The Dance Hall 9: Bring the Bling or No Beijing 2021-2022
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Here is what I found on Sara's Wiki page:
011–2012 season[edit]
Hurtado/Díaz moved to London, England, in mid-2011 after Dunn accepted a coaching job in his native country.[6][10] In November, they competed at their first-ever Grand Prix event, the 2011 Trophée Éric Bompard, where they placed 8th (last). In December 2011, they ended their relationship with Dunn and relocated to Montreal, Quebec, Canada, to train under Marie-France Dubreuil and Patrice Lauzon.[11][12][13]...
2015–2016 season: Hurtado/Díaz part ways[edit]
Hurtado/Díaz were invited to two Grand Prix events – the 2015 Trophée Éric Bompard and the 2015 Rostelecom Cup. However, on 16 October 2015, Hurtado announced on her personal Facebook page that she had decided to end the partnership.[16][17] In a later interview, Hurtado stated that their partnership had experienced problems for some time and that therapy had not helped resolve these issues.[18]
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Wonder if he's been released yet and when we might see them in international competition.
FYI for anyone who missed the German Nationals thread, Janse Van Rensburg & Steffan upset Muller & Dieck at Nationals: 179.07 to 177.11. Muller & Dieck won the European selection criteria, including two head-to-heads earlier in the year.
I really like Ichilov so I'm glad she has a partner, and I hope he is more committed than the last. Their styles have been very different. ?Fingers crossed that they can make it work.
Cross-posting from the French News thread:
No mistranslation this time: Wagret/Souquet-Basiège have split.
According to their instagram posts, both are hoping to find new partners.
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They were probably the top team working with Dubreuil and Lauzon around the time of the Sochi Olympics.
Hurtado/Diaz have known each other since they were kids, and didn't really have other people to partner with when they started skating together - their Wikipedia pages link to this interview where Sara talks about begging their federation to bring in someone so they could switch to ice dance. It's always nice to see skaters succeed with their original partners, but of course people can grow apart, as in any relationship.
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It's interesting to me because despite their presumed differences about training methods, Diaz and Hurtado seem to have achieved roughly comparable success with their new partners.
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Truth. But Hurtado is a DIVA. But then she ran into the biggest diva of them all ZHULIN. So there would be no choice, go big or go home.
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Did you mean to say Hurtado?
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Oh you know I did. It's just the Diaz swag playing tricks on my mind.
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I feel like training with Zhulin isn't doing Sara and Kirill much good, TBH.
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To me Kirill looks tired (he is often "wobbly"). He might also be tired of competing ... .
It IS maybe the greatest difficulty in Ice Dance to be in synch with a partner for years: a little miracle imo when it happens!
It IS maybe the greatest difficulty in Ice Dance to be in synch with a partner for years: a little miracle imo when it happens!
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Sigh. Sara was at her best with the IAM group. I can only dream of how good she would have been now. Zhulin tends to transform his teams into copies of N/K or U/Z, I can hardly find an authenic bone in his body.
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Yeah I feel like he is done. She may choose to find a new partner after this season?
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I agree! I must say though that I like both their programs this year. They have the potential to be great imo.
They often had the better material compared to the other ice dancers in Zhulin's team!
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Yes, in my opinion, Hurtado/Khaliavin's programs have been much better than Sinitisina/Katsalapov's during the time they've been training with Zhulin. I think that is attributable to Sara, honestly--from past interviews, it sounds like she has some direction of their programs, as on their Spanish flamenco free dance, which was created by a Spanish choreographer, I think.
In an IFS interview this season, Sara said that she may retire after this season. I wish she wouldn't, as I love her and Kirill, but anyhow that's what she said. So I think it's unlikely she would look for a new partner. If Kirill looks tired at times, well, he does have a newborn/toddler at home.
In an IFS interview this season, Sara said that she may retire after this season. I wish she wouldn't, as I love her and Kirill, but anyhow that's what she said. So I think it's unlikely she would look for a new partner. If Kirill looks tired at times, well, he does have a newborn/toddler at home.
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I am coming to realise that Zhulin cannot work miracles. If SinKats the team was capable of better he would have served them better.Yes, in my opinion, Hurtado/Khaliavin's programs have been much better than Sinitisina/Katsalapov's during the time they've been training with Zhulin. I think that is attributable to Sara, honestly--from past interviews, it sounds like she has some direction of their programs, as on their Spanish flamenco free dance, which was created by a Spanish choreographer, I think.
In an IFS interview this season, Sara said that she may retire after this season. I wish she wouldn't, as I love her and Kirill, but anyhow that's what she said. So I think it's unlikely she would look for a new partner. If Kirill looks tired at times, well, he does have a newborn/toddler at home.
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My favourite FD however is from Lop/Bri. Sara and Kiril don't have the combined skills to really do that programme service.
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Right before the split after they skated at a competition at Quatre Glace in Pierrefonds, que....Hurtado had a hissy fit with Diaz with poor M.F. in the middle after they skated. It was not physical except for stamping and hand waving by the Diva.I don't know what mistake/or mistakes he might have made that made her blow her gasket but seriously I have watched her skate this yr. with current partner and she is always blowing her twizzles...not just a slight balance check but sometimes stumbling and almost falling. The weird thing is the judges r not penalizing her adequately for her messes. They dock a level but still give very high GOE's. So maybe Zulins political standing with the judges is the reason they are there. Their programs and their twizzles are very blah.
