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Putin was very clear. This is humiliating and no Russian will be in Pyeongchang
Based on his words. He said it would be total humiliation so how would he endorse Russia being humiliated?
So if we follow this from the process to chose which athletes will be able to compete:
- Athletes must be considered clean to the satisfaction of this panel:
- Athletes must not have been disqualified or declared ineligible for any Anti-Doping Rule Violation
That means NO Bobrova/Soloviev because of their disqualification given the Meldonium issue in 2016????
I think we've discerned that it will not.So if we follow this from the process to chose which athletes will be able to compete:
- Athletes must be considered clean to the satisfaction of this panel:
- Athletes must not have been disqualified or declared ineligible for any Anti-Doping Rule Violation
That means NO Bobrova/Soloviev because of their disqualification given the Meldonium issue in 2016????
WADA granted amnesty to all the athletes who tested positive to Meldonium prior to Mar 1, 2016 because the drug stays in the body for much longer than anyone realized.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/dopi...ada-announces-meldonium-amnesty-idUKL3N17G2SK
No. There was a similar ban prior to Rio for Russians who had doped but that did not apply to those caught in the meldonium conundrum. An example is the Russian artistic gymnast Nikolai Kuksenkov who tested positive and then had it revoked like Bobrova. He competed in Rio and won a silver medal with the team.
They don’t support putin! Just saying what he said and what his point was! I was criticized for being anti Russian for posting a thread with the title that presumed exactly what would happen!YOu know it's time to add another person to the ignore list. Your posts add nothing and just seem to be designed to support Putin.
This is a farce, I knew they wouldn’t do anything. The only message this sends is that if a country is powerful enough you can get away with it. Trump must love it, US will be getting into drug cheating big time now, and the Chinese will be totally on board. Sure, they will kill a few athletes with their experimental drug cocktails, and ruin the health of even more, but countries gain prestige from winning medals and corporations make money. The clean athletes of the world, the ones who don’t cheat, well they are out of luck.
I don't think Putin is that stubborn actually. if a Russian athlete medals, everyone is still going to know that was a Russian athlete.
As a skating fan, I hope this doesn't dampen the GPF too much. This decision was just announced and I'm sure the Russian and probably other skaters will be asked to speak about it. Plus, emotions must be raw for the Russian skaters as well.
It was shown live on few main tv channels, I haven't seen a link yetCould you please give the link to this briefing?
They don’t support putin! Just saying what he said and what his point was! I was criticized for being anti Russian for posting a thread with the title that presumed exactly what would happen!
He’s not paying 15 million for something he didn’t do. He won’t do anything he’s been ordered to do and won’t allow any Russians until ioc reverses all these decisions.
What Putin said In public means anything different would be a flip flop. He’s not going to flip flop so publicly so close to an election. I can’t remember another flip flop of his.
They don’t support putin! Just saying what he said and what his point was! I was criticized for being anti Russian for posting a thread with the title that presumed exactly what would happen!
People didn’t know putin said Neutral would be humiliation and destroy the Olympic movement. So I posted the Link. Also people didn’t no about the “no russia no games” campaign.I think Putin is quite able to make his point clear without your "explanations". Unless you have some direct contact with him, in which case you might not want to pick up any phone calls if the call display says "Mueller".
Dang I didn't get to ignore you before you posted more useless nonsense.
This is a farce, I knew they wouldn’t do anything. The only message this sends is that if a country is powerful enough you can get away with it. Trump must love it, US will be getting into drug cheating big time now, and the Chinese will be totally on board. Sure, they will kill a few athletes with their experimental drug cocktails, and ruin the health of even more, but countries gain prestige from winning medals and corporations make money. The clean athletes of the world, the ones who don’t cheat, well they are out of luck.
People didn’t know putin said Neutral would be humiliation and destroy the Olympic movement. So I posted the Link. Also people didn’t no about the “no russia no games” campaign.
No I do because a poster said they didn’t.You have no idea whether people knew this already or not.
No I do because a poster said they didn’t.
You've said what I feel, as well.I think this is a reasonable decision overall.
Yeah, it must be very tough to go out and skate right with all of this happening and potentially not being able to compete.
I'd like to think skaters are clean (and so far they have been) and I hope they do get to compete as neutral athletes.
You keep repeating this over and over again like a mantra, but I have yet to see any actual link to Putin's words. It's been widely reported in media that Dmitry Peskov said on Monday that Russia is not considering boycott of the games even if they have to compete under neutral flag...Yes. It was from putin who said any neutral order would be humiliation and would damage Olympic movement severely
But what happens if one wins a medal and there’s no Russian flag or gold and there’s no anthem and no flag. What do the Russians do? Mouthing the anthem or waving a flag gets the medal revoked? So extreme shame and humiliation is right there at the medal stand
"This decision took into account the interests of athletes to the maximum?" So it is, "Zhukov told journalists.