"The Walking Dead": Any fans here?

[rfisher]

I think the mom has now grasped the situation. She hasn't totally accepted it yet, but she gets it.

The dad, on the hand.....

Yeah, stopping his kid from learning about the shotgun...he'll regret that. Mom may channel her inner Carol at some point. Hopefully, it's not after she has to put a bullet in one of her kid's head.
We all know some of the little merry band are doomed before the end of the season. We need a betting pool.

 

[susan6]

I think the mom has now grasped the situation. She hasn't totally accepted it yet, but she gets it.

The dad, on the hand.....

Yeah....Mr. Salazar's "Weak" comment was directed at Travis. Madison was trying to deliver a quick mercy kill to the neighbor, and she was all for Chris learning his way around a firearm. For pete's sake, man, if riots and killing are going around, you want your entire family to know how to shoot.

 

[WildRose]

Yeah....Mr. Salazar's "Weak" comment was directed at Travis. Madison was trying to deliver a quick mercy kill to the neighbor, and she was all for Chris learning his way around a firearm. For pete's sake, man, if riots and killing are going around, you want your entire family to know how to shoot.

I agree - Mom is going to have to be the strong one in that family and she will have to take charge soon if any of them are going to survive, because Travis is a total weakling who's going to get them all killed. Junkie son isn't clueless, but he's a danger to the group because he'd abandon any of them in a minute for drugs. Mr. Salzar rocks - if it wasn't for him and his gun Travis would already be a Zombie dinner.

 

[PeterG]

I've been watching Fear the Walking Dead with someone who hasn't watched the Walking Dead series. She thinks they are in shock & major denial and finds that quite plausible under the circumstances. When I really thought about it I had to agree that made sense. We know what's going on and the effect it's going to have on their lives but they haven't even begun to grasp it yet.

I agree. Has the whole show been less than 24 hours so far? Or a day and a half?

Are they going ask every zombie they meet if he or she is sick? Because how many of them have to attempt to eat your face before you think "HEY MAYBE SOMETHING WEIRD IS HAPPENING"?

I think it's pretty obvious everybody knows something weird is happening. But Madison said that Susan had looked after her kids for her. She is like a family member. Madison is trying to figure out if the woman who cared for her child can be helped in some way...but she doesn't have the information to do anything. Which leaves her helpless and distressed.

It's depressing how stupid the people are. First thing they should have done when reunited is to pool all the information they have and try to figure out what's going on.

We have seen people sharing information. I'm sure a lot more has been shared that we have seen, but we are only seeing specific moments.

Does Travis know that Madison had to crush their former principal's skull with a fire extinguisher? Crushing/destroying the brain = successful kill is kind of an important fact.

It's possible that Madison didn't want to tell the man who hates guns...that she just murdered her long-time friend/co-worker. Plus you are thinking of all of this in terms of a zombie apocalypse. Zombie apocalypses do not exist. Not in the lives of these people. Zombie apocalypses have never ever existed in the history of humankind before now...so accepting now that a zombie apocalypse is actually real and not the musings of an insane person...is going to take more than 24 hours to absorb.

 

[rfisher]

Not me. I see anybody with glazed eyes eating the face off somebody, I'm going to think zombie apocalypse and look for a weapon.

 

[Japanfan]

The two of you convinced me to check it out. But my local library doesn't have season one (it came out on DVD in February). So I checked another website that lists holdings for all the libraries in my province. Zero have the first season. Guess it 'twas not to be...

It's quite possible that Season One will be re-aired on Space before Season Two starts later this month. Getting through it is another thing - it is so terrible. I'm not sure I'll make it to the end. It's redeeming qualities are that there is lots of action and a story, and it seems that the producers intended to make a very bad zombie series and infuse it with a sense of humour.

There is a word for those who grasp situations first: survivors. Those who are playing catch up die. So far, my money is on the Hispanic guy from El Salvadore and maybe his daughter.

I'll ride with Mr. El Savadore, thank you.

 

[sweetsparky]

Not me. I see anybody with glazed eyes eating the face off somebody, I'm going to think zombie apocalypse and look for a weapon.

But we have seen Romero´s living dead movies and MJ´s thriller

I understand that in a situation like that people would want to believe the affected are just ill and maybe they can be cured, and will be very reluctant to "kill" any person, and even more a neighbour or family (I think Salazar´s wife chances of surviving are low so maybe the weak judgment will bite him later).

