Yuzuru Hanyu Divorced (updated)

[Nikki Lee]

Public pressure and paparazzi led to the death of Princess Diana. Other celebrities put a lot of money and energy into maintaining privacy; that might include security if the person is prominent and vulnerable to a greedy and insatiable public. He's under a microscope far more than am I. I believe what he is saying. I hope he can find solace.

 

[Vagabond]

Public pressure and paparazzi led to the death of Princess Diana.

Neither public pressure nor paparazzi caused her driver to consume alcohol before stepping into that car.

 

[ignosk8er]

Neither public pressure nor paparazzi caused her driver to consume alcohol before stepping into that car.

Nor did public pressure prevent her from wearing a seat belt.

 

[skateboy]

That was speculation and nothing has been confirmed in any legitimate media sources from what I understand.

Oh, maybe so. I saw it on some news source a few weeks ago, here's one of many:

https://inf.news/en/entertainment/e5c15a3973f275773e2f283cfbf9cd26.html

Honestly, I'm not enough of a fan to care one way or another. This whole thing just sounds like a chapter out of Hanyu/Fanyu Bizzarroworld.

 

[Tesla]

Is there any proof that Hanyu got married? Maybe he's just trolling everyone.

 

[just tuned in]

Is there any proof that Hanyu got married? Maybe he just trolling everyone.

I mean, I kind of wondered that, too. Even if he and his "wife" "divorced," wouldn't paparazzi still hound her?

 

[MacMadame]

Why? This information is confidential.

It was said here that it wasn't. Apparently, that is not correct.

 

[Primorskaya]

I understood his statement about getting married in the context that it was a matter of public record, therefore he had no choice but to come out with it. Because even if he could keep the name of the bride secret, he could not keep the fact of getting married secret. And it would make sense, as otherwise, why on earth would someone who's been badly harassed for years put out information that would, unavoidably, attract immense interest and intense reactions from demented fans and tabloids alike? I think he'd have kept it secret if he could.
But then I fail to see the point of divorcing. I mean presumably they'll keep on seeing each other? So it's just giving the story a new lease of life with no improvement of their situation.
On another note, I'm astounded to hear that a marriage can be kept secret anywhere in the world. It's a matter of public record absolutely everywhere I've heard of. Legally I don't see how it can work otherwise. Even if you don't publish banns beforehand, as is compulsory in many countries, it will be registered in the city hall where the marriage took place. And those are public archives.

 

[starrynight]

I wonder if they had just released a few photos and details of the marriage there would be less fuss. By having it be a watertight secret, it actually generated the possibility of a reporter getting a big scoop and probably significantly magnified the attention. I think for someone like Hanyu, wanting total secrecy as an absolute was setting his marriage up for failure from the outset.

A lot of celebrities deliberately get ahead of stories so it takes the wind out of the sails of the magazines etc.

 

[airgelaal]

On another note, I'm astounded to hear that a marriage can be kept secret anywhere in the world. It's a matter of public record absolutely everywhere I've heard of. Legally I don't see how it can work otherwise. Even if you don't publish banns beforehand, as is compulsory in many countries, it will be registered in the city hall where the marriage took place. And those are public archives.

And I’m surprised that this is open information somewhere. Here's about the EU

https://gdmissionsystems.com/-/media/General-Dynamics/About-Us/Privacy-Policies/EU-General-Data-Protection-Regulation-Notice.ashx

In Ukraine this is also confidential information. These archives are definitely not public.

 

[Primorskaya]

No idea about Ukraine, but the above document has nothing to do with EU public archives or laws. It appears to be an internal notice for people working for a North American company about their handling of sensitive data so I'm mystified as to its relevance here.
In France and most other EU countries you can walk into any city hall and ask to see the registers. You can even access them online, for free. Not only is it not secret but marriages are invalid if not made public. Any kind of inheritance law, family property, filiation etc would be unworkable without public archives.

 

[MacMadame]

This is what ChatGPT says about marriage records in Japan:

In Japan, marriage records are generally not considered public information. The country places a strong emphasis on privacy, and personal information, including details about marriages, is typically treated with confidentiality. Marriage records are not readily accessible to the public, and individuals generally need to request such information through the appropriate government channels.

And this is what is says about marriage records in Ukraine:

In Ukraine, marriage records are generally considered public information. The State Registration Service of Ukraine is responsible for maintaining civil registration records, including those related to marriages. These records are typically accessible to the public, and individuals can obtain information about marriages by submitting requests to the relevant government authorities.

