Intermittent fasting and other dieting trends

[hanca]

The thing is I have tried high protein/low carb and can't do it. I love fruits and rice and other carbs too much. Sometimes I even allow myself a slice of cake. I'm not putting butter in my coffee. I'd rather get in the rhythm of this fasting and get my body into ketosis rather than try to eat an all protein no carb diet.

That doesn’t make sense to me. So you love fruits, rice and cake, and think that if you eat those only 8 hours a day, that it won’t count? The sugars/fats etc will be in your body, no matter whether you eat it during 8 hours, 4 hours or 12 hours.

 

[canbelto]

That doesn’t make sense to me. So you love fruits, rice and cake, and think that if you eat those only 8 hours a day, that it won’t count? The sugars/fats etc will be in your body, no matter whether you eat it during 8 hours, 4 hours or 12 hours.

No it does count because I'm reducing my total calories. My eating window is so small that as it stands now I eat some fruit and yogurt at 10, a small lunch at 2, and barely have time to eat when I get home because my cutoff time is 6:00. After 6 I eat nothing. So all the late-night snacking is over. ANd I'm doing some low intensity cardio at night.

 

[canbelto]

And I feel good knowing that I'm doing something about my weight problem. I think that's key. Before I was sitting around moping that I was injured and gaining weight. Now I know I'm taking action and feel better about myself.

 

[Aussie Willy]

Fitness goals: I hurt my ankle very badly while running in September and gained about 10 pounds I want to lose. I'm 5'4" and about 127 pounds right now.

Just was going to ask what your weight is and found it on your initial post.

You are basically the same height as me but 127 pounds (or 57 kilograms for metric) is a really healthy weight for someone of your height. Not overweight or underweight.

I probably weigh more than what I should (damn that menopause and I need to watch my serving sizes) but I am quite concerned that you think you need to lose any more weight than what you currently are. I found when I got to about 70kg (154 pounds) after radiation a few years ago was probably okay for me but I didn't need to lose any more. Women need a bit of fat for their health generally.

I don't place much stock in the BMI scale, but any less than what you are is venturing into underweight territory which is actually not very healthy either. Currently your BMI is 21.8 which is right in the middle of a healthy BMI.

Put it into skating terms - unless you are a pairs skater or ice dancer who needs to be picked up, you really are fine and do not need to lose any weight.

 

[taf2002]

I can understand feeling that I'm fat even when I'm not. To combat that I measure myself by my dress or pants size. Even if I feel fat or think I look fat I know that size 4 or even 6 is not a fat person. So it helps me relax about myself. Unfortunately I'm not a 4 or even a 6 right now but I'm determined to get there. And I'm trying not to use the word fat.

 

[canbelto]

I;m a size 2 but always used to be a size 0 so I feel fat. But I have very high standards for myself and my own behavior.

 

[canbelto]

Just was going to ask what your weight is and found it on your initial post.

You are basically the same height as me but 127 pounds (or 57 kilograms for metric) is a really healthy weight for someone of your height. Not overweight or underweight.

I probably weigh more than what I should (damn that menopause and I need to watch my serving sizes) but I am quite concerned that you think you need to lose any more weight than what you currently are. I found when I got to about 70kg (154 pounds) after radiation a few years ago was probably okay for me but I didn't need to lose any more. Women need a bit of fat for their health generally.

I don't place much stock in the BMI scale, but any less than what you are is venturing into underweight territory which is actually not very healthy either. Currently your BMI is 21.8 which is right in the middle of a healthy BMI.

Put it into skating terms - unless you are a pairs skater or ice dancer who needs to be picked up, you really are fine and do not need to lose any weight.

im very small boned though so weight just goes to my belly. But also, I’m Asian. Standards for Asian women are different. Asian women are considered fat if they’re normal weight.

 

[ballettmaus]

^That they are considered fat does not mean that you have to consider yourself fat or that it should just be accepted as a given and not questioned.

 

[Aussie Willy]

Try menopause. Everything goes to your belly.

 

[Japanfan]

I;m a size 2 but always used to be a size 0 so I feel fat. But I have very high standards for myself and my own behavior.

I think you should perhaps consider relaxing those standards. You'll be back to running soon or fairly soon, and the extra weight will probably take care of itself.

One of the things I have enjoyed about aging is becoming less concerned with weight.

 

[Justlooking]

im very small boned though so weight just goes to my belly. But also, I’m Asian. Standards for Asian women are different. Asian women are considered fat if they’re normal weight.

You are basically the same height as me but 127 pounds (or 57 kilograms for metric) is a really healthy weight for someone of your height. Not overweight or underweight.

I don't place much stock in the BMI scale, but any less than what you are is venturing into underweight territory which is actually not very healthy either. Currently your BMI is 21.8 which is right in the middle of a healthy BMI.

