"No one knows Mirai's mirai" Nagasu cheer thread

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Spun Silver said:
I thought Tuktamysheva was doing it again. ?

Also, Starr Andrews has gone senior nationally and is going for it too.
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Like someone mentioned before we're all assuming Liza T is working on getting her 3A back...which is definitely different from being able to land one. She hasn't done one in competition in about 2 years, IIRC. I'd really like to see her get it back though. Her's was beautiful and that's the kind of edge she's going to need to get back into the top 3 at nationals.

I'm impressed with Starr's choice to go for the 3A but it's nowhere close to being rotated at this point. It's good that she's working on it early though. The hope is it will be a viable jump for her in the next 2 years or so, after she's gone through her growth spurt, solidified her other jumps and grown and matured more.


As of right now the only person who has landed a ratified 3A in competition lately is Rika Kihira. I'm really hoping we can add Mirai's name to that list next month :D
 
olympic said:
I wonder if Mirai would consider a 3Z-2T-2L for the 3 jump combo and a 2A-3T. I think she has done 2T-2L on the back end of 3 jump combos before. A point is a point
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Good question. The past few seasons she's been doing 2A-3T-2T as her 3 jump combo. She did 3F-3T-2T in her 2016 worlds free - I wonder why she tacked it on there?

Very excited by her international season debut in SLC!
 
olympic said:
I wonder if Mirai would consider a 3Z-2T-2L for the 3 jump combo and a 2A-3T. I think she has done 2T-2L on the back end of 3 jump combos before. A point is a point
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Mirai's 3Lz is relatively flat, especially in comparison to those that do the "intentional Lip" technique on their 3Lz, so she does better by repeating 3Lp.

ETA: Here is a skater I adore that does the "intentional Lip" technique. This skater gets a pass because of the size of her jumps.

https://youtu.be/0-zRcmWqC08?t=59
 
Mirai to go for 3axel in SP today and also tomorrow in free.

"Maybe Friday's short program at the U.S. International Figure Skating Classic?

"Absolutely," Nagasu said. "If I can land it in practice, why not go for it in competition."

Nagasu said she also plans to attempt one in Saturday's free skate and keep trying them this season, no matter what happens here."

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/09/14/254359642
 
It will be interesting to see what happens. She graded her triple axel as a "C" in an interview around May, because she said that it wasn't completely consistent yet. But I'm pretty sure that the plan had been for the triple axel to be in the long, so the fact that she is going for it in the short here too (since her and Tom have both talked about how it was a mistake to try it in her sp at nebelhorn in 2015 and that it probably cost her a medal) makes me think that she has gained some consistency on it in the summer. But it's also such a tough jump-you need the muscle memory and practice, but Mirai has also talked about how it is hard on her body/hard on her boots. So I'm not banking on it happening this weekend (though :saint: ), but I really wouldn't be surprised to see it landed successfully at some point in the season elsewhere.
 
AngieNikodinovLove said:
Mirai to go for 3axel in SP today and also tomorrow in free.

"Maybe Friday's short program at the U.S. International Figure Skating Classic?

"Absolutely," Nagasu said. "If I can land it in practice, why not go for it in competition."

Nagasu said she also plans to attempt one in Saturday's free skate and keep trying them this season, no matter what happens here."

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/09/14/254359642
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AngieNikodinovLove said:
Well she attempted it! No falls, I think a UR?
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http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2017/26189/results.html

Mirai's 3A was ratified with full base value but with negative GOEs, so calm down.
 
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VIETgrlTerifa said:
It was called rotated, but I wonder if it was double footed.
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It looked double footed to me. A great attempt, but I don't think she gets credit as the 8th (?) lady to do one in international competition until it's a clean 1 footed landing. Fingers crossed for tomorrow!
 
MIRAI NAGASU - SP 2017 - U.S. International Classic

The 3A was a ratifiable 1/4 short under slow motion at 1/4 normal video speed.

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Mirai did not deserve an ! for the 3Lz. Of course, it is not as deep as those that do the intentional Lip technique, but she was clearly on the outside, not a flat, during this attempt.

The new choreography for this jump layout is good, but Mirai is not committed enough to the execution (she does not do it with enough flare) to make it look good yet.

I prefer the 3A, 3F, 3Lz-2T jump layout (or 3A, 3F-2T, 3Lz) because I think toe jumps are much more reliable when tired. Also, the 3Lp is much more susceptible to failure on chewed up ice.
 