 

[Marco]

Not me. I see anybody with glazed eyes eating the face off somebody, I'm going to think zombie apocalypse and look for a weapon.

Exactly. Travis saw "the sick ones" got hit by a car and still got back up, saw them got shot by full gear police and still got back up, and when one ate a dog alive and was within 2 inches of his face wanting to bite him, he told Maddy to put the gun down.

That makes sense.

Zombie or not, it's clear that these "sick ones" are dangerous. In fact so dangerous that they decide to hide in the desert. So not telling their kids about it or giving them some sort of grace warning just doesn't make sense, especially if you are going to make them make a run for it to the truck from the barber shop amidst the shooting, or into the neighbour's house to take their rifle AFTER hearing weird noises nearby all night long. It's bad enough that the parents didn't say anything, it's even dumber that the kids didn't ask/ insist on asking. And when you are trying to protect your house from intrusion, of course you will leave the door open when you sneak out next door.

These episodes need some serious logical checks.

 

[snoopy]

I wonder if they know now that you turn when you die. So they cart all the sick people off somewhere else just in case.

 

[AliasJohnDoe]

I'm wondering if it's Tobias making the flashes from the building. Warning Madison. Probably not, but crossed my mind.

 

[susan6]

I wonder if they know now that you turn when you die. So they cart all the sick people off somewhere else just in case.

I think Alicia might have figured that out. I'm pretty sure the neighbor (Susan) took pills and killed herself and then turned into a zombie. That note Alicia found was probably a suicide note. So she realizes that you don't need to get bitten or attacked by a zombie to turn; it will now happen in any case after you die, for anyone who caught that "flu" that was going around. This info seems to have caused her to have some sort of mental break, what with the self-tatting and weird ending soliloquy to Patrick about "godly" events or whatever.

Madison might actually be batting 1000 in terms of giving her kids genetic predispositions for serotonin imbalance. One's an addict, and the other may have an affective disorder.

Speaking of addicts, SO glad Madison clocked Nick. Weakness is a luxury no one can afford when zombies are roaming the earth and the military is shooting not only the zombies but also anyone who pisses them off.

 

[AliasJohnDoe]

Speaking of Madison's genetic predispositions. It's never shown what Madison is "sipping" all the time. Usually only alcohol is sipped like that. But I don't believe a bottle of alcohol was ever shown.

 

[Marco]

Maddi is annoying me the way Lori was. Why the heck would you sneak out when 1. you don't know what actually happened with the zombies; 2. you don't know what's out there (safety wise); and most importantly 3. you are compromising the safety of the whole neighbourhood by cutting the wire fence open.

Bet she never even thought about that when she got pissed at Travis' ex-wife that her drug addict son got taken away. Never mind that he was a safety hazard himself, secretly sharing the drip with the bed-ridden patient who actually needed it.

 

[PrincessLeppard]

I'm kind of bummed we skipped nine days. I wanted to see society start to fall; I wanted to see what happened outside the fence. I feel like all the really cool stuff is happening off screen. THERE WAS NOT ONE ZOMBIE IN THIS ENTIRE EPISODE.

 

[Marco]

I think Alicia might have figured that out. I'm pretty sure the neighbor (Susan) took pills and killed herself and then turned into a zombie. That note Alicia found was probably a suicide note. So she realizes that you don't need to get bitten or attacked by a zombie to turn; it will now happen in any case after you die, for anyone who caught that "flu" that was going around. This info seems to have caused her to have some sort of mental break, what with the self-tatting and weird ending soliloquy to Patrick about "godly" events or whatever.

I never thought of that. Very well caught, thank you!

What's up with everyone withholding information? First Travis and Maddi not telling their kids about the zombies, and now this. What a sad community.

 

[AliasJohnDoe]

I'm kind of bummed we skipped nine days. I wanted to see society start to fall; I wanted to see what happened outside the fence. I feel like all the really cool stuff is happening off screen. THERE WAS NOT ONE ZOMBIE IN THIS ENTIRE EPISODE.

I was bummed too. But I think there will be a flashback episode detailing those 9 days. The person making the flashes from the building outside the gates will tell the story. Which is why I think it's Tobias in the building. Tobias was too much of a storyline in the first 2 episodes to be forgotten and never heard from again.

