Hold on to your fascinators, it could be a snarky ride! It's Royal Wedding Day! Wheeee!

Vagabond said:
Precisely, even though I have known brides whose "something borrowed" was the dress.

And it probably wouldn't have occurred to any women who weren't actresses to try to get a designer to lend them a dress for the occasion. It is not the done thing.
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I think you'd be surprised who gets free dresses then. And not just for "red carpet" events.
Actresses, musicians, athletes, models, socialites, bloggers, spouses of all the above.

Do you want me to start providing links about people with comped clothing? And those are just the ones talking about it. Whether or not for THIS occasion, basically anyone in the public eye is able to request dresses from designers, and many often do. This in particular was a HUGE occasion with incredible media coverage. Designers would be falling over themselves to get their clothes seen on guests.
 
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clairecloutier said:
Wonder when the honeymoon will be.
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Frida80 said:
Now that Phillip is retired and Will and Kate have a newborn, they may wait a few weeks until William can assume more royal duties before taking off.
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My mom said she heard that they will although, not because of the baby and the retirement but because they hope they can "slip away" quietly at some point.
 
Skittl1321 said:
I think you'd be surprised who gets free dresses then. And not just for "red carpet" events.
Actresses, musicians, athletes, models, socialites, bloggers, spouses of all the above.
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For the most part, it's provided for entertainment industry events, which are, by definition, meant to promote the entertainment industry. It would be extremely unusual for a designer to lend a Hollywood actress for a private event such as dinner party or a wedding.

It is basic wedding etiquette not to upstage the bride. The rule applies to actresses and clothing designers just as much as to anyone else.
 
Hi all! Long weekend in Canada, blessedly offline the entire time.

Loved Meghan's dress, so timeless, elegant. Agree with whoever said no need for bling when you are wearing a tiara from the Queen's own collection! Thought the veil was particularly fabulous. Two minds on the hair - during the formal part of the ceremony, I didn't like the stray strands, but once it was over and they were outside, I loved it. Makeup was fine, perhaps heavy on the lashes as is the current fashion (so may look dated in a few years) but I did think she was too dewy. Needed a bit of powder!

If we're comparing, I loved Kate's too, because it's was so regal. In 400 years people will look at her wedding portrait and think how great she looked, perfect for a future queen. Diana OTOH :scream:. At the time I loved it, but IMO now it looks quite ridiculous.

Back to Meghan, what really struck me is how relaxed she seemed. So natural, enjoying herself (I did not think she looked uncomfortable during the sermon, I thought she looked at times amused and proud of her choice), and I guess it takes an actress to deliver her vows so clearly, confidently and beautifully.

Harry and William - adore! I've said a million times but those guys can pull off any manner of formal dress and uniforms like no one else. I did think Harry looked very nervous the entire time, in a happy way.

Little kids - proud Canadian moment! Loved the twins helping with her train, in tears seeing the older boys help the littlest girls along. I'm not normally a fan of children in the wedding party, but this has changed my mind.

Charlotte all diva, George all whatever. Love them!

Others - Pippa looked great IMO, loved Kate's look but I have to say I'm finding her looking a bit puffy this past year, particularly around the eyes. Allergies maybe? ADORE Camilla's style in a kind of f*ck you I'm a Duchess and this is how I like to dress. Beatrice and Eugenie disappointed me :wuzrobbed

Charles looked wonderful I thought, and I was very touched by the way he stepped up for Meghan, and the way he seemed to look out for poor Doria all alone. Gayle King said at one point that she wished Doria at least had a friend by her side. Must have been an overwhelming day, perhaps very lonely at times. She looked fabulous though.

Gayle also had one of the best LOLs for me too when they were reviewing past weddings and someone recalled how Pippa's butt stole the show, and Gayle was all like "I don't know what y'all are talking about because that's not much of a butt if you ask me."

Celebs - I thought I liked Amal, but she could NOT stop fidgetting with her hair! Came off as very pose pose look at me, which I've never thought of her. Love Posh's pout - I've read and seen enough interviews to know she's actually a very funny person, and she did light up quite a bit when she was greeting friends. Didn't like the orange dress - too attention getting IMO.

Sermon - SOOO surprised to read all the hate here!! I thought it was good, suitable for what they were trying to express. I thought the looks on William, Beatrice, Eugenie et al was because they must've been dying to turn around and see what Gran thought of it all!

Cellist, :swoon: but the absolute highlight for me was the Kingdom Choir! Fantastic arrangement, stunning delivery, and they all looked so great. Best part of the musical program.

And on a truly important note, the scones that I got up to bake at 4:00 am were delicious :drama:
 
Vagabond said:
It is basic wedding etiquette not to upstage the bride. The rule applies to actresses and clothing designers just as much as to anyone else.
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Did someone upstage the bride? I am not aware
 
Dresses are loaned for Hollywood-type events because the celebrities will be asked "what are you wearing?" so it's good PR for the designers. At a wedding no one will be asked this. So they knew they may not get the credit.