You are actually right about asian weight. You shouldn't use the normal international BMI. Most asian countries have their own BMI scale.

There are many articles about this phenomena

Asians On A Different Obesity Scale

Millions Of Asians Are Obese Despite Small Frames

www.cbsnews.com

Asian BMI Calculator

aadi.joslin.org

Overweight for non asian people is > 25, but for asian, it is > 23.

So you're still healthy

 

[canbelto]

You are actually right about asian weight. You shouldn't use the normal international BMI. Most asian countries have their own BMI scale.

There are many articles about this phenomena

Asians On A Different Obesity Scale

Millions Of Asians Are Obese Despite Small Frames

www.cbsnews.com

Asian BMI Calculator

aadi.joslin.org

Overweight for non asian people is > 25, but for asian, it is > 23.

So you're still healthy

There's medically healthy and then there's culturally healthy. Asian women are expected to be very thin and petite. If you are over a size 0 you're already considered fat. I look at all the Asian models and feel like a whale.

 

[Japanfan]

There's medically healthy and then there's culturally healthy. Asian women are expected to be very thin and petite. If you are over a size 0 you're already considered fat. I look at all the Asian models and feel like a whale.

It's far more important to be medically healthy than culturally healthy, which can actually mean unhealthy.

I worked with many Chinese China-born female clients over the years I worked with clients in person as a tutor (am primarily an editor) and many of them are/were certainly not Size 0. Some even brought along a snack or lunch, and ate their food in front of me.

Beauty standards for women in many parts of the world have been/are unrealistic and punitive (even thin women wore corsets, and today wear Spanx). So many beautiful young women with beautiful bodies torture themselves over weight (I know, I was one of them). I do understand the importance of maintaining a healthy weight, but it looks to me like you are striving for a weight goal that could be hard to maintain - although maybe not once you can be active again. And ultimately, won't really make you any more beautiful.

For now maybe just love yourself and repeat over and over the affirmation 'I am beautiful just as I am'.

While young women torture themselves over weight, the pleasure to be taken in youth and all that goes with it is lost. As the saying goes: It is a shame that the wisdom of life is often wasted on the young.

 

[taf2002]

I think Michelle Kwan has always been a model for healthy weight. Anytime she has spoken about what she eats it's healthy & gives her the fuel for her sports. When she was competing she was 5'1" & weighed 105 lbs which is not stick thin. The fact that she's almost 40 & still has the same figure is a testament to the value of a healthy diet & exercise, not starving yourself which leads to yo-yo-ing.

 

[AJ Skatefan]

On Weight Watchers you eat regular food at normal times and don’t feel miserable and still lose weight. I don’t understand the need to torture yourself.

 

[Desperado]

While young women torture themselves over weight, the pleasure to be taken in youth and all that goes with it is lost. As the saying goes: It is a shame that the wisdom of life is often wasted on the young.

And if I learned any wisdom from being on disability and seeing my youth and thinness far behind, is that I wish I had concentrated over the years on counting my money instead of my calories.

 

[canbelto]

On Weight Watchers you eat regular food at normal times and don’t feel miserable and still lose weight. I don’t understand the need to torture yourself.

Weight Watchers costs money, while fasting is free. Actually fasting saves me money as I no longer spend money on snacks.

 

[Prancer]

There's medically healthy and then there's culturally healthy.

There's medically healthy and unhealthy.

 

[canbelto]

There's medically healthy and unhealthy.

Heh. Try telling an Asian woman that anything besides being super petite is acceptable. You cant even go home to your family without dreading the comments.

 

[hanca]

Heh. Try telling an Asian woman that anything besides being super petite is acceptable. You cant even go home to your family without dreading the comments.

Maybe you should start practising the art of not giving a sh*t about what other people think. It maybe hard at the beginning, but you can’t imagine how liberating feeling it is when you eventually become proficient in this.

 

[Prancer]

Heh. Try telling an Asian woman that anything besides being super petite is acceptable. You cant even go home to your family without dreading the comments.

So it's your family that is making you starve yourself for hours on end? They want you to feel faint and sick?

Comments won't kill you; an eating disorder can. What does your therapist tell you about that?

 

[canbelto]

So it's your family that is making you starve yourself for hours on end? They want you to feel faint and sick?

Comments won't kill you; an eating disorder can. What does your therapist tell you about that?

Its not them. But its pressure I put on myself. I want to like looking in the mirror. I dont want to look "8 months pregnant" as my friend recently said I looked. I hold myself to high standards of behavior in every aspect of life.

 

[Prancer]

I hold myself to high standards of behavior in every aspect of life.

Is that what you call making yourself lightheaded and sick--holding to high standards?

It's a good thing you have a therapist; I thnk you should talk to that person often. And I think for the sake of all concerned, it would be best if this conversation did not continue here.