The Heir, The Spare and the “Baby Brain” -The Prince Harry and Meghan show rumbles on…

Okay, this family is not normal, so what now? Should everyone run away to the US and start writing memoirs?
And sorry, I don't think it's a normal person who writes in his memoirs about his frostbitten penis, lip gloss, seals and mediums. Hopefully, in 30 years, his children will not write their memoirs.
Why does anyone write a memoir? Harry's doesn't sound any worse than any other memoir out there. I think @MacMadame is on the right track. I think Harry wrote it for catharsis. If this helps with his mental health, I won't judge him. We also have no idea what is really in this book. The media has only glommed onto the most titillating parts, without context.
 
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The haters will never admit to this. It's been pointed out in this thread and the Royals thread forever and it still comes up as a dig at them.

I think it was implied. Just as Meghan (and he) implied racism in the Oprah interview and then denied it in his ITV interview with a shaking of the head and a "the British press said that, did you hear Meghan say racism?". Plausible deniability.

I do think he interviews one way on ITV and another on 60 minutes. My guess is that is deliberate.
 
But why couldn't he have stayed in the military as a Captain? I would think there are many people in the military who, once they reach a certain level, either can't or don't want to rise above that rank. It's not like Harry never rose above Private.

Not trying to be argumentative, I'm genuinely curious. Harry has said he was sorry to leave the Army so I've always wondered why he had to leave.

I read somewhere - and I don't know if this is true or not, just repeating what I read - that Harry basically couldn't go any further than he did in the military because he didn't have a university degree. I.e. the positions that someone with his experience and service record would usually go into required a university degree.
 
I think it was implied. Just as Meghan (and he) implied racism in the Oprah interview and then denied it in his ITV interview with a shaking of the head and a "the British press said that, did you hear Meghan say racism?". Plausible deniability.

I do think he interviews one way on ITV and another on 60 minutes. My guess is that is deliberate.
I don't think it is implied, tbh. They don't want privacy -- they want press. They just want to be the ones in control of it. That's what he seems to be so mad about. H&M feel Harry's royal press office sold them out in favor of other royals at times, so now H&M are creating their own press office, of which they are in control, and he is using it to sell everyone else out.
 
I think Harry wrote it for catharsis.
I think Harry, like both of his parents before him, feels misunderstood; no one knows the truth and once they do, they will understand who he is and stop thinking such awful things about him. No one listens! No one sees the truth! No one understands his side of the story! LISTEN TO ME!

I don't know if this has been posted already (I'm not reading everything); apologies if it has been. But Ronald Reagan's daughter Patti Davis had some things to say about Harry's book from the perspective of someone who really understands:

My justification in writing a book I now wish I hadn’t written (and please, don’t go buy it; I’ve written many other books since) was very similar to what I understand to be Harry’s reasoning. I wanted to tell the truth, I wanted to set the record straight. Naïvely, I thought if I put my own feelings and my own truth out there for the world to read, my family might also come to understand me better.

Years ago, someone asked me what I would say to my younger self if I could. Without hesitating I answered: “That’s easy. I’d have said, ‘Be quiet.’” Not forever. But until I could stand back and look at things through a wider lens. Until I understood that words have consequences, and they last a really long time.
 
So your opinion is that royals don't deserve a life? That their mental health doesn't matter & that being hounded every time they step outside their door is just one of those things? You sound like the people who make celebrities lives a living hell. And you think even children deserve this because of their parent(s) fame or royal bloodline.

I saw an article today that used the phrase "Harry exhaustion". I think that's what I'm experiencing right now. He needs to take a step back & quit all the interviews if he wants to be relevant in the future. I remember when Mary Lou Retton won the Oly all-round & we saw her face on everything for ages. I was a fan but I got tired of her.
They are not just famous or royal. The are part of a head of state family. Harry spoke about having a chaperone who he generally liked so it’s not as if the kids aren’t given support that goes beyond parents and family. That’s because as being a governing family they have public responsibility
 
If the British military is like the American military, a person can only stay at a certain level for so long. If they are not promoted, they are out of the military. A person is generally a captain (if he or she is an officer) for the longest time, but eventually, they have to make major or get out.
 
