Intermittent fasting and other dieting trends

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canbelto said:
I've lost a lot of muscle since my injury. I used to run about 7k a day and now my legs are like sticks.
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Maybe you should try the Juven. It was my doctors that prescribed it so I could rebuild my muscle, and like I mentioned, it helped to heal my wound.
 
canadianskater said:
A coworker and I did IF for a little bit before Christmas and I really liked it. I work in an office environment so I feel like I'm constantly sitting and eating. It did worked well and I did loose weight while fasting although I only ate between the hours of 11 - 7. It forced me to drink more water but I was becoming obsessed with the clock. Looking at it constantly to see how long before I could eat. Right now I'm just counting calories on my fitness pal and exercising on a regular basis but I may go back to IF in the coming weeks.
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one thing I struggle with is how slowly time goes by when I'm fasting. I guess because you're hungry. But the two hours between 8-10 when I'm working but not eating are the worst.
 
canbelto said:
one thing I struggle with is how slowly time goes by when I'm fasting. I guess because you're hungry. But the two hours between 8-10 when I'm working but not eating are the worst.
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Could you change your working hours and start working at 10?
 
canbelto said:
one thing I struggle with is how slowly time goes by when I'm fasting. I guess because you're hungry. But the two hours between 8-10 when I'm working but not eating are the worst.
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Again, perhaps you should consider alternatives to this particular way of losing weight. There are other diets that are less extreme that might work a lot better for you without this torture.
 
Don't do intermittent fasting if it makes you feel miserable.

I did intermittent fasting, some days 18:6, other days 20:4, years ago and it worked best on days when I was so busy I couldn't think about food during the day. So I would have dinner and then a snack. I never really got used to it though and would often feel faint and shaky in the afternoons. Ultimately decided it wasn't worth it.
 
taf2002 said:
If your legs are like sticks & you can't run your usual distance why are you doing this?
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Because the weight I've gained since getting injured has gone to my belly and there's nothing grosser than belly fat.

ETA: I've just been reading article after article about how great fasting feels and how you don't even think about food. And I wonder why I'm not like the people who write the articles.
 
canbelto said:
Because the weight I've gained since getting injured has gone to my belly and there's nothing grosser than belly fat.

ETA: I've just been reading article after article about how great fasting feels and how you don't even think about food. And I wonder why I'm not like the people who write the articles.
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Because they are lying.
 
Well I was thinking that even with an injured ankle I can probably do bicycles at the gym right? Just running is out of the question for me.
 
canbelto said:
ETA: I've just been reading article after article about how great fasting feels and how you don't even think about food. And I wonder why I'm not like the people who write the articles.
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Because a lot of people like to brag, and they like to brag about things that are hard for most people. Often times, they're not being completely honest. You know the "I got 100 on that really hard vector calculus test and I barely studied" or the "I have these abs because I do 500 sit ups a day" when in reality they pulled 6 all nighters cramming while also getting lucky with the questions and instead of 500 sit ups they do no more than 50 (or none at all) but they just happen to have thick abs naturally.

Likewise, it's hard to go without food for an extended period of time for many people. So, say I'll go another 36 hours without eating, then I'll just tell people "man I feel great, I could do this every day" when in reality I'm thinking "why tf do I feel like I want to punch people in the face every two seconds."
 
canbelto said:
ETA: I've just been reading article after article about how great fasting feels and how you don't even think about food. And I wonder why I'm not like the people who write the articles.
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The people I know of who do well on IF pay a lot of attention to meeting their protein and fat macros when they do eat. Going by your description of what you are eating, you are not getting enough protein and fat--and that's without even knowing how many calories you are actually getting (I'm thinking not enough, but I don't know)

As I said before, lots of people on my low-carb community try and fail at IF because they don't eat enough because, in their rush to lose weight, they combine IF with other reduction strategies, like cutting calories and fat. If you are going to do IF, you have to eat for it and get enough calories and nutrients to get you through the times when you are not eating.
 
