Just call me Harry. (Everything Harry & Meghan)

[kittyjake5]

Wow gorgeous home and grounds, very private.

 

[aftershocks]

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Staying at Tyler Perry's Mansion — TMZ

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are doing L.A. the right way, because there are few homes more spectacular than Tyler Perry's, and the entertainment mogul has opened his house up to the wayward couple.

apple.news

^^ Possible, I suppose, yet unconfirmed. This is about the fourth hot Hollywood property the tabloids have been suggesting M&H are staying at or attempting to purchase.

I see this book as a step in the direction for H&M to become financially independent, it is all about the money, no judgment more power to them...

The big problem with this belief of yours is that M&H are not writing the book, and will not be making money off of the book. I'm sure the Sussexes are eager for the truth to be presented, and that would be why their friends were given the go-ahead to speak with the book's authors, whom the Sussexes apparently trust and feel have proven themselves to be fair and professional journalists.

The book surely provides publicity, but the Sussexes truthfully at this moment in time, need no publicity. They are not seeking attention, it's just that the public and the media are apparently very interested in them. Thus attention seeks them. They appear to me to be intent on living their lives gracefully with as much privacy as possible, while giving back with genuine passion and focus on their humanitarian goals and initiatives. There's no getting around the fact that they are public figures. They just seem to want to be able to live their lives without the crazy, OTT intrusiveness and lies by the tabloid media.


On social media there's an apt post addressed to royal reporter Chris Ship and to the British tabloids:

https://twitter.com/schaekay1/status/1252024224417488897
“Lemme just leave you with Harry in his own words [about the tabloid media] long before Meghan was in the picture.”

 

[mjb52]

Ugh that has made me so sad. I would not trade places with him for billions of dollars.

 

[kittyjake5]

First of all it is not a belief of mine about the book profits as I do not have any inside knowledge but they do need to make money to become "financially independent"
H&M words not mine and from a financial standpoint this would be a way for them to tell their side of the story by trusted authors and profit
at the same time. I assume they are getting advice from financial planners.

 

[canbelto]

Archie is a cute baby. A good mix of both mom and dad I think.

 

[aftershocks]

@kittyjake, you said that you 'see' the book as a step in their direction for financial independence, but they will not be making money from the book by Omid Scobie. Another thing to realize is that Meghan & Harry are not going to have any problems making money. They are both already independently wealthy with financial investments and obviously financial advisers. Meghan also will likely be receiving residuals from her acting career. Right now, they are focused on developing a non-profit to further their humanitarian efforts. As far as furthering their financial independence, there are plenty of opportunities available to them including speaking engagements; documentary production deals; Harry has already been working with Oprah on the mental health documentary series; Meghan may continue doing voiceover work; Meghan could land possible fashion and beauty endorsements, or she could develop another fashion capsule collection or a skincare line; book deals could be available to them involving memoirs or another cookbook project Meghan could develop... the possibilities are limitless.

She's now cleaned up her story and issued an apology on her social media.

Probably suggested by her publishers. I've seen a number of posts on social media sites by former readers of her books indicating they will not purchase anymore of her books... I'd never heard of her before anyway.

OMG. Archie continues to be a dead ringer for his maternal grandfather! Happy Birthday to the little tot!

Mmmm, it's always in the eyes of the beholder. For me Archie looks like himself with a mix of features from both parents. I can see why some peope feel Archie looks so much like Harry. He has Harry's coloring, forehead, head shape, ears, and some of the way he moves his mouth, though his bottom lip appears fuller like Meghan's.

https://www.etonline.com/sites/default/files/images/2019-03/prince-harry-meghan-markle-baby-photos-getty-images-splashj.jpg

https://media.glamour.com/photos/5eb2e4436ea26f36e2763d95/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/meghan-baby.png

Archie's nose seems to take after Meghan's. It remains to be seen if his nose will have the Markle 'tip.' Archie's eyes are dark brown like Meghan's (a Ragland trait). Both Meghan's and Harry's eyes are deep-set, but Archie's eyes are wide-spaced and not deep-set (again, Ragland traits). The main thing Archie inherits from his maternal grandfather, I think, is his large size. He's probably going to be large-framed and very tall, even taller than Harry. Archie is definitely a handful at this age, but M&H appear to be patient, attentive and joyful parents.