I saw an article today that used the phrase "Harry exhaustion". I think that's what I'm experiencing right now. He needs to take a step back & quit all the interviews if he wants to be relevant in the future.
I'm pretty sure he is contractually required to do interviews to promote the book. But, how many interviews have you watched? There really don't seem to be that many, and they are easy to avoid watching. AFAIK, he's done one British interview to promote the book and is doing three American interviews. That doesn't seem like a lot for a book promotion. I remember when Michelle Obama released her memoir. She did a number of interviews, did a huge book tour, including arenas, and also a Netflix show. I think it was pretty easy to not watch her interviews and book promotion, and it is the same with Harry. He may step back from interviews soon, but I expect the tabloids will continue to release stories about Harry and Meghan. There's a reason for that. Lots of people want to read them and the tabloids make money. And it sounds like it is pretty easy for them to obtain material from the palace.
Why does anyone write a memoir? Harry's doesn't sound any worse than any other memoir out there. I think @MacMadame is on the right track. I think Harry wrote it for catharsis. If this helps with his mental health, I won't judge him. We also have no idea what is really in this book. The media has only glommed onto the most titillating parts, without context.
ITA. Context matters.
 
On another topic, this whole book revelation could be an example of how to burn bridges without really trying and making a lot of money. Good luck to them when the money dries up. What then?
Why would the money ever dry up? Heck, the Kardashians are still raking it in years after people thought their 15 minutes of fame would be over. Harry and Meghan have at least done things. Meghan can bring back her lifestyle blog, then create a fashion line and a makeup line. Oh and maybe the two of them can do a home goods line. :D Harry can give motivational talks to big corporations. Meghan can go back to acting. Plus he has millions from his inheritance(s) and can invest it (plus the stuff they earn) wisely to make it last.

Okay, this family is not normal, so what now? Should everyone run away to the US and start writing memoirs?
And sorry, I don't think it's a normal person who writes in his memoirs about his frostbitten penis, lip gloss, seals and mediums. Hopefully, in 30 years, his children will not write their memoirs.
I totally want to hear about their memoirs! :lol:
 
AFAIK, he's done one British interview to promote the book and is doing three American interviews. That doesn't seem like a lot for a book promotion.
It's not at all. Zoom has made book "tours" easier, but one thing that will make you tired of your favorite authors is hearing them on the fourth Zoom call where they're asked the same questions, give the same answers, read the same passages, and seem as bored as you are, although, once in a while, there will be a :kickass: interviewer who gets a fresh take.
 
hubby just came in from watching Anderson Cooper interviewing Harry to declare he is on ‘Team Harry”. We taped it so I will watch tomorrow. With regards to this thread, I do love how people are educated though by the Crown and English tabloids. You have to laugh.
 
And now a full evacuation of Montecito has been ordered - I wonder if Harry is still on tour, and if Meghan and the kids are with him?
 
Well on the Canadian news last night they said Harry was getting 40 million US for a 4 book deal so that's a pretty good paycheck. I wonder what his other 3 books are going to be about?
 
I read this take on Twitter and I have to say I kind of agree with it. That basically, so much about Harry is released to the press over the last few years, for whatever purpose (many reporters have come out saying that most of the negative news about H&M over the years was provided by KP/BP), that one of the reasons he released this book is to put everything out there on his terms, warts and all. Meaning that to him, there's less opportunity for something 'scandalous' to be released later in order to deflect from other members of the RF. If it's all out there, he can't be used as 'leverage' as easily going forward.

And also, people are saying it's not fair to air all this when the RF can't share their side. But IMO, from Harry's point of view, all we've seen the last few years is the RF's side, and this is his opportunity to share things from his POV. Do I believe his POV is 100% the truth of what really happened? Of course not. Do I believe there's a lot of truth there? Absolutely.

Though of course the press pick and choose and manipulate things. Like the excerpt about his time in the military comes across very different if you read what he actually wrote, compared to the press saying 'Harry murdered 25 members of the Taliban because he didn't think view them as people!'
 
I read this take on Twitter and I have to say I kind of agree with it. That basically, so much about Harry is released to the press over the last few years, for whatever purpose (many reporters have come out saying that most of the negative news about H&M over the years was provided by KP/BP), that one of the reasons he released this book is to put everything out there on his terms, warts and all. Meaning that to him, there's less opportunity for something 'scandalous' to be released later in order to deflect from other members of the RF. If it's all out there, he can't be used as 'leverage' as easily going forward.

And also, people are saying it's not fair to air all this when the RF can't share their side. But IMO, from Harry's point of view, all we've seen the last few years is the RF's side, and this is his opportunity to share things from his POV. Do I believe his POV is 100% the truth of what really happened? Of course not. Do I believe there's a lot of truