From Russia with love [#28]: Autumn to Winter 2017

[lala]

Mustafina’s name is Aliya, not Alina

Oh, my mistake! I knew it, I knew it! I don't know how could this have happened! Probably there was morning here..Maybe I have not woken up totally.
I read that Liza is Udmurt [/QUOTE]

 

[lala]

Alina isn't the same name as Alyona/Aljona.

They sound different for me.

 

[muffinplus]

According to the fsskate.ru site

Leonova's first name is Алёна, which, if I understand correctly, is pronounced Aliona/Aljona.

Zagitova's first name is Алина.

Berezhnaia's first name is Елена.

There are names with different spellings that are pronounced the same way, like Ann/Anne vs. similar and related names that are pronounced differently, like Anne/Anna.

Those are not pronounced the same way though.

 

[caseyedwards]

I always heard people announce Alena Leonova and aliona and it was because of good research.

 

[Sasha is DIVINE]

I always write Russian names with ë as yo instead. It makes things much less confusing.

 

[SmallFairy]

I always write Russian names with ë as yo instead. It makes things much less confusing.

Yes, me too. And it's Fëdor Klimov, right?

 

[Ka3sha]

Yes, me too. And it's Fëdor Klimov, right?

Right

 

[kwanfan1818]

Those are not pronounced the same way though.

That was my point.

 

[muffinplus]

That was my point.

OK my bad, I misread what you were saying.

 

[Vash01]

When will they announce the entries for the Russian nationals? Can't wait to see those competitions.

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

When will they announce the entries for the Russian nationals? Can't wait to see those competitions.

I will have to drink my way through Russian Nats

 

[rfisher]

I will have to drink my way through Russian Nats

And they start at 6 am my time. A good bloody Mary to start the day!

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

And they start at 6 am my time. A good bloody Mary to start the day!

 

[Ka3sha]

Anna Pogorilaya withdraws from Nationals due to injury, her season is over
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130009181.html

 

[Jeschke]

Anna Pogorilaya withdraws from Nationals due to injury, her season is over
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130009181.html

#comeback

 

[Finnice]

Anna Pogorilaya withdraws from Nationals due to injury, her season is over
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130009181.html

Poor Pogo. She is my favourite Russian lady. Wishing her speedy recovery and next season.

 

[Ka3sha]

Evgenia Medvedeva is recovering, plans to compete at Nationals
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130010221.html

 

[SmallFairy]

Anna Come back strong!!

 

[text_skate]

I will miss her. Hope she recovers from everthing very quickly. It's a pity that we won't see her at Olys. I was rooting for her to get the 3rd spot.

 

[Darkverse]

I really feel that a lot of Russian names should use ' y'instead of 'i' when they write them in English. Like Katya is closer to the pronunciation than Katia, and Alyona is closer than Aliona (or Alena)Ilya is closer than Ilia. The e with two dots on top is pronounced 'yo', so the 'io' doesn't sound accurate to me. However, that's how they choose to do it. That's why I like to see the names in Cyrillic, instead of relying on English.

It's not really correct to say that "ё" is pronounced as "yo" in Russian, as it only happens at the beginning of words or after a vowel, not after a consonant like in "Alyona". But it's the closest an average English speaker would be able to pronounce it. Certainly closer than "Aleena".

Also, Aliya is a Tatar name. Alina is Western in origin, Tatars often use these, like Diana, Artur, Robert etc. Alyona is a folk Russian form of Elena. Arina is a folk Russian form of Irina. But now they are used as separate names.

 

[Ka3sha]

Kovtun may also withdraw from Nationals
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130027506.html

 

[casken]

Anna Pogorilaya withdraws from Nationals due to injury, her season is over
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130009181.html

This is all part of the plan for Anna to continue following the career arc of Maria Butyrskaya.

Pogo's implosion at last season's pre-Olympic worlds was Anna channeling Butyrskaya's implosion at the pre-Olympic worlds in 93 that cost Russia a spot at the next Olympics. Obviously thanks to Med, Pogo couldn't prevent Russia from sending no ladies to the Olympics on her own, but if Butyrskaya couldn't go to the next Olympics, Pogo cant either.

So basically, she's right on track to win worlds in 2023.

 

[rfisher]

Kovtun may also withdraw from Nationals
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130027506.html

That actually makes me sad as I think his SP is actually the best he's ever had. Oh, well. Good for Voronov and Samarin though. I figure Aliev will implode at Nationals, but so too might the other two.

 

[VGThuy]

Stupid question, but does this mean Pogo and Kovtun's seasons are over?

 

[Ka3sha]

Stupid question, but does this mean Pogo and Kovtun's seasons are over?

Most likely, yes.
And honestly speaking, I fear that they won’t find motivation to continue skating giving current situation with youngsters..

Feel bad for both of them

 

[Bigbird]

Why would Medvedeva, rush her recovery by competing at Russian Nationals? Why not recover fully and compete next at the Europeans? We all know she's a hard worker and more than likely she'll be competing every chance she gets with Zagitova in practice. It just seems so rushed. Oh well.

 

[Dobre]

Kovtun.

 

[Bigbird]

Kovtun.

His coach didn't need to say a word. I mean he just looks to have lost his mojo. He needs to team up with Averbuck and do shows and stop stressing out his fans. I've never been one, by the way, that is a fan, but I can feel for his peeps.

 

[TAHbKA]

Weren't they supposed to publish the list of the nationals competitors yesterday?

 

[Jeschke]

Kovtun may also withdraw from Nationals
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20171213/1130027506.html

you can like kovtun or not, but he's been to the last 5 worlds/euros (3 medals at euros), could not skate at '14 olympics due to plushy's farewell. It sucks seeing a skater falling apart/ not able to deliver (due to injury or whatever) in the olympic season after such a record into it
#comeback