When they showed the plane in the sky at the end of the third episode, I wondered if that's the plane the "stand alone web episode" will be based on. One of the people from the "zombie plane" is suppose to be a regular on the show in season 2. It could be this person on the plane who fills in those 9 days also.

 

[PeterG]

Wow, that was a brilliantly directed episode. Like a slow burn, with everything percolating under the surface and knowing it's only time that keeps everything from bursting and exploding in every way possible. Loved how that tension remained throughout the entire episode. The relationships between Alicia and Nick is getting even better, these two actors are doing such a good job with their roles.

In reference to Madison:

Bet she never even thought about that when she got pissed at Travis' ex-wife that her drug addict son got taken away. Never mind that he was a safety hazard himself, secretly sharing the drip with the bed-ridden patient who actually needed it.

Speaking of addicts, SO glad Madison clocked Nick. Weakness is a luxury no one can afford when zombies are roaming the earth and the military is shooting not only the zombies but also anyone who pisses them off.

I was angry at Nick when I saw him lying under the bed, basically stealing a patient's morphine. Then I remembered that addiction is a disease, and to get angry with him would make as much sense as getting angry with someone who has breast cancer. Madison assaulting her ill child was really strange to me. I thought she was going to hug him. Her reaction made me wonder if he was going to walk out in front of a speeding military vehicle out of desperation. What an un-Motherly act from her...

Maddi is annoying me the way Lori was. Why the heck would you sneak out when 1. you don't know what actually happened with the zombies; 2. you don't know what's out there (safety wise); and most importantly 3. you are compromising the safety of the whole neighbourhood by cutting the wire fence open.

The old "blame the woman" bit. Blech!! Why blame the person trying to figure out what's going on when the military is not providing information, is not providing medicine, is holding everyone prisoner against their wills, is acting carelessly, is not addressing concerns & fears of the people they serve, and are forcing people into taking desperate, careless action? The military are clearly out of their depths and should not be acting like they have things under control when they are making mistake after mistake after mistake.

 

[Japanfan]

Speaking of Madison's genetic predispositions. It's never shown what Madison is "sipping" all the time. Usually only alcohol is sipped like that. But I don't believe a bottle of alcohol was ever shown.

There is bottle of alcohol in the scene where Maddie and Travis make out in the car - I think Travis was holding it and it looked like whiskey.

Madison assaulting her ill child was really strange to me. I thought she was going to hug him. Her reaction made me wonder if he was going to walk out in front of a speeding military vehicle out of desperation. What an un-Motherly act from her...

I thought her anger was understandable, as she knew Nick had been stealing the morphine, and he had refused help from the medical person who came by.

The person making the flashes from the building outside the gates will tell the story. Which is why I think it's Tobias in the building.

We rewound, and concluded that the flashes might be gunshots, not an appeal for help.

Why the heck would you sneak out when 1. you don't know what actually happened with the zombies; 2. you don't know what's out there (safety wise); and most importantly 3. you are compromising the safety of the whole neighbourhood by cutting the wire fence open.

Because you don't yet believe or know the zombie apocalypse has arrived. Because denial kicks in in such a situation, especially when you trust authorities who say they have the situation under control. Maybe a Syrian refugee or someone in a similar situation would be inclined to not trust the authorities, but that would not been the case in suburban middle class LA.

A while earlier, Maddie was repainting the walls of her house and trying to get rid of the blood. That's not something she would do if she knew the apocalypse was nigh and survival became the sole focus.

Perhaps not even all the authorities yet know the truth. In a situation like this, collective panic can do as much damage as the actual epidemic.

The removal of people who are at risk of dying is one concrete sign that people are turning zombie, but no one wants to advertise that as of yet.

I'm kind of bummed we skipped nine days. I wanted to see society start to fall; I wanted to see what happened outside the fence. I feel like all the really cool stuff is happening off screen. THERE WAS NOT ONE ZOMBIE IN THIS ENTIRE EPISODE.

This community is a safe zone, hence no zombies. Containment is a natural response to an epidemic and contained people will be isolated and safe at least temporarily. They will hang on to old routines and emotional baggage.

It's only been nine days. I don't know at which point TWD picked up - Rick had been in a coma for maybe a month?

The collapse of government/police will be the next step towards total mayhem and breakdown.

