Titanic Missing Submersible Updates

[once_upon]

However, if this is true..another crew of 25 will put their lives at risk to try and find these 5?

Deep-sea robot Victor 6000 rushed to site in Titanic race-against-time rescue

The Victor 6000 was rushed to the search site aboard French research vessel L’Atalante, and its remotely operated vehicle (ROV) was deployed early Thursday, around the time oxygen was expecte…

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[genevieve]

Except I sign waivers that say I might die if I do "this" all the time. So do a lot of people. I don't really think I'm going to die doing a marathon or a triathlon though. I mean I know people do but it's so rare that whenever it happens anywhere in the world, it's news.

I can't find the article again, but it sounded like this was a LOT more pointed than your typical liability waiver that mentions remote possibility of death.

Ever since I saw The Perfect Storm I've been freaked out about drowning in a small, tight space

 

[Orm Irian]

I really, really hope this (from the Guardian liveblog) is what it sounds like and not wishful interpretation of random sounds:

Dr David Gallo, a deep sea explorer, has stressed that it will take hours to rescue the submersible once it has been found – if indeed it turns out that the repetitive banging noises detected are coming from the lost sub.

Speaking to Good Morning Britain on Thursday, he said:

In this case, the noises are repetitive, every half hour I believe.

Three different aircraft heard them in their sensors at the same time and it went on for two days-plus.
It’s still going on apparently. There’s not a lot in the natural world we can think of that would do that every 30-minute cycle.
We have to, at this point, assume that that’s the submarine and move quickly to that spot, locate it and get robots down there to verify that is where the submarine is.
They’ve got to go fully ready as if that was the sub because it takes a while to locate it and get it up to the surface, it takes hours.

Because that pattern - three minutes of banging like hell (i.e., against the inside of the hull) every half-hour, on the half-hour - is apparently the protocol for sending a distress signal from a submarine or submersible that has lost communication and the ability to control its movements. The water helps the sound and vibrations carry so that they can be picked up by searchers. And the French explorer on board would absolutely know that signal and know what to do. If it really is coming on a half-hour cycle, it suggests that the crew members are still alive.

 

[once_upon]

I hope it's true. But half hour time sequences seem impossible - there is likely/probable there is no power/no light to read clocks or navigation instruments. Most any watches people own today require charging, there would not be charging equipment. If Starlink satellite communications is not working, any satellite connection to set time would not be working.

 

[Tesla]

Most any watches people own today require charging, there would not be charging equipment.

Depends on the battery life of the watch. I have a Fitbit that I charge once a week. It is possible.

 

[marbri]

I haven't been glued to this because I know people in the know and knew early on even if they found them they had no way of saving them. I can only hope all the efforts and resources put into trying to "rescue" them was money put forth by the families.

 

[Tesla]

I haven't been glued to this because I know people in the know and knew early on even if they found them they had no way of saving them. I can only hope all the efforts and resources put into trying to "rescue" them was money put forth by the families.

I think all this effort is less for rescue than for closure for the families.

 

[marbri]

I think all this effort is less for rescue than for closure for the families.

I am sure. Been to more than a handful of funerals for those lost at sea and it's hard not having a body to bury
But that is sadly the reality for most families of those lost at sea.

 

[BittyBug]

I can only hope all the efforts and resources put into trying to "rescue" them was money put forth by the families.

The U.S. Coast Guard has already said that the families will not be charged for their efforts, but that any recovery effort would be solely on private individuals. And unlike Canada, the U.S. does not require a large bond for risky adventure activities, although people rescued by land (like hikers) can in fact be charged for the effort, and frequently are.

It does seem like this search and rescue effort has gone on longer than is typical, and involves more resources than is typical, but maybe it's just that it's more in the news than typical.

 

[MsZem]

One of Israel's enduring mysteries when I was younger was the disappearance of the submarine Dakar, which vanished en route from Portsmouth to Haifa in early 1968. It was a another year before the emergency buoy surfaced (far away), and despite many efforts, more than thirty years passed before it was finally found.

Submarines lost at sea, especially at such depth, are a tricky proposition even if one knows where to look.

