vanillashake
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Who are the greatest skaters ever for their country for these 5 major skating countries.
Canada
Men- Patrick Chan.
Ladies- Osmond. Ann Scott achieved the most but the competition level is nothing like today.
Dance- Virtue & Moir.
Pairs- Underhill & Martini. Mostly due to their pro careers, but if they didnt have their World amateur title I couldnt go with them.
United States
Men- Boitano. It will be Chen easily in time though.
Ladies- Yamaguchi. It was close for me between Heiss, Kwan, Yamaguchi, Fleming. Heiss achieved the most in amateur, but Kristi's combined amateur and pro achievements, but her over the others. Remember in addition to her Olympic Gold, back to back World titles, she has 4 World Pro titles.
Dance- Belbin & Agosto. Davis & White achieved the most but did it in such a weak field with Virtue & Moir their only competition. Belbin & Agosto paved the way for U.S dance, and won many medals in a super deep field with 8 or 9 contending teams.
Pairs- Carruthers. Mostly due to their pro careers again, plus their Olympic silver.
Russia
Men- Yagudin.
Ladies- Zagitova/Medvedeva. I guess achievements wise it might be Slutskaya for now, but she competed in a weak era with Kwan her only competition most of the time, except for Cohen and Shizuka at the very end when Kwan was no longer a factor. And she still choked often in big meets, she should have had 5 or 6 world titles and 2 Olympic Golds/3 Olympic medals; unlike nervous competitor Slutskaya, machines Medvedeva and Zagitova never choke so just imagine what they would have achieved back then. Medvedeva and Zagitova compete in an insane era where there competition in Russia is super hard with like 5 plus potential World Champions each year. Slutskaya's only competition in Russia was Butyrskaya.
Dance- Klimova & Ponomarenko.
Pairs- Gordeeva & Grinkov.
Japan
Men- Hanyu.
Ladies- Asada (if not her Ito). Arakawa achieved the most, but Asada and Ito are far more iconic. Both also competed in much tougher eras, and were far more consistent. Arakawa's Olympic Gold performance also probably would not have won gold at the 98 Olympics, 8 years earlier, and would not even medal in 2010, which cheapens the achievement somewhat.
Dance- no idea.
Pairs- Takahashi & Tran
France
Men- Joubert.
Ladies- Bonaly.
Dance- Anissina & Peizerat. They have the Olympic Gold and were the dominant skaters of their quad (99-2002). That puts them over Papadakis & Cizeron for now.
Pairs- Brunets.
Canada
Men- Patrick Chan.
Ladies- Osmond. Ann Scott achieved the most but the competition level is nothing like today.
Dance- Virtue & Moir.
Pairs- Underhill & Martini. Mostly due to their pro careers, but if they didnt have their World amateur title I couldnt go with them.
United States
Men- Boitano. It will be Chen easily in time though.
Ladies- Yamaguchi. It was close for me between Heiss, Kwan, Yamaguchi, Fleming. Heiss achieved the most in amateur, but Kristi's combined amateur and pro achievements, but her over the others. Remember in addition to her Olympic Gold, back to back World titles, she has 4 World Pro titles.
Dance- Belbin & Agosto. Davis & White achieved the most but did it in such a weak field with Virtue & Moir their only competition. Belbin & Agosto paved the way for U.S dance, and won many medals in a super deep field with 8 or 9 contending teams.
Pairs- Carruthers. Mostly due to their pro careers again, plus their Olympic silver.
Russia
Men- Yagudin.
Ladies- Zagitova/Medvedeva. I guess achievements wise it might be Slutskaya for now, but she competed in a weak era with Kwan her only competition most of the time, except for Cohen and Shizuka at the very end when Kwan was no longer a factor. And she still choked often in big meets, she should have had 5 or 6 world titles and 2 Olympic Golds/3 Olympic medals; unlike nervous competitor Slutskaya, machines Medvedeva and Zagitova never choke so just imagine what they would have achieved back then. Medvedeva and Zagitova compete in an insane era where there competition in Russia is super hard with like 5 plus potential World Champions each year. Slutskaya's only competition in Russia was Butyrskaya.
Dance- Klimova & Ponomarenko.
Pairs- Gordeeva & Grinkov.
Japan
Men- Hanyu.
Ladies- Asada (if not her Ito). Arakawa achieved the most, but Asada and Ito are far more iconic. Both also competed in much tougher eras, and were far more consistent. Arakawa's Olympic Gold performance also probably would not have won gold at the 98 Olympics, 8 years earlier, and would not even medal in 2010, which cheapens the achievement somewhat.
Dance- no idea.
Pairs- Takahashi & Tran
France
Men- Joubert.
Ladies- Bonaly.
Dance- Anissina & Peizerat. They have the Olympic Gold and were the dominant skaters of their quad (99-2002). That puts them over Papadakis & Cizeron for now.
Pairs- Brunets.