Retiring at the age of about twenty or so was the norm for female figure skaters even before the elimination of Compulsories. It might have hastened the departure of a few skaters who would otherwise have stayed on until the 1992 Olympics, but it didn't fundamentally change the length of elite skaters' careers.However, of the ladies who were competing in the 1980s with school figures, the goal seemed to be to get triple salchow and triple toe and maybe one other triple if you were a good jumper and otherwise aim to be well-rounded in other skills especially figures.
So most skaters who were already over 20 ca. 1990-91 had no incentive to continue with two or three triples. The younger girls coming on the scene ca. 1993-95 had been training as many triples as possible since juniors or before.
I agree with the commenter. Nassar is a shoe-in.
Carolina needs to get rid of the green unitard.
Nancy's looks were one of the reason she became touted as the "ice princess" and led to a lot of her endorsements. She also medalled with a lot of poor free skates (93 nats, 93 worlds, 92 Olympics (Tonya really should of got the bronze there), 92 worlds, 93 pro-am) and was given a lot of breaks because the usfs liked the way she looked. Nancy always came across as phony to me. I did see her live once (not by choice , she just happened to be on the winter coi tour that year with other pros) and Hamill was much older and skated much faster).
Tonya really was a much better skater than Nancy- too bad that wasn't all that mattered. Tonya was the better jumper, better spinner (which covers 6 of the required 8(at the time) elements in the short), had a lot more speed and power, could do the spiral without having to hold her leg, had an awesome ina bauer, and was more musical. She was inconsistent, and wasn't feminine (but that should not have mattered).
Nancy was very slow, had to hold her leg on the spiral, she did have a true lutz and was a decent jumper , her spins were poor, she came across as snooty and entitled, her footwork was so-so , her costumes were elegant but she also had a top name designer giving them to her, and the Scotvolds had more political clout with the usfsa and the judges than Rawlinson or Teachman did.
Nancy finished FIFTH at 1993 World's.
Correction: Vera Wang’s shocking pink costume won the sp, Nancy just happened to be there to steal what was rightfully Tonya’sTechnically she won the gold small medal for the SP..... ;-)
... Well, it certainly was not the PTB in US Figure Skating for Tara ... Apparently US Figure Skating basically said to Tara, "You have your gold medal. You can go now."
Well all three of those who got out quickly had won the Olympics, and Kostner and Butyrskaya don't have Olympic golds. Sotnikova couldn't even keep going after winning the Olympics, though she gave it the good college try.I also think Oksana and Tara turning pro at 15 and ever Kristi not going for a 2nd Olys, vs Caro and Maria still going at 30 has a lot to do with there being opportunities in the 90s that simply don’t exist anymore.
Well all three of those who got out quickly had won the Olympics, and Kostner and Butyrskaya don't have Olympic golds. Sotnikova couldn't even keep going after winning the Olympics, though she gave it the good college try.
It used to be that skaters couldn't wait to turn pro and cash in their chips; now no one ever retires because competitive skating is where the money is.
I meant Sotnikova couldn't keep going with competitive skating. Great that she's getting pro skating work I follow Volosozhar and Trankov on Instagram and they are always doing different skating shows.I recently saw a photo on Twitter of Sotnikova skating in one of Evgeny Plushenko's ice shows. I assume this appearance wasn't a one-off and that she's getting work in Russia.
I wonder how much of that was because of Tara and how much was because they didn't want to deal with her mother?
That courtroom outburst DEFINITELY didn't happen
I love the idea of a green unitard for her number. However it's an odd shade of green/chartreuse and the crotch area just looks weird.
I realize it's a movie and they have the right to tell the story they way they want, but if skating fans here got confused about whether or not she actually had a choice between jail or the sentence given, imagine what the non-skating fans who see the movie will think?
because it's really hard to make something great when the writing isn't there.
Any other scene and I would agree with you but for me this rewriting of history is important because it’s central to the whole artistic concept of the movie. In real life, Tonya willingly agreed to a plea in order to avoid jail time. In the movie she is tricked, and starts screaming that she’d rather go to prison than be banned. It’s like doing a movie about the civil war where Lincoln agrees that individual states can determine if they continue slavery or not. It’s not a plot simplification, it’s an alternative fact made in order to support a flimsy theory ie. Tonya as victim.This was an apparent plot device to simplify the "legal ramifications" and not make the audience sit through two different decisions by two different bodies (FBI/USFS) and have to explain why one was one punishment, the other a strip of titles and a ban. It was probably too confusing to write up. It simplifies her response to the punishments also. For the audience, most of whom do not know what we all know.
Other productions have melded different people into one character to advance the plot and simplify the film(s). Same here. I have no problem with it as long as people know, "IT IS ONLY A MOVIE."
Any other scene and I would agree with you but for me this rewriting of history is important because it’s central to the whole artistic concept of the movie. In real life, Tonya willingly agreed to a plea in order to avoid jail time. In the movie she is tricked, and starts screaming that she’d rather go to prison than be banned. It’s like doing a movie about the civil war where Lincoln agrees that individual states can determine if they continue slavery or not. It’s not a plot simplification, it’s an alternative fact made in order to support a flimsy theory ie. Tonya as victim.
It’s not a plot simplification, it’s an alternative fact made in order to support a flimsy theory ie. Tonya as victim.
Tara skipped out on Worlds and turned pro 2 months after the Olympics. She also had a $1.2 million contract with USFS to appear in pro-am events after the Olympics and she bolted on it, refusing to do any events that were not for just pro skaters. It was believed that Team Tara wanted nothing to do with her ever competing against Michelle again, lest she lose and "tarnish" her OGM in any way. Let's just say USFS was not lacking reason to be less than thrilled with her.