Lilia A said:
Likewise, it's hard to go without food for an extended period of time for many people. So, say I'll go another 36 hours without eating, then I'll just tell people "man I feel great, I could do this every day" when in reality I'm thinking "why tf do I feel like I want to punch people in the face every two seconds."
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In fact , I did some real fasting. ( not eating at all) .
And you just don't to want eat afterwards. Food just doesn't interest you anymore. It is quite an interesting experience. It can be hard to get there, but once you've gotten to this stage, it's incredibly easy, so you forgot how hard it was :)
For normal fasting ( just water) you get to this point after 2 or three days.

For those who wrote the articles I suspect is that they've gotten used to it so now it seems natural.

Did you eat plenty of sugar, coffee or addictive substances before starting the fasting ?
 
Justlooking said:
In fact , I did some real fasting. ( not eating at all) .
And you just don't to want eat afterwards.
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Same, and that's why I said "it's hard for many people" rather than "hard for everyone" or even "hard for most." Everyone is different and what works for me doesn't have to work for the rest. I do well on 16-20 hours, but after that I get tachycardic. I'm not hungry though, I just feel like crap.
 
Justlooking said:
In fact , I did some real fasting. ( not eating at all) .
And you just don't to want eat afterwards. Food just doesn't interest you anymore. It is quite an interesting experience. It can be hard to get there, but once you've gotten to this stage, it's incredibly easy, so you forgot how hard it was :)
For normal fasting ( just water) you get to this point after 2 or three days.

For those who wrote the articles I suspect is that they've gotten used to it so now it seems natural.

Did you eat plenty of sugar, coffee or addictive substances before starting the fasting ?
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Unfortunately caffeine and sugar are my vices. I dont drink or smoke.
 
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canbelto said:
Because the weight I've gained since getting injured has gone to my belly and there's nothing grosser than belly fat.
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Canbelto you are being so very hard on yourself! Can you quit beating up on yourself for just a bit and try a little self-love?

There are things grosser than belly fat, and there are worse things than gaining 10 pounds (though I do understand how distressing that can be). You can lose the weight without suffering so much.

When can you get back to running?
 
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Japanfan said:
Canbelto you are being so very hard on yourself! Can you quit beating up on yourself for just a bit and try a little self-love?

There are things grosser than belly fat, and there are worse things than gaining 10 pounds (though I do understand how distressing that can be). You can lose the weight without suffering so much.

When can you get back to running?
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I've been doing physical therapy for a few months. My balance is still horrible. I tore two ligaments, had a broken metatarsal, tendonitis, cysts, you name it. I'm so glad I can do LIFE things now (for awhile walking from the fridge to the bed was painful). But the PT says running is probably not a good idea for another month or so. I just feel so distressed that not only have I lost muscle, I've gained weight, and I feel flabby all over. I went from basically eating whatever I wanted because I could just run it off to not being able to walk long distances.
 
canbelto said:
I've been doing physical therapy for a few months. My balance is still horrible. I tore two ligaments, had a broken metatarsal, tendonitis, cysts, you name it. I'm so glad I can do LIFE things now (for awhile walking from the fridge to the bed was painful). But the PT says running is probably not a good idea for another month or so. I just feel so distressed that not only have I lost muscle, I've gained weight, and I feel flabby all over. I went from basically eating whatever I wanted because I could just run it off to not being able to walk long distances.
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You'll get the muscle back and lose the weight once you are healed. Be patient, be kind to yourself.

I second the suggestions for different types of exercise.
 
canbelto said:
I've been doing physical therapy for a few months. My balance is still horrible. I tore two ligaments, had a broken metatarsal, tendonitis, cysts, you name it. I'm so glad I can do LIFE things now (for awhile walking from the fridge to the bed was painful). But the PT says running is probably not a good idea for another month or so. I just feel so distressed that not only have I lost muscle, I've gained weight, and I feel flabby all over. I went from basically eating whatever I wanted because I could just run it off to not being able to walk long distances.
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Okay. This is how I look at your situation. There are exercises that you can do, and I'm sure you do some of them during PT. You can do some of those exercises at home. You can sit and still use 5 lb. dumbbells. You can also get some of the exercise rubber bands. They're about 3 feet long and 4 inches wide. You can use those in various ways like arm stretches and leg stretches.