There was nothing said in the article about Janina that indicates she asked for a comped dress. She asked to be dressed for the event. Some or all of the designers asked may not do daytime clothes or they were too busy or Janina didn't give them enough notice. Or as I said above, they knew the guests would probably not be asked about their clothes.
 
Vagabond said:
For the most part, it's provided for entertainment industry events, which are, by definition, meant to promote the entertainment industry. It would be extremely unusual for a designer to lend a Hollywood actress for a private event such as dinner party or a wedding.

It is basic wedding etiquette not to upstage the bride. The rule applies to actresses and clothing designers just as much as to anyone else.
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It would not be unusual at all for someone to be lent a dress for a "private" event if entry to that event is likely to be photographed. Heck- even top bloggers get freebies to wear in exchange for instagram photos, a celebrity will get the same if there is likely to be any coverage of what they are wearing.

Tara Lipinski was comped a dress for her engagement party in exchange for photos of the event. That's not an entertainment industry event, and she isn't exactly an A-lister.
Heather Mills's wedding dress was comped by for publicity, and then it was dragged through the mud because they felt like they didn't get named enough.
This list could go on for awhile if you really want me to, though, since these transactions are discrete, it certainly wouldn't be inclusive of everyone who has received a comp for a non-red carpet event. But it isn't that hard to dig up articles with examples.

This wedding may have been a "private" event based on invitation, but nothing about walking into it was "private". You aren't going to hear the arrangements that people had with designers to have loans or comps to wear. It isn't usually public what the agreement is to wear a designers dress gratis, whether the star also has to post on instagram and tag, whether they just need to wear it, etc. These aren't usually bespoke pieces, but things lent out of the collection.

Wearing a designer isn't upstaging the bride. No one there upstaged her. But almost everyone was in a "name". I have no idea why whether or not someone paid for the dress would have anything to do with upstaging the bride.
 
taf2002 said:
Dresses are loaned for Hollywood-type events because the celebrities will be asked "what are you wearing?" so it's good PR for the designers. At a wedding no one will be asked this. So they knew they may not get the credit.
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And yet every fashion report seems to know what shoes, hat, handbag, jewelry or dress nearly every woman is wearing.

Hmmm...wonder how that happens? It's like magazines have interns doing frantic research and/or the designers put out PR to the major publishers or something? You're right- they certainly weren't asking "who are you wearing" as they walked in, but it's all out there. This was a major designer event.
 
Vagabond said:
And it probably wouldn't have occurred to any women who weren't actresses to try to get a designer to lend them a dress for the occasion. It is not the done thing.
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Really? Because I saw a lot of designer dresses and it was pretty clear that a lot of them were comped.

Vagabond said:
It is basic wedding etiquette not to upstage the bride. The rule applies to actresses and clothing designers just as much as to anyone else.
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And how was the bride upstaged by this? It was one comment in one article after the wedding. The actual dress was not upstaging in any way. Unlike a few others that were worn that people commented on being a bit much.

taf2002 said:
Dresses are loaned for Hollywood-type events because the celebrities will be asked "what are you wearing?" so it's good PR for the designers. At a wedding no one will be asked this. So they knew they may not get the credit.
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You people are killing me. This was not some private wedding with a limited guest invite that no one cares about except the couple. The whole thing was televised all over the world! Everyone wanted to know who was wearing what. Whole articles were written about who wore what. With pictures. Any designer would love to have their name associated with this wedding and its guests. Well, if it's a white woman who is normal-sized anyway.

But it's always thus. People who are discriminated against dare to talk about it and people rush in to come up with a hundred excuses for why it's not racism or size-ism or any other kind of prejudice. You can excuse this one instance because one instance doesn't make a pattern but the pattern is there.
 
MacMadame said:
Really? Because I saw a lot of designer dresses and it was pretty clear that a lot of them were comped.
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How in the world was that clear?

You people are killing me. This was not some private wedding with a limited guest invite that no one cares about except the couple. The whole thing was televised all over the world! Everyone wanted to know who was wearing what. Whole articles were written about who wore what. With pictures. Any designer would love to have their name associated with this wedding and its guests. Well, if it's a white woman who is normal-sized anyway.

But it's always thus. People who are discriminated against dare to talk about it and people rush in to come up with a hundred excuses for why it's not racism or size-ism or any other kind of prejudice. You can excuse this one instance because one instance doesn't make a pattern but the pattern is there .
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I'm not denying that there is racism, although in this particular instance it doesn't seem like it to me. Janina's stylist mentioned other events that Janina has received comped clothes. And FTR, I have read tons of articles about this wedding & I have no idea who was wearing what except for Oprah Winfrey, & that is only because Gayle King (Oprah's bestie) gave out that info.
 
taf2002 said:
How in the world was that clear?