Seemingly, the shape (not the color) of Archie's eyes is similar to the shape of his paternal grandmother's eyes (but her eyes were also deep-set and Archie's eyes are not):

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HwuAjWbmB_o/UBA4mM0t3tI/AAAAAAAAAwE/xBvcqBwRa-U/s1600/Lady_Diana_Childhood_Pictures(123)2.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ek0LrZBTFbg/XrK56DhsQ-I/AAAAAAABm9s/J-IKltXRqyEv9EoTvGpLsmw-nUyoQ-esQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/omdjj.jpg

https://welfareatmarys.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/diana-princess-of-wales.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lUhX90O-Ko4/XrK17hS1nbI/AAAAAAABm80/e4ExK_O7f40Qv5HWz_JvBOtk6tP3UXEagCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/zvf22.jpg

 

[starrynight]

Meghan and Harry flew on Tyler Perry's $150M plane to move to LA

Tyler Perry sent his private jet to whisk Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to LA in a top secret, early morning enterprise on March 14, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Seems like there were massive logistical efforts including a full sized private jet plane to get them out of Canada secretly - all provided by Tyler Perry who is a very wealthy film and television producer.

I'm intrigued as to the motives of people loaning them private jets and these 18 million dollar homes to live in. Is it getting access to royalty that is the incentive? Probably. But I am a little surprised that Americans are so ready to hand over these kinds of gifts to minor British royals.

Or maybe when you're super rich like the person that owned the Canada house (does anyone know who did?) or Tyler Perry, it's not a big deal as you have plenty of other properties.

 

[ballettmaus]

I'm intrigued as to the motives of people loaning them private jets and these 18 million dollar homes to live in. Is it getting access to royalty that is the incentive? Probably. But I am a little surprised that Americans are so ready to hand over these kinds of gifts to minor British royals.

If anything, I think it might be that someone like Perry understands the desire for privacy. But maybe they know him or know someone who knows him and he was just helpful?

 

[starrynight]

If anything, I think it might be that someone like Perry understands the desire for privacy. But maybe they know him or know someone who knows him and he was just helpful?

I had never heard of Perry until these articles were posted here. I had a look at his wikipedia page and although he has done some acting, I think he's one of those showbiz characters that has made his fortune off producing, writing and directing. Although those people are often the most powerful and wealthy but don't have the personal fame of the actors (probably the ideal scenario really).

I read somewhere the connection is Oprah. Incidentally, I also read that Meghan was not friends with Oprah until she was invited to the wedding. So all of these Hollywood connections are through the royal status. I don't think they are any of Meghan's actual friends from her Suits days.

It must be a bit of an ego trip to lend royalty your plane and spare mansion because they can't afford it themselves.

Goes to show that once royalty is removed from their power structure (i.e. castles, estates, tax payer funds) they don't have anything special.

 

[MacMadame]

Goes to show that once royalty is removed from their power structure (i.e. castles, estates, tax payer funds) they don't have anything special.

Why would you lend your private plane and house to someone who doesn't "have anything special?" If anything, the fact that H&M can get people to lend them amazing mansions in multiple countries shows they have something special that goes beyond their ties to royalty.

Also, Tyler Perry is very famous. He did the Madea movies where he not only played Madea but they made a ton of money so now he can also make any movie he wants to. It's a feather in their caps that he let them live there IMO.

Here is the Root's take on it:

Yes, We've Heard the Sussexes Are Living in Tyler Perry's Mansion. No, We Don't Know Why—but Why Y'all So Mad?

You know that “California compound” we kept hearing Prince Harry and wife Meghan Markle have been calling home since relocating to Los Angeles? Multiple reports say it’s the Beverly Hills mansion of none other than Tyler Perry, who apparently has more time to shop for big-ass cribs than...

theglowup.theroot.com

 

[starrynight]

If anything, the fact that H&M can get people to lend them amazing mansions in multiple countries shows they have something special that goes beyond their ties to royalty.

If Harry wasn't a royal he'd probably be a brick layer or a plumber. A regular person. What is special about him aside from being born into the most powerful family in Britain?

The only thing I can think is that fame is currency in Hollywood. That's what creates things like Kardashians and Paris Hilton. Fame itself is the talent and the product. I remember being really sucked into the whole thing with Paris Hilton getting arrested for DUIs and going to prison lol. It was all just mindless stuff involving just a socialite, but it's all the world of fame and it creates these real life soap operas people follow.

 

[MacMadame]

If Harry wasn't a royal he'd probably be a brick layer or a plumber. A regular person.

