clairecloutier
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I thought I'd cross-post this from the OES News thread. An article about Jones/Boyadji--how their partnership started, and their lives today.
I thought I'd cross-post this from the OES News thread. An article about Jones/Boyadji--how their partnership started, and their lives today.
I'm really sick of the whole "If the skater isn't smiling, she must be an entitled, arrogant snob!" narrative.
Eh, I never said "if the skater isn't smiling, they must be entitled, arrogant snobs..." I qualified everything I said, and I didn't reference T/M or P/J as being petulant. I actually said that IMO Boi/Kos don't exhibit expressions that are 'overly petulant or arrogant.' It's my opinion that Pavluchenko's expression in the kiss 'n cry at SA bordered on petulance, which doesn't mean it's an accurate reading. I also pointed out that putting on a competitive game face is often utilized by athletes. The defiant and/or defensive expressions I detected on the faces of P/K and M/G I qualified may have a lot to do with the competitive difficulty of battling amidst a deep pairs field in their country.
But it's par for the course to ignore the context of my commentary, and for certain selected comments of mine to be heavily misread, exaggerated and/ or willfully misinterpreted. The fact that there's an emotional component in how most fans perceive the sport lends itself to taking offence to commentary seen as overly critical or harsh toward particular faves. Since I'm a fan of pairs skating, I enjoy any performance that's brilliant. I'm simply waiting for T/M and P/J to do more with the talents they possess. Recently, they have been disappointing, despite being highly regarded by the judges. And my view of M/G and P/K is that they have a lot more work to do to be well-rounded, despite getting off to relatively good starts in their senior debuts, in a season where some top pairs aren't competing on the GP. Sui/Han haven't competed on the GP for three seasons, but at least they are back this season as a top, veteran team.
It hasn't been a very exciting GP in pairs so far. I too look forward to seeing how Stolbova/ Novoselov will fare. Perhaps Rostelecom Cup will be a more well-skated competition on this season's GP.
No it's always been Te Amo. It's a kind of different cover of it though.Did T/M change their FS music? I don't like Te amo, and I can't remember disliking their FS this season
Assuming they've got the aborted lifts under control (fingers crossed for tomorrow), I don't think their performance today was different from what they were regularly doing last season.I don’t know what the answer is for t/m, but I don’t think Florida is helping anything. They fared better with Max last season.
This season is pretty FUBAR at this point, but they have to stop the bleeding. They’re going to have over a month before they compete again after this is done. Maybe they should stay put in Russia, beg Mozer, and maybe that will get them to top 3 at nationals. Otherwise, they go into next season limping even more.
I thought the Germans were kind of robbed.
It is not just the throw, though. The lift was really bad in real time - a real struggle and kind of scary. They got a UR in the Salchow and also had low levels in the step and the death spiral. No level 4 on any element. I remember they struggled with the lifts in SLC, and so did everyone else, but for them, maybe it’s a bigger issue. The quality was not there at all. I also think her basics are shockingly bad for this level. Plus, they have zero performance quality or connection.I thought L/M's score was rather low, even with Lu's fall on the throw. L/M do need to gain more experience and learn how to project more, and not rush their elements.
And it was a bit of home-cooking for S/N
Home-cooking? Some of the judges literally gave them 7s in PCS. I know they’re a new team and skated in the first warm-up group, but if anything, I would say their score was too low, not too high. Maybe Hase/Seegert deserved a slightly higher score, but I wouldn’t say S/N’s scores were home-cooked at all. Just my two cents.
Eh, I'm not picking on S/N. 7s on PCS is good for a newly paired team. While Stolbova may deserve higher PCS, her partner still needs to improve, just as Bruno Massot had to improve when he paired with Aliona. So keeping that example in mind, I think there's hope for Novoselov. He's come a long way already.
The top scores were high in general, and most certainly generous, IMO. It's not as if skating at home doesn't help skaters. We see it happen all the time to varying degrees, especially in Russia. It happened in Canada too. I know you are a huge fan of Stolbova, and thus eager to see her excel in this new pairing. It's all subjective and relative the way we individually view the scoring. It would be nice if the scoring in figure skating was more reliable and less political, but it's a fact of life that scoring is generally problematic.
For e.g., it's arguable that Boi/Koz deserved higher PCS at Skate Canada, but they seemed to be held down slightly compared to a bit better PCS scores in Russia when I think their sp at Skate Canada was performed a bit better. They were still very good in both competitions, and deserve to be leading. Perhaps between 76 to 78 is fair for them in the sp, as they have improved since last season. I think 80+ is overly high because they still have room for growth, and this is not necessarily the best they will or can skate this program. It was cool of Koz holding it together after the fall in the warm-up. That's determination! Still, that's a high score, and I think T/M's score was high for how they skated too.
In general, pairs scores have crept up exceedingly high with no rhyme or reason -- except maybe the way GOEs are handed out.
S/N's score was a bit high for being a new team and having some miscues. Stolbova is obviously stronger than her partner, but he's coming along in trying to match her strengths. They seem to have good potential to improve with more time together, but the jury is still out. I'm not surprised to see S/N in front of H/S because Stolbova is a high quality, champion skater and she's skating at home. Novoselov still needs to catch up to Stolbova though. Sure, he's made progress.
That was a good skate by H/S but I don't think they are at Stolbova's level. It's just that S/N were not perfect this time out and right now Novoselov is the weak link. Therefore, it is arguable regarding the placements between the two teams, but the scores are close. It's inevitable that emotions enter into how results are viewed for fans of either team. To be honest, I'm not the one who suggested H/S should be in third. I only responded by saying, 'maybe.'
I guess I was just surprised to see their PCS 3 points lower than T/M,
The judges love T/M. Maybe they get PCS for their beauty and the top-notch tech skills the judges know they possess, even though we haven't been seeing consistent performances from them recently. We've never seen exciting performances by T/M. They have not yet found the best music to bring out something special -- maybe they never will. But T/M always receive overly high PCS, in particular on CO and IN, which are categories where they definitely DO NOT excel. The judges don't care. They will continue to manipulate PCS whichever way they please, sadly. Once again though, Stol/Novo have a way to go to earn higher PCS as a team. They can't reward Stolbova just because she's a badass diva.
Samarin is another skater who receives astounding PCS which don't match his meager abilities in certain PCS categories. He's much more of a tech virtuoso. Samarin received slightly higher PCS than Deniss Vasiljevs, for example. That's ridiculous, despite Samarin's modest improvements in smoothing out his skating and finding music that works for his personality. I know this is pairs thread, sorry.
I just read it after it was linked elsewhere. Thanks for sharing their story, @clairecloutier - I had no idea they were facing so many challenges just to be able to train, let alone compete. You have to really love skating to continue like thatI thought I'd cross-post this from the OES News thread. An article about Jones/Boyadji--how their partnership started, and their lives today.
T/M now have to wait to see what happens in Japan.
This is pairs, so teams' scores are only as good as how their jumps and throws go. The politicking certainly matters, but it's much more around the margins than with something like ice dance.Worlds are in Canada. I suspect they’ll be pushing hard in Japan for M-T/M to get to the final to set them up to push for the podium at worlds.