a valued figure skating fan and ticket purchaser, U.S. Figure Skating is taking a proactive approach to protecting the health of all attendees of the 2022 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships, Jan. 3-9, at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tennessee.



On Dec. 27, 2021, U.S. Figure Skating re-introduced the following COVID-19 spectator protocols.



If you are unable to comply with these protocols, U.S. Figure Skating is offering a limited, one-time opportunity for ticket refunds.



The refund window is only available from today through 5 p.m. Central Time, Sunday, Jan. 2, 2022. Refund requests made after 5 p.m. CT, Sunday, Jan. 2 will not be considered.



To request a refund of an all-event or weekend ticket package(s):

• Email: [email protected]
• Include: Name of the original ticket purchaser and their Ticketmaster account number (located on the top left of your email confirmation at time of purchase).

Bridgestone Arena will process all refunds directly for those requested within the limited time frame outlined.



If you also purchased single-session tickets, Ticketmaster will contact you separately with a refund option using the refund request deadline of 5 p.m. CT, Sunday, Jan. 2.



Thank you for your continued support of Team USA and U.S. Figure Skating.

 

[ptvvibezz]

Just received an email from USFS about refund options:

Ticket refunds available through 5 p.m. CT, Sunday, Jan. 2​

December 28, 2022

Dear 2022 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating ticket purchaser,

As a valued figure skating fan and ticket purchaser, U.S. Figure Skating is taking a proactive approach to protecting the health of all attendees of the 2022 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships, Jan. 3-9, at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tennessee.

On Dec. 27, 2021, U.S. Figure Skating re-introduced the following COVID-19 spectator protocols.

If you are unable to comply with these protocols, U.S. Figure Skating is offering a limited, one-time opportunity for ticket refunds.

The refund window is only available from today through 5 p.m. Central Time, Sunday, Jan. 2, 2022. Refund requests made after 5 p.m. CT, Sunday, Jan. 2 will not be considered.

To request a refund of an all-event or weekend ticket package(s)

• Email: [email protected]
• Include: Name of the original ticket purchaser and their Ticketmaster account number (located on the top left of your email confirmation at time of purchase).

Bridgestone Arena will process all refunds directly for those requested within the limited time frame outlined.

If you also purchased single-session tickets, Ticketmaster will contact you separately with a refund option using the refund request deadline of 5 p.m. CT, Sunday, Jan. 2.

Thank you for your continued support of Team USA and U.S. Figure Skating.

Hoping the Covidiots will shut up now.

 

[Carolla5501]

Well this should make at least one poster happy


And for the rest of us it reduces the risk of those people who are afraid of needles and masks. They won’t be there


Wonder how many people will decide to get a refund who had already decided not to go for other reasons. Now they have an excuse. And of course the people who have been fire selling the tickets are going to be up in arms.

 

[Gusmom]

If they offered full refunds, a lot of us would say "fine", because at this point, we're plenty disgusted with them for announcing this a week before the event, despite predators dropping their mandate finally and the governor passing a law.

BOO HOO

Apparently they are now.
Which means the rest of us could have bought better seats. I wonder if they’ll resell or let us exchange.

But at least it will be less crowded for the rest of us.

 

[Bulletsdad]

Well this should make at least one poster happy


And for the rest of us it reduces the risk of those people who are afraid of needles and masks. They won’t be there


Wonder how many people will decide to get a refund who had already decided not to go for other reasons. Now they have an excuse. And of course the people who have been fire selling the tickets are going to be up in arms.

Now the anti-vaxxers/maskers will complain about non-refundable hotel reservations.?

 

[Yuri]

I got an email from USFS that they are offering refunds:

Dear 2022 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating ticket purchaser,



As a valued figure skating fan and ticket purchaser, U.S. Figure Skating is taking a proactive approach to protecting the health of all attendees of the 2022 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships, Jan. 3-9, at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tennessee.



On Dec. 27, 2021, U.S. Figure Skating re-introduced the following *********-19 spectator protocols.



If you are unable to comply with these protocols, U.S. Figure Skating is offering a limited, one-time opportunity for ticket refunds.



The refund window is only available from today through 5 p.m. Central Time, Sunday, Jan. 2, 2022. Refund requests made after 5 p.m. CT, Sunday, Jan. 2 will not be considered.



To request a refund of an all-event or weekend ticket package(s):

• Email: [email protected]
• Include: Name of the original ticket purchaser and their Ticketmaster account number (located on the top left of your email confirmation at time of purchase).

Bridgestone Arena will process all refunds directly for those requested within the limited time frame outlined.



If you also purchased single-session tickets, Ticketmaster will contact you separately with a refund option using the refund request deadline of 5 p.m. CT, Sunday, Jan. 2.



Thank you for your continued support of Team USA and U.S. Figure Skating.

Glad to see the USFS step up and finally do the right thing. Everyone should be happy now. Bah Humbug to all you Grinches who disagree with USFS offering full refunds with the two late protocol changes.

My hotel room at the Cambria Nashville is fully refundable, and I have already switched our flights to Tampa, so all is good here. Boo hoo to those who sold their tickets at a discount and are whining now. Risk-reward analysis is my top life skill, mostly from investing in the stock markets, but there was no way USFS wasn't going to alter its refund policy. The NFL did that no questions asked for the 2020 season, as did other sports.

The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch -- Capt. Bart Mancuso, The Hunt for Red October

 

[MacMadame]

Now the anti-vaxxers/maskers will complain about non-refundable hotel reservations.?