I think he'd still go into the military and would still be there and be an officer with multiple medals for bravery and other positive acts.

 

[starrynight]

I just don't get this idea that this person by accident of birth should be viewed as fundamentally deserving a life of fabulous wealth and worship and should be considered better than other people.

Who knows what Harry's life would have been like without a team of people smoothing his way, teachers at school doing his assignments for him etc. He never had the best judgement - he was the one that dressed up as a Nazi to go to a fancy dress party.

I will never understand how he's become some sort of poster boy for 'standing up against the establishment'. He's just wholly the product of a class based society.

Just about the only thing royals can do to attempt to justify all that insane privilege is at least look like they are trying to serve their country. In that department, Harry has just left.

 

[MacMadame]

I never said he should be considered better than other people. I just think this idea that he'd be nothing if he wasn't born into royalty is extreme and possibly wishful thinking. The people who worked with him in extreme conditions respect him and that says to me that he is more than the accident of his birth.

 

[starrynight]

I just think this idea that he'd be nothing if he wasn't born into royalty is extreme and possibly wishful thinking. The people who worked with him in extreme conditions respect him and that says to me that he is more than the accident of his birth.

Soldiers in the army don't get golden coaches, castles, waving crowds, $18 million dollar mansions in LA, private jets and servants though - that's the accident of birth.

 

[Parsley Sage]

The Canada US border is currently closed to non-essential travel. As a US Citizen, Meghan would have been able to travel from Canada to the US with her family. There was no need for a "dash to the border before it closed".

 

[taf2002]

I just don't get this idea that this person by accident of birth should be viewed as fundamentally deserving a life of fabulous wealth and worship and should be considered better than other people.

Didn't you go to school with people whose parents were way richer than yours? That's an accident of birth & the royals didn't invent it. No one "deserves" to be born into fabulous wealth & worship but a fact of life is that some people are. There are always haves & have nots & it's counterproductive of the have nots to live their lives being eaten up with jealousy. Just accept it as the way of the world - you'll be much happier.

 

[mattiecat13]

So can Harry stay in the US indefinitely since he’s married to an American citizen? Was Meghan in the process of becoming a British citizen when they left?

 

[Vagabond]

So can Harry stay in the US indefinitely since he’s married to an American citizen?

Yes, if he has a visa, as I am sure he does.

Was Meghan in the process of becoming a British citizen when they left?

Yes, in the sense that maintaining residency in the United Kingdom is a prerequisite for eligibility.

 

[mag]

Yes, if he has a visa, as I am sure he does.

There were some interesting articles earlier about his visa or at least what kind he would qualify for. The consensus seemed to be that their charitable entity would need to apply for a visa for him as he doesn’t qualify for a diplomatic visa or other kinds. The consensus also seemed to be that they wouldn’t want his visa to be granted based on being Meghan’s husband. Although I don’t see why not. That seems like the easiest solution. I suspect the push to Archwell (have I got that name right?) registered and organized right away is partly to make sure they are in a place to apply for a visa before Harry’s 6 months runs out. He can live in the US for 6 months without a visa. I am sure they have a team of lawyers working on it so I don’t see Harry ending up in an ICE detainment centre anytime soon

 

[taf2002]

So can Harry stay in the US indefinitely since he’s married to an American citizen? Was Meghan in the process of becoming a British citizen when they left?

My Canadian husband had a visa but he was required to get a green card in order to stay longer. Visas have expiration dates.

 

[MacMadame]

Soldiers in the army don't get golden coaches, castles, waving crowds, $18 million dollar mansions in LA, private jets and servants though - that's the accident of birth.

Completely missing the point.

If you hate the idea of royalty so much, I'm surprised you bother with any of the royalty threads.

 

[mella]

On social media there's an apt post addressed to royal reporter Chris Ship and to the British tabloids:

https://twitter.com/schaekay1/status/1252024224417488897
“Lemme just leave you with Harry in his own words [about the tabloid media] long before Meghan was in the picture.”

Seeing all those clips together is really striking. A number of us have challenged the idea that this has all been about Meghan pushing Harry in a particular direction and this compilation is a good reminder about how open Harry has been about his feelings regarding the press for a very long time.

 

[ballettmaus]

There were some interesting articles earlier about his visa or at least what kind he would qualify for. The consensus seemed to be that their charitable entity would need to apply for a visa for him as he doesn’t qualify for a diplomatic visa or other kinds. The consensus also seemed to be that they wouldn’t want his visa to be granted based on being Meghan’s husband. Although I don’t see why not.