I found an article that has a list of several exercises you can do.

33 Resistance Band Exercises

I had to stay in a nursing facility for one whole year because of the disease I had. I lost over 60 percent of the flesh on my left leg. It had to be debrided (cut off) from the back of my upper thigh, behind the knee all the way down to about 2 inches above my heel because of a flesh-eating disease called Necrotizing Fasciitis. It caused my left foot and ankle to turn inward because it messed up my Achilles tendon. It also caused a lot of nerve damage.

That flesh will never grow back, and my foot and ankle will always be the way it is now. The nursing facility I had to stay at had PT and occupational therapy. I was bedridden for about the first three months, and part of the reason was because I had to have a wound vac.

That first three months my PT consisted of those exercise rubber bands. I was also taking Juven the whole time. Those exercise bands helped to strengthen my arm muscles and my leg muscles. I began PT after the three months, and I had enough upper body strength by then to get in my wheelchair without any assistance.

In PT, I sat in my wheelchair and used the dumbbells. I still used those exercise rubberbands, too. I would put the rubber band around the foot and stretch out with it. When I was finally able to use the walker, they put ankle weights on me, and I had to walk like that. I started out only being able to walk about 20 feet down the hall and back, and eventually, I was able to walk all the way down the whole hallway and back before I tired out.

They also made me sit and use the Nordic Track. It really helped me to build my muscles back. I still have the upper body strength because I use my walker quite a lot now. I use it everyday to get around, and people would be surprised how many calories I burn because my right leg and right side of my body has to support most of my weight now. I also burn a lot of calories using the wheelchair. It's easy to use on a hardwood floor, but it's hard to use on carpet. My home has carpet in every room except for my kitchen. There's carpet even down my hallway.

I'll never be able to run again, but I still stay in shape by doing all the things I mentioned. It's actually like a workout for me everyday just by using my wheelchair and walker.

I wish you would consider doing something else, and stop the fasting. There are so many ways you can work out at home by using those exercise bands, and even some light weight dumbbells would help in working on your upper body strength and your arm muscles.

Also consider taking the Juven, drinking plenty of natural fruit juices without sugar, and take vitamin supplements. I'm simply saying please consider your health and give your body the nourishment it needs.
 
canbelto said:
I've been doing physical therapy for a few months. My balance is still horrible. I tore two ligaments, had a broken metatarsal, tendonitis, cysts, you name it. I'm so glad I can do LIFE things now (for awhile walking from the fridge to the bed was painful). But the PT says running is probably not a good idea for another month or so. I just feel so distressed that not only have I lost muscle, I've gained weight, and I feel flabby all over. I went from basically eating whatever I wanted because I could just run it off to not being able to walk long distances.
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We are all allowed to have a break from routines to recover from whatever injuries or treatment that may befall us. It is a matter of accepting it and going along with it and not being too hard on ourselves. You will recover and get back to doing what you used to do. The body will deal with it.
 
canbelto said:
Ketosis?
But update: I'm still on 16/8 but know to make my last meal full of protein. Mornings still hard. I'm trying some low intensity cardio now like jumping jacks.
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If you want to lose weight with ketosis, wouldn’t it be easier to go on high protein very low carbs diet? At least you won’t have the feeling that you are starving. It is a bit boring, at least initially before you figure out various dishes you can make and find out which of them you enjoy, but you don’t need to feel hungry at all. And it works.
 
hanca said:
If you want to lose weight with ketosis, wouldn’t it be easier to go on high protein very low carbs diet? At least you won’t have the feeling that you are starving. It is a bit boring, at least initially before you figure out various dishes you can make and find out which of them you enjoy, but you don’t need to feel hungry at all. And it works.
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The thing is I have tried high protein/low carb and can't do it. I love fruits and rice and other carbs too much. Sometimes I even allow myself a slice of cake. I'm not putting butter in my coffee. I'd rather get in the rhythm of this fasting and get my body into ketosis rather than try to eat an all protein no carb diet.
 
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