Mine are refundable through tomorrow. Anyone who gets non-refundable hotel reservations in this day and age is not paying attention. Even my airline reservation has a limited ability to change it.

I got the email about the refunds after I already sold my sister's ticket for less than face value. Please, no one tell her about the full refunds, okay?

 

[sk9tingfan]

Now the anti-vaxxers/maskers will complain about non-refundable hotel reservations.?

And, they are being rewarded for intensifying and perpetuating the crud.

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

I realize people get emotional about vaccines but could we not be assholes about an arena allowing ticket refunds after making massive policy changes 1 week before the event? I think they should be encouraged to offer refunds whenever they make major changes especially on short notice. I have absolutely no fcuks to give on why the policy changed on short notice or what it was. I just want to see the options of refunds rewarded in these instances on an ongoing basis. Don't let the issue cloud good customer service policy.

 

[sk9tingfan]

I realize people get emotional about vaccines but could we not be assholes about an arena allowing ticket refunds after making massive policy changes 1 week before the event? I think they should be encouraged to offer refunds whenever they make major changes especially on short notice. I have absolutely no fcuks to give on why the policy changed on short notice or what it was. I just want to see the options of refunds rewarded in these instances on an ongoing basis. Don't let the issue cloud good customer service policy.

If I had known they were going to do this, I would have held onto my tickets instead of giving them away.

 

[mtnskater]

Very fair and right move by USFS to offer refunds due to the change in policy. I’d be fine if USFS required daily testing too, but with tests being hard to come by I don’t see how they could do it next week. I’m fine with the anti-vaxxers staying home as well. My experience with these people is they are the first to pull their masks down and to keep them on their chin too.

And the question I have for anti-vaxxers is this: Have you refused all vaccines your entire life or did you just suddenly have an epiphany about vaccines being bad because the Republicans and conservative media told you to? Most public schools have required multiple vaccines for children for decades. If you traveled internationally pre-CoVid vaccines are often required for regional diseases. So much hypocrisy for conservatives to suddenly decide only CoVid vaccines are bad.
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[Karen-W]

Very fair and right move by USFS to offer refunds due to the change in policy. I’d be fine if USFS required daily testing too, but with tests being hard to come by I don’t see how they could do it next week. I’m fine with the anti-vaxxers staying home as well. My experience with these people is they are the first to pull their masks down and to keep them on their chin too.

And the question I have for anti-vaxxers is this: Have you refused all vaccines your entire life or did you just suddenly have an epiphany about vaccines being bad because the Republicans and conservative media told you to? Most public schools have required multiple vaccines for children for decades. If you traveled internationally pre-********* vaccines are often required for regional diseases. So much hypocrisy for conservatives to suddenly decide only ********* vaccines are bad.
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Christ, leave the anti-vaxxer questions/conversation for the other forums here on FSU where these topics are appropriate.

 

[tony]

Very fair and right move by USFS to offer refunds due to the change in policy. I’d be fine if USFS required daily testing too, but with tests being hard to come by I don’t see how they could do it next week. I’m fine with the anti-vaxxers staying home as well. My experience with these people is they are the first to pull their masks down and to keep them on their chin too.

And the question I have for anti-vaxxers is this: Have you refused all vaccines your entire life or did you just suddenly have an epiphany about vaccines being bad because the Republicans and conservative media told you to? Most public schools have required multiple vaccines for children for decades. If you traveled internationally pre-********* vaccines are often required for regional diseases. So much hypocrisy for conservatives to suddenly decide only ********* vaccines are bad.
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I’m as liberal as they get, but why is there this constant pushing that people are anti-vax solely because of their political affiliation? There may be people who have stayed extremely cautious this whole time and still have their own personal reasons who simply wanted to attend a skating competition. Maybe not. You and I don’t know for sure, though.

Second, I’m still waiting for someone to explain how letting a bunch of people with vaccination records in to the venue without testing, and who will likely eat at some point, somehow makes it safer? I commented on it earlier and it got no reaction, but someone please tell me the difference whether you catch CV from someone vaxxed or unvaxxed? Maybe you think all vaccinated people have sat at home and not put themselves at any risk?

Probably shouldn’t have replied, but I fail to see how anyone could explain the difference in ‘safety’ now. IMO, the second you step foot outside of your home, there is equal risk no matter what.

ETA- I can almost guarantee that even with a rink full of vaccinated people, the PBP threads will feature a bunch of posters commenting on how someone 50 feet away doesn’t have their mask over their nose.

To get back on topic ? - it’s a week away and hopefully we see great performances all-around. If you’re going, enjoy the skating.

 

[mtnskater]

I’m as liberal as they get, but why is there this constant pushing that people are anti-vax solely because of their political affiliation? There may be people who have stayed extremely cautious this whole time and still have their own personal reasons who simply wanted to attend a skating competition. Maybe not. You and I don’t know for sure, though.

You can’t have missed the politicization of the pandemic!!?? And that a large percentage of Republicans have indicated in polling that they will not get the CoVid vaccine and that red and conservative states have much lower vaccination rates. I’m sure these same people have had many other vaccines in their lifetime, but nope not this one. Sure there have always been a small percentage of people that were totally against vaccines in the U.S. Or some who may have bad reactions to any vaccines that can’t risk it.

Agree with you though that I hope everyone has a safe and fun Nationals. I am so excited to go after missing 2020 Worlds and Nationals last year!!!

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

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