Maybe once he gets a Green Card, it would be less likely to get renewed if they got dirvorced? I have no idea, that's the only reason I can come up with. On the other hand, Green Cards are good for 10 years and he can apply for citizenship after 5, so...

That seems like the easiest solution. I suspect the push to Archwell (have I got that name right?) registered and organized right away is partly to make sure they are in a place to apply for a visa before Harry’s 6 months runs out. He can live in the US for 6 months without a visa.

If he's here on the visa waiver program then that's 3 months.

I hope he has already applied for a visa/is here on a visa though. Maybe he'd get special treatment because he's Harry but our lawyer told us that applying for a change of status has gotten a bit more complicated and it is now suggested to wait for three months before doing so. (Upon entering the US, you tell the officer the purpose of your visit and they accept that you change your mind after three months and decide that you'd like to stay but if you change your mind before that, they're now likely to consider that you already came with the intention of staying and are more likely to decline that application because they'll consider you to have lied to them).

I think the easiest would have been if Harry had entered the US on a spousal visa. They were in Canada before they came and I'm sure they know enough people in the right places to have fast-tracked it.

 

[starrynight]

Completely missing the point.

If you hate the idea of royalty so much, I'm surprised you bother with any of the royalty threads.

I find showbiz gossip amusing and Harry's not royal anymore.

I am confused by where Harry fits with people who like the Royal Family as an institution. He's just left in a process that was designed to cause the maximum amount of damage to the image and reputation of the royal family. And I expect there will be more of that to come in the future when the tell-all interviews and books start up.

 

[cygnus]

I think he'd still go into the military and would still be there and be an officer with multiple medals for bravery and other positive acts.

I'm not sure, but I don't think he would have had the marks in school to be accepted for officer training. I'm not sure of the intricacies of the British system, but without a degree he would have joined as a enlisted man. Had he done well there, he might have been commissioned from the ranks eventually and become an officer. He would have probably been an NCO fairly quickly though.

 

[overedge]

Re the ownership of the Canadian house that H&M stayed in, from a story in January in the local paper:

The Vancouver Sun and The Province has known the address of the property since last month but has not reported it, basically to give the Royals a fair chance at privacy.

We will report however that a land title search of the property shows that it is owned by Towner Bay Country Club Ltd, that has 24 directors — all but one of whom live in Victoria.

The same story says that David Foster's wife (not sure if they mean the most recent one ) is friends with Meghan, and David Foster was involved in arranging for H&M to live in the house.

 

[taf2002]

I'm not sure, but I don't think he would have had the marks in school to be accepted for officer training. I'm not sure of the intricacies of the British system, but without a degree he would have joined as a enlisted man. Had he done well there, he might have been commissioned from the ranks eventually and become an officer. He would have probably been an NCO fairly quickly though.

I'm wondering how you know what were his marks in school or how smart he is or how high he could go in his chosen field.

 

[starrynight]

I'm wondering how you know what were his marks in school or how smart he is or how high he could go in his chosen field.

There was some scandal a while back where one of Harry's school teachers was apparently asked to help him cheat at school. Apparently Eton College was doing everything to give him marks wherever they could find it. The whole thing was made public at an unfair dismissal tribunal.

Read all about it here:

Prince Harry was helped to cheat in exam, says ex-teacher

Former teachers of Prince Harry at Eton College helped him cheat in his A-level art course because he was such a weak student, a tribunal was told yesterday.

www.theguardian.com

£45,000 damages for Prince Harry teacher

· Eton agrees compensation for former art teacher · College decides 'to bring matter to a close'

www.theguardian.com

Prince Harry receives his A Level results

Prince Harry achieved two A level passes and is now able to continue to pursue his ambition of a career in the Army. His results were Art - B, Geography - D....

www.royal.uk

(And that's not tabloid reporting).

Apparently Eton pulled out all stops to get Harry the marks he needed to get admitted to Sandhurst - including teachers doing his course work for him and marking him as favourably as possible. Pretty much what you'd expect.

 

[mag]

I'm wondering how you know what were his marks in school or how smart he is or how high he could go in his chosen field.

I seem to remember there was quite a bit reported when Harry was in school. I think he even said at one point that he was not cut out for university. I don’t think assuming he would have taken the same path, school then straight to the military, had he not been royal, is all that far fetched. Getting into a good university and having the money to pay for it would be, after all, much easier for a Royal than a regular person.