 

[Marco]

I was angry at Nick when I saw him lying under the bed, basically stealing a patient's morphine. Then I remembered that addiction is a disease, and to get angry with him would make as much sense as getting angry with someone who has breast cancer. Madison assaulting her ill child was really strange to me. I thought she was going to hug him. Her reaction made me wonder if he was going to walk out in front of a speeding military vehicle out of desperation. What an un-Motherly act from her...

I am not mad at Nick. He has a problem. I am mad at Maddy. You find out your son is basically a safety hazard because he is secretly stealing morphine. Blame yourself for not keeping an eye on him. Before and now. Don't blame someone for causing him to be taken away. She doesn't have to believe that the doctors can help him, but she can't blame them for taking him away.

The old "blame the woman" bit. Blech!! Why blame the person trying to figure out what's going on when the military is not providing information, is not providing medicine, is holding everyone prisoner against their wills, is acting carelessly, is not addressing concerns & fears of the people they serve, and are forcing people into taking desperate, careless action? The military are clearly out of their depths and should not be acting like they have things under control when they are making mistake after mistake after mistake.

Yes, everyone wants answers. But, Maddi herself didn't want to give out information, not even to her own daughter, so what makes her feel so entitled to demand information from others? And she never shared what she saw out there to anyone else after she came back. She saw the zombies with her own eyes in the last episode and even killed one in the second episode. The most probable situation is the authority also only have limited information, and so didn't want to cause panic. And again, by sneaking out, she is causing a safety hazard by secretly cutting the wire fence and also by failing to keep an eye on Nick. And she didn't even know if the thing was infectious or not - she is compromising the safety of her own family and of course the entire neighbourhood by sneaking out.

The military may not be all that helpful, but they are trying to keep the situation under control given whatever information they have. And that requires everyone's cooperation in the very least. I guess my question for Maddi is, are you even doing your own part? before you start asking so much?

 

[WildRose]

By cooperating with the military they are getting people killed. I'm pretty sure the folks the military are hauling away aren't getting medical treatment. My guess is the relatively healthy ones are being used as test subjects as they desperately try and find a cure, and the very ill are bring killed before they can die and turn into zombies.
Also, by telling them about the flashing light they got whoever was signalling outside the fence killed. The military can't be trusted, the sooner they realize this the better.

 

[Twilight1]

Am I weird thinking that I would just head to a very northern country and wait out zombies freezing solid and then just live off the land? Why waste bullets when I can take comfort in the stupid things freezing solid.

 

[PrincessLeppard]

Because then you would be cold, too. I hate being cold.

Re: Madison beating up Nick, and we should feel bad for him because he's an addict and it's a disease.....he was stealing morphine from a dying man. He's an asshole and deserved to get slapped. It's not like he's a diabetic and needs insulin. He's made terrible choices and there should be consequences for that. Hauling him off is better than slapping, but since that's the first real emotion we've seen from Maddi, I'll take it.

Re: Z Nation. I can't believe they killed Mac.

 

[Marco]

Am I weird thinking that I would just head to a very northern country and wait out zombies freezing solid and then just live off the land? Why waste bullets when I can take comfort in the stupid things freezing solid.

Didn't work on Z Nation. They didn't freeze.

 

[Marco]

Re: Z Nation. I can't believe they killed Mac.

But they gained a new man. I think that's going to be the leading man for the season.

 

[Twilight1]

^Alright then. Blockaded Walmart it is then.

 

[Japanfan]

Didn't work on Z Nation. They didn't freeze.

They did. But got defrosted by the nuke.

 

[Marco]

They did. But got defrosted by the nuke.

I thought a military plane full of soldiers (successfully) intercepted the nuke from hitting NSA, the plane crashed into the NSA gates anyway and released all the dead solders-turned-zombies from the plane into Citizen Z's area?

 

[PrincessLeppard]

I thought they were from the plane that he missed at the beginning of season one.

 

[PrincessLeppard]

I am now officially hate-watching Fear the Walking Dead. I hate the characters, I hate the bad writing, I hate the cheap production values that prevent us from seeing anything interesting but allow us to watch two stupid teenagers trash a house, I hate that writers still think that torture is an effective way to get information and at this point, why would the soldier withhold information?

 

[snoopy]

Bummer. Only one more episode. I love this show. Maybe I'm just tired of the other set of characters but I'm liking this show better, even if we only get a distant zombie shot every so often. Some of the characters are dumb and shallow but there is interesting depth in a couple of them - more so than the original.