U.S. Men 2025-26 Discussion - Quad God and the Mere Mortals

What catchy name would YOU give to the USA men's figure skating trio? :D

" Tallinn Trio " surely is what Torgashev actually was saying -- because Tallinn hosted 2020 Junior Worlds, where Max, Andrew, and Ilia were USA's competitors in men. (Similar concept to Ilia's choice of "2020 Reunion Tour".)

Too bad that Team USA social media person misunderstood and wrote "Talon" instead of "Tallinn."

On a happier note, I like the sense of kinship among the three guys!
 
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" Tallinn Trio " surely is what Torgashev actually was saying -- because Tallinn hosted 2020 Junior Worlds, where Max, Andrew, and Ilia were USA's competitors in men. (Similar concept to Ilia's choice of "2020 Reunion Tour".)

Too bad that Team USA social media person misunderstood and wrote "Talon" instead of "Tallinn."
:yikes:No wonder I was :confused: by Andrew's (USFS') "Talon Trio" - thank you for clearing that up for me! :)

I posted this short 1:45 clip in Maxim's fan thread yesterday (CNN's Coy Wire is the journalist):
 
I posted this short 1:45 clip in Maxim's fan thread yesterday (CNN's Coy Wire is the journalist):
“The path to healing was in doing the difficult things.”
 
From Mainichi Newspaper:
Former World Junior Champion Tomoki Hiwatashi Announces Retirement from Amateur Competitions

After his performance, he reflected, “I thought to myself that making a little mistake even right up until the very end (of my amateur career) is just like me. But I was able to skate happily, and I feel that it was a skating career I could be incredibly satisfied with. I'm glad I could finish on such a good note.”

He plans to start working for a trading company in Chicago, USA. “I also want to stay involved in skating,” he said, adding that while working, he aims to obtain certification as a technical specialist in the future.


 
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Tomoki won the juvenile, intermediate, novice, and junior levels of the U.S. Nationals.

Are there any other U.S. men who have done that? I am wondering.
I just did a quick check online and don't believe so? (ETA: see @ice coverage's post below mine - sorry, Parker!)

Joshua Farris came closest - he won juvenile (2006), intermediate (2008) & novice (2009) national titles and junior silver (Jason won the gold in 2010).
 
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Tomoki won the juvenile, intermediate, novice, and junior levels of the U.S. Nationals.

Are there any other U.S. men who have done that? I am just wondering.

Parker Pennington won the same four U.S. titles:
1995 juvenile
1996 intermediate
1998 novice
2001 junior
https://usfigureskating.org/documents/2025/9/11/Historical_Information_through_24-25.pdf (see pp. 54-56)​

"Where Are They Now" article from Skating magazine (from 2017?) about Pennington:

Congratulations to Tomoki for a great career!
 
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Jacob got 2 ISU personal bests at 4CC - 161.68 (7th in FS) and 240.25 (total for 8th overall) - and his opening 3A+3T in the FS received up to +4 GOE! :) I saw some 4S attempts by him in Nationals practices and he is training alongside Caleb Farrington who has a 4T and was landing 3As in Nationals practices (I posted clips of 3A+3T & 4T+3T earlier in this thread, ICYMI).

His ISU Quick Quotes after the FS:
Today, I'm really happy with my performance. I felt really good out there today—really comfortable and confident.
Yesterday was pretty nervous, but today I was sure I was going to nail everything. I really put in the work with my
mental game today to make sure I could believe in myself. (the story of program) The story of my program has three
stages, and I feel like it really represents me. This season hasn't been easy - it started pretty rough. I had a previous
free skate [Dune] before this one. The story in the beginning is kind of sad and somber, very slow, a little depressing even.
The second part is inspiring, building up, and then the last part is just the peak of the program. I feel like I'm flying
when I'm skating to that part of the music. It represents my development both off and on the ice this season.


Mixed Zone photo & quotes:
 
Jan. 12 posts in this thread:
I also noticed that Jacob Sanchez got Jr. Worlds along w/Four Continents (as expected). Blackwell, IIRC, is age eligible next season, and would benefit greatly from gaining points from an ISU Championship. Another illogical decision here, IMO.
I was surprised too...i figured Jacob finishing high enough to get 4CC would mean Patrick would get JW along with Lucius. I imagine USFS is thinking in terms of maximizing JGP spots for next season, and Jacob has so far proven to be more consistent than Patrick.
Thoughts :D after 4CC?
 
Thoughts after 4CC? :D
Well, Jacob did prove his consistency. :D And if he skates like that at JW, he'll definitely help the U.S. maximize JGP spots. I still say it's good to spread the big assignments around, but more JGP spots will enable USFS to spread opportunities around for the up-and-comers, which will include Patrick, not to mention hopefully getting 3 spots at JW in 2027.

And if Jacob does medal/win at JW, the points will help his WS ranking heading into next season.
 
Sanchez earned 402 WS points at 4C's for his 8th place finish. His next lowest points amount is 365. He'll earn incremental WS points for 2025-26 for a podium finish: 40 for bronze, 85 for silver, and 135 for gold.

At the end of the season, any points from 2023-24 will drop, and points from the 2024-25 season will be factored by 70%. Usually there's some shuffling around the rankings by the time the dust settles after refactoring. Hopefully the Feds will get formal retirement and split notices, and the ISU will be able to remove those skaters/teams from the WS lists sooner than later.
 

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