I'm not denying that there is racism, although in this particular instance it doesn't seem like it to me. Janina's stylist mentioned other events that Janina has received comped clothes. And FTR, I have read tons of articles about this wedding & I have no idea who was wearing what except for Oprah Winfrey, & that is only because Gayle King (Oprah's bestie) gave out that info.
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Tons of articles like this out there that tell you what people are wearing.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celeb...an-markle-prince-harry-royal-wedding/?slide=1



Personally, I assume anyone who hashtags a designer or stylist on instagram (or is featured by the designer on their own instagram as publicity) probably was comped or received a significant discount. Celebrities, even minor ones, don't do that for free.
 
@Skittl1321, I would be fascinated to know why you are so fascinated with the comping (or not) of dresses that you have posted multiple times on that subject.
 
Jenny said:
If we're comparing, I loved Kate's too, because it's was so regal. In 400 years people will look at her wedding portrait and think how great she looked, perfect for a future queen. Diana OTOH :scream:. At the time I loved it, but IMO now it looks quite ridiculous.
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I agree that Kate's wedding dress is a look that will stand the test of time. It was just a perfect choice, classic yet interesting. As to Diana--I have to admit, I am still quite fond of her wedding dress. I think it's because I'm a child of the late 70s/early 80s, and it was one of the first wedding dresses I really remember seeing. I still love the romanticism of the look, even if certain aspects are a bit dated now.


Others - Pippa looked great IMO, loved Kate's look but I have to say I'm finding her looking a bit puffy this past year, particularly around the eyes. Allergies maybe?
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I believe it's more likely the effects of pregnancy/childbirth that have been showing with Kate. She may still be nursing and up every few hours right now.
 
VALuvsMKwan said:
@Skittl1321, I would be fascinated to know why you are so fascinated with the comping (or not) of dresses that you have posted multiple times on that subject.
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I'm just interested in what people wear.
I started posting about it because I didn't think it was all inappropriate for the actress in the orange who said that the way she got to that outfit was because fashion houses would not dress her (note she didn't say comp her, though that may have been what she meant) and this was kind of a last resort. Some people thought it was out of bounds for her to say something like that, and it was ridiculous for her to think someone SHOULD dress her. But designers, in general, seem to be less likely to dress people of color or plus size- that's been called out in recent years, I mentioned that.

I think it is funny that people think that an event like this wouldn't result in the (non-royals, as the royals can't accept freebies) wearing comps, because it is a "private event", when to the fashion world it is one of the premier events of the season. Yes, these are real people, with real lives who are friends of the couple, but as long as there are cameras, they are essentially hangers to designers advertising their clothes. To think this is only a private wedding, that's naive. To think dresses are only comped for huge red carpet events to uber famous people, that's naive. It's a giant marketing strategy that people are apparently unaware of. That sort of marketing is also fascinating to me.

I've posted multiple times because other people keep talking about it. If there were no replies on the subject, I'd have nothing else to say on it.
 
ribbon said:
The problem with celebrities at the wedding is they all continue the story to stay in the news. Chopra took photos of her gown on the reception grounds, news has come out calling Serena Williams the queen of beer pong, and George Clooney danced with Kate and Meghan, etc.

that's not what the royal family will want...I imagine aside from the Clooneys and Oprah for charity purposes, Meghan will be leaving her Hollywood friends behind. Either that, or we will see a conflict between Harry and Meghan's team at Kensington and the staff at Buckingham emerge in the coming years.
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Yes, I noticed that and also one of the actors (I cannot remember the name just now) filmed the butlers handing out slippers to all the guests inside so they could get out of their uncomfortable shoes. I saw that and thought that might be a big no-no to film inside. Did any footage seep out of William and Kate's wedding party that night?

About the actress without designer duds: I remember her from "True Blood." She had a large part for a couple of seasons. And she has a resume so it isn't like she is totally unknown. She and her stylist did a fine job.

I do wonder about the "list" in Hollywood--London---Toronto: Who is A list? Is there A+, A, A- and the same with the B and C lists? Can you be A list if you work in television only? NEVERMIND.....back to the wedding.
 
Skittl1321 said:
Wasn't William at an event in Manchester though? So he's already working too. Not much of a paternity leave.
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William was at the Commonwealth church service the day after the baby was born. He has taken no real time off.

He lives in damned if you do, damned if you don't land for sure. If he takes time, people question his work ethic. If he doesn't take it, he's not spending enough time at home with his wife and new baby.
 
I think it was interesting that Fergie was reported to be "furious" that she wasn't invited to the family party at Frogmore House but reports of that party places her there. So was she invited in advance, invited at the church, or did she crash? BTW I also read that many of the guests who were invited to be on the grounds are now selling their goody bags on Ebay. One is listed for 27xx lbs. Tacky.
 
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