Unfortunately they were able to plead not guilty (the two men) on advise from their lawyer, and that will complicate and prolong the trial.
What a new angle: one needs to know first whether particular people are famous or not before choosing whether to victimize and kill them.
I don't know if this is related or not, nor i have any links to prove it, but shortly after the initial shock for all Kazakh people has settled, there was some talk on chats about "let it be a lesson to kids not to chase after petty thieves, possessions are not worth it".
Hypothetically, one does not have to be in politics or in big business or drug smuggling, etc., to become an object of an arranged paid-for murder. Someone with money can be motivated to eliminate someone just for being insulted, or for having his wife looked at the wrong way, or for something that has to do with pride and ego.... a person can get ran off the road off a bridge for a public insult, like flipping a bird to the wrong person with pride and power. If that person, who gets the bird, is important, and has others riding in the car with him, it maybe a matter of honor to run down the offender. (not that any of this is relevant to Ten).
The fact that we don’t know what the reason for arranged murder would be doesn’t necessarily mean that there wasn’t any reason. It just mean that we don’t know the reason. After reading what you wrote I immediately recalled the discussion between Abbe Faria and Edmond Dantes from the Count de Monte Cristo. Edmond telling Abbe Faria that he really can’t see why someone would wish him any harm, and Abbe teaching Edmond that even the lowest people in hierarchy of society will still have someone who is worse off and that someone may envy them something and wish to ‘move up’ to take their place. Are you assuming that only having a business or being in politics can get someone killed? For some people human life has a very small value (as long as it is not their own life) and a reason for hiring someone to kill Denis can be something completely ridiculous, such as envy that Denis had a nice car, or envy that he was successful, or feeling that Denis did not show enough ‘respect’ (e.g. Denis might not have given someone way on traffic lights) or anything else ridiculously small. Sometimes it can be any perceived insult rather than a real one, which means Denis might not have even done anything but someone could have perceived it as insult. Also, the person who potentially hired those men would not necessarily need to be rich. It is not as if Denis was killed by first rate assasin. Those two men could have been hired for a bottle of vodka.
The girl's lawyer will appeal, on basis that she is 7 months pregnant, and was not exactly sure what happened between men, not enough for her to report.
When the court added up each offense, the max they came up with was 20 years. Lawyers brought it down to 18.
Eighteen years in a labor camp is a long, long time for a young man. I think this is comparable to a US sentence for second-degree (not premeditated) murder.
You have a point there. I highly doubt, they make it out of there alive. Good.
The sputniknews article you posted says they "received 18 years of imprisonment" if the google machine translation is correct. Where the "labor colony" thing you mentioned comes from?
there are many articles this morning, plus videos of court hearings and verdict announcements. it is "labor colony".
Exactly! i don't either. Confinement is the punishment itself, and any form of violence, bullying, etc., should not be part of it. Unfortunately it happens, and sometimes in worst possible forms. It is hard to control and to stop even if and/or when government forces and human rights organizations get involved. When they come for inspections, the situation is made to look a lot better during their visits, and those who suffered abuse are afraid to speak out because of future retaliation. Those who "snitch" are easy to get rid of later, by making death or injury look like an accident, or "bad fight between inmates" where the administration is not at fault.