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Coco said:
Well rotated jumps can be double footed.

She is the 2nd US Lady to do a 3a in international competition! And just in time for the release of I, Tonya!
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I understand that it's counted as a ratified, fully rotated 3A, but I feel weird counting it just because under 6.0 when Midori and Tonya were getting credit for it, a double foot most likely would not have counted (like Surya Bonaly's quad...though I think she had UR issues as well).

Oh well rules have changed. Congrats to Mirai for standing up on it and I know it'll get better the more she attempts it.
 
VIETgrlTerifa said:
I understand that it's counted as a ratified, fully rotated 3A, but I feel weird counting it just because under 6.0 when Midori and Tonya were getting credit for it, a double foot most likely would not have counted (like Surya Bonaly's quad...though I think she had UR issues as well).
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Well, this competition is not exactly pre-Grand Prix NHK or pre-Grand Prix Skate America either. Also, there are plenty of men getting credit for quads that are underrotated today.
 
VIETgrlTerifa said:
I understand that it's counted as a ratified, fully rotated 3A, but I feel weird counting it just because under 6.0 when Midori and Tonya were getting credit for it, a double foot most likely would not have counted (like Surya Bonaly's quad...though I think she had UR issues as well).

Oh well rules have changed. Congrats to Mirai for standing up on it and I know it'll get better the more she attempts it.
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Yep, but it is watched in slow motion. If we had had that when Miki did her quad sal it would not have been ratified. So a bit of give and take.
 
chapis said:
I'm sure she'll get her perfect 3A this season :cheer2:, but I wish she'd changed her SP :(
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She was going to keep one program. Would you rather it were TWTIA?

It's pretty clear her whole focus was the 3A today. Hopefully she will get it under her belt and be able to interpret the music. It's a bit worrisome that her best *performance* was her very first one last season, though. I have faith in the program. I hope she is able to work with Jeff some more to refresh it even while focusing on the 3A.
 
Spun Silver said:
She was going to keep one program. Would you rather it were TWTIA?

It's pretty clear her whole focus was the 3A today. Hopefully she will get it under her belt and be able to interpret the music. It's a bit worrisome that her best *performance* was her very first one last season, though. I have faith in the program. I hope she is able to work with Jeff some more to refresh it even while focusing on the 3A.
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I just wish she had gotten a new program, but I understand her decision.
 
I am amazed at how many skaters are keeping old programs (Ashley being the Queen, of course). It's the Year of Old Programs. I dont remember this in previous Olympic seasons but maybe I wasnt paying attention.
 
bardtoob said:
The story of my FSU LIFE :D ... Yeah, Mirai! :cheer2:

Mirai did it. No matter what, it is recorded that Mirai Nagasu performed a 3A in an ISU Sanctioned International competition.

http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2017/26189/SEGM007.html
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This is the first time I've read about Mirai commenting on seeing a sports psychologist! I'm so glad, and I hope the sessions truly help her on her Olympic journey!

I do wish that Mirai would get her 3F-3T combo in before going for the 3A. It seems she can no longer do a 3L-3T to save crucial points after missing her 3F-3T combo. A 3L-2T is just not going to do it in this day and age.

I'm happy her 3A was ratified but she can for sure do way better! GO MIRAI!!:kickass:
 
Sasha'sSpins said:
This is the first time I've read about Mirai commenting on seeing a sports psychologist! I'm so glad, and I hope the sessions truly help her on her Olympic journey!
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Mirai has seen one for a while (honestly, I assume that all of the top skaters do?), here is an article from 2014 about an event that she and her sports psychologist did together, though I don't know if Caroline Silby is still the one she uses?
http://beverlyhighlights.com/2014/03/06/olympian-mirai-nagasu-sports-psychologist-caroline-silby-host-assembly-on-mental-games/

Yeah. I definitely preferred the first version of this program with the flip toe and original choreography. The timing also seemed to change over the last year and the program becomes a lot less effective. She got components from a few judges in the 6s. And I'm kind of annoyed with the lutz call, considering what **certain others have been getting away with on their lutz and flip. Oh well. The ratified triple axel was nice, even though it was with negative GOE. I love how pissed Mirai seemed in the interview! Which makes me think that she was really expecting to land the triple axel, which I guess is a good sign. Only three points down from the lead is ok for the short. Onward and upward to the long!
 
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