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Sigh.
I think both Spanish teams are pretty well balanced.
You get those moments. Those golden opportunities to pull ahead. Hurtado & Khaliavin had one at Finlandia this year. Smart & Diaz had one in Austria. Most of the time, teams don't grab those rare golden opportunities--maybe because they come along so rarely and that creates a great deal of pressure when they come along. Anyway, neither team grabbed said golden opportunity. Nor was either team at 100% last season when the real golden opportunity to earn two berths came up at Spanish Nationals & Worlds.
On the other hand, both teams did capitalize on opportunities this season. Smart & Diaz efficiently took out Fear & Gibson (and Davis & Smolkin) at Skate Canada. Hurtado & Khaliavin did take out Hawayek & Baker at Rostelecom.
Taking those results into account, along with Zagorski & Guerrero's questionable condition at the moment, it seems Spain is actually favored to finish in the top 10 at the Olympics and/or Worlds this year for the first time.
Though there are a whole lot of question marks in that zone right now.
*Note: Fear & Gibson defeated both Spanish teams at Finlandia, splitting dances with H&K & winning both dances over S&D there; then F&G defeated H&K in both dances at NHK. Hence, results this season are definitely split between the British & the Spanish dancers.
You get those moments. Those golden opportunities to pull ahead. Hurtado & Khaliavin had one at Finlandia this year. Smart & Diaz had one in Austria. Most of the time, teams don't grab those rare golden opportunities--maybe because they come along so rarely and that creates a great deal of pressure when they come along. Anyway, neither team grabbed said golden opportunity. Nor was either team at 100% last season when the real golden opportunity to earn two berths came up at Spanish Nationals & Worlds.
On the other hand, both teams did capitalize on opportunities this season. Smart & Diaz efficiently took out Fear & Gibson (and Davis & Smolkin) at Skate Canada. Hurtado & Khaliavin did take out Hawayek & Baker at Rostelecom.
Taking those results into account, along with Zagorski & Guerrero's questionable condition at the moment, it seems Spain is actually favored to finish in the top 10 at the Olympics and/or Worlds this year for the first time.
Though there are a whole lot of question marks in that zone right now.
*Note: Fear & Gibson defeated both Spanish teams at Finlandia, splitting dances with H&K & winning both dances over S&D there; then F&G defeated H&K in both dances at NHK. Hence, results this season are definitely split between the British & the Spanish dancers.
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I know it was a different season entirely last year, and they did do the screening, I get it but... I think that I would have sent S/D to Worlds in 2021. Sara was coming back from injury and their RD was never a hit. While I personally didn't love S/D's programmes, the judges did like them. I think they would have managed to grab the top 10 spot as the grease RD would have set them up well for the free. Not that it matters now, but the pandemic really hasn't helped with the Spanish ID dilemma.
Only 0.8 points are separating S/D and H/K after the RD at Spanish nationals, with S/D leading. Watching the performance I felt like the judges forced the small gap since Kirill had several issues on twizzling elements during the performance. The FD will be a nailbiter.
May be the same visa issue as Gabriella papadakis ...
British judge went for S/D by a "mile" (3 points) in PCS (he is #3 in the protocols). Olozagarre went for them by 0.75.
Spanish judge without international ID qualification went for H/K by 1.25, Austrian judge for H/K by 0.25.
Munoz tied them.
Some interesting results in other countries
At 4N, I didn't expect Cimlova/Hlavsa winning over Mrazkova/Mrazek. Male Mrazek fell and lost an element in the RD, so after that C/H's win wasn't surprising anymore. However, C/H marginally won also the FD.
It was a fight between Italian camps: Barbara (C/H) over Zanni (M/M).
It was rather close between Kaliszek/Spodyriev and Taschlerova/Taschler in Senior. But we are used to K/S's scores being up and down all over the season according to the panels. So maybe they will "surprise" again at Euros.
In France, I noticed Dupayage/Nabais over Demougeot/Le Mercier in the FD (also in terms of PCS).
It was 0.38 points difference in BV, virtually tied.
I think mainly I'm used to Kaliszek & Spodyriev's scores being down early in the season and up late in the season because they always show up for their early CS or first GP event looking like they're not yet in shape, just learned the choreography in their programs, & are kind of praying to stay on their feet. Most top dancers don't compete at that stage of preparation. Maybe a summer club event on a scratchy feed. But obviously, it doesn't bother K&S to do so. I wonder if maybe their coach feels the only way to motivate them is to let them crash & burn if they aren't ready? Then they're usually ready by Rostelecom & Warsaw Cup; however, this season, they've had no time to get ready since they've been injured mid-season. I assume the free, in particular, still needs work. Is there a link to their FD performance in the Nationals thread?
Taschlerova & Taschler, on the other hand, had to be ready for Nebelhorn so were about as ready as any dance team out there early in the season.
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