 

[Cachoo]

I really, really hope this (from the Guardian liveblog) is what it sounds like and not wishful interpretation of random sounds:

Because that pattern - three minutes of banging like hell (i.e., against the inside of the hull) every half-hour, on the half-hour - is apparently the protocol for sending a distress signal from a submarine or submersible that has lost communication and the ability to control its movements. The water helps the sound and vibrations carry so that they can be picked up by searchers. And the French explorer on board would absolutely know that signal and know what to do. If it really is coming on a half-hour cycle, it suggests that the crew members are still alive.

A part of me wishes the vehicle had imploded when they lost contact initially because that death is very, very quick. We are talking a percentage of a second. This sounds like agony.

 

[Kruss]

A debris field has been found. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nat...itanic-during-search-for-submersible/3167070/

 

[Judy]

So horrifying

 

[Cachoo]

I have so many questions. You see the submersibles that James Cameron used before filming "Titanic." What was state of the art back in the 90's certainly looks better than this contraption. If you have billions don't you want state of the art for such a dangerous undertaking?

 

[DFJ]

Debris assessed to be from the subs external body.

 

[Spikefan]

I guess at least they went quick. Better than finding the vessel still intact and knowing they suffered. The families can have closure now.

 

[Kruss]

US Coast Guard press conference is going on now. Very sad, as it's been confirmed the debris field is from the Titan.

 

[Karen-W]

USCG states that it was a catastrophic destruction of the pressure chamber. How tragic and horrifying.

 

[Wyliefan]

At least it was quick.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

I hope their families will be comforted to know they did not suffer.

 

[once_upon]

Their souls have been lost.

Debris is consistent with a catastrophic explosion

 

[MsZem]

It's sad to say, but of the more realistic outcomes, this is the best for the loved ones of those lost: they know what happened and that the people on the Titan went quickly and didn't suffer

 

[Judy]

Although they don’t say it .. I doubt the remains will be able to recoverable .

 

[Theatregirl1122]

However, if this is true..another crew of 25 will put their lives at risk to try and find these 5?

Deep-sea robot Victor 6000 rushed to site in Titanic race-against-time rescue

The Victor 6000 was rushed to the search site aboard French research vessel L’Atalante, and its remotely operated vehicle (ROV) was deployed early Thursday, around the time oxygen was expecte…

nypost.com

Just for clarity, although it didn’t end up being needed, the crew of 25 operates the robot from the mother ship. The robot is unmanned.

Unfortunately, this outcome is probably the best. Something has been found, so the families will not have to wonder forever. And it was clearly a catastrophic implosion, not running out of air.

 

[Kruss]

It's sad to say, but of the more realistic outcomes, this is the best for the loved ones of those lost: they know what happened and that the people on the Titan went quickly and didn't suffer

I agree, and I pray that the families will find some comfort that their loved ones probably didn't suffer.

 

[marbri]

It's sad to say, but of the more realistic outcomes, this is the best for the loved ones of those lost: they know what happened and that the people on the Titan went quickly and didn't suffer

And they have a burial site of sorts. A specific location. I can't describe in words that feeling of never knowing where your loved ones lost at sea are.

 

[Judy]

And they have a burial site of sorts. A specific location. I can't describe in words that feeling of never knowing where your loved ones lost at sea are.

Yeah my cousin lost her son (21 years old). U.S. Coast guard searched tirelessly but yah it’s horrific . They said the coast guard was excellent dealing with them.

 

[Winnipeg]

How sad and what a waste just to see a sunken ship that can be viewed in pictures likely far better.

I am truly sorry for the loss but let's face it, they must have known the huge risk they were taking and decided this was worth it for them. Sorry for the families too.

 

[Ananas Astra]

This is extremely tragic.

TBH, I, as a big fan of cemeteries, would've totally visited the Titanic myself if I had the money for it. But seeing what kind of amateurish submarine they had to enter for the "trip of a lifetime", I'd never had sat down in this piece of shit for a second of my life.

May the adventurers rest in peace and their families gather all the strength they have for what is going to come: a HUGE lawsuit against the organizers of this super dangerous shitshow.

 

[Spikefan]

The sister of the 19-year-old is saying he didn’t want to go but did because it was his dad’s lifelong dream and it was Father’s Day.