 

[airgelaal]

And this is what is says about marriage records in Ukraine:

This is not quite true. Of course, anyone can submit a request, but access to such information is possible only if there are legal grounds.
For example, I can try to find out the marital status of figure skater Ivan Shmuratko, but I can only do this if I:
1) married to him
2) official guardian
3) official heir
4) a notary who deals with inheritance
5) have power of attorney from him to obtain this information.
So, no chances

 

[On My Own]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725840826184663536

 

[just tuned in]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725840826184663536

Omg, people are nuts.

 

[On My Own]

OK, here's for any fanyu who might be reading this thread and is in denial that the fanbase might be culpable (through google translate):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1726046249735131315

[Sad news] Yuzuru Hanyu's troublesome fans are many times more dangerous than you can imagine▼ A troublesome otaku's claim ( @UJF59822151 )・The marriage announcement was a lie, and they were never married from the beginning. ・The whole thing is a grand advertisement for the other woman who is scheduled to make an AV debut. ・The real intention behind the divorce announcement is not that `the fans and the media are at fault,'' but `The media and the other woman are at fault.'' "bad"

By the way, Yuyuyu ( https://twitter.com/UJF59822151 ) loves Mr. Hanyu too much, but she moved with her daughter to Mr. Hanyu's living area (Sendai) and sent her daughter to Mr. Hanyu's elementary school and ice rink. .Many of Mr. Hanyu's MADs are available on YouTube, and all of them are made with great passion.https://youtube.com/@ujf2624

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1726037099147932118

By the way, Yuyuyu ( @UJF59822151 ) loves Yuzuru Hanyu too much, but she moved with her daughter to Hanyu's living area (Sendai) and took her daughter to Hanyu's elementary school and ice rink. I'm letting you know.

 

[Judy]

Nor did public pressure prevent her from wearing a seat belt.

Highly doubt even a seatbelt would even have saved her in that crash. That car was destroyed . Even wearing a seatbelt could have done sufficient damage to her with how the vehicle went out of control and hit the pillar/wall whatever it was.

 

[ignosk8er]

Highly doubt even a seatbelt would even have saved her in that crash. That car was destroyed . Even wearing a seatbelt could have done sufficient damage to her with how the vehicle went out of control and hit the pillar/wall whatever it was.

You’re always entitled to your opinion but if you Google “diana saved by seatbelt” you’ll find dozens of articles in which expert investigators and pathologists agree that both she and Dodi would have survived had they been wearing seatbelts. They base this on the injury that killed her: a tiny tear in the aorta that happens in a sudden decelerations. And I should clarify that by “seatbelt” that includes a shoulder strap. That strap is what would have saved her.

 

[Vagabond]

Highly doubt even a seatbelt would even have saved her in that crash. That car was destroyed . Even wearing a seatbelt could have done sufficient damage to her with how the vehicle went out of control and hit the pillar/wall whatever it was.

And do you doubt that even a sober chauffeur would have saved her? Get real.

 

[Judy]

And do you doubt that even a sober chauffeur would have saved her? Get real.

I never mentioned the driver? I said the condition of the car was very, very bad.

 

[jlai]

We need to fasten our seatbelt for this discussion

 

[Kateri]

And how about if Michelle Kwan had been driving the car?

 

[On My Own]

And was flambeing something, I guess...

 

[Vagabond]

We need to fasten our seatbelt for this discussion

Indeed.

 

[AnnM]

On another note, I'm astounded to hear that a marriage can be kept secret anywhere in the world. It's a matter of public record absolutely everywhere I've heard of.

California offers confidential marriage licenses. Absent a court order, the record can't be released to anyone except the married individuals.

 

[On My Own]

Chinese fanyus are attacking Ma Long and his fans over this for reasons only they know I am off to watch what might end up being a very entertaining downfall lmfao

 

[MacMadame]

I never mentioned the driver? I said the condition of the car was very, very bad.

There are plenty of people who walked away from bad car crashes because they had their seat belts on properly.

 

[ChelleC]

There are plenty of people who walked away from bad car crashes because they had their seat belts on properly.

I am one of those. I did have some broken bones, but it could have been much, much worse.

 

[airgelaal]

By the way, the fact that someone can obtain information does not mean that it can be published. This is why, I think, lawyers prevented the publication of many articles. Also, they probably had to use money. I would not be surprised that in some cases compromise solutions were found.
I didn’t work in the tabloids, but I know many cases when celebrities managed to convince the media not to publish scandalous materials. But it's still a stressful situation.

 

[Aussie Willy]

I just popped into this thread as I was thinking wasn't it just a minute ago that it was announced he was married. Now he is divorced? Then I see discussions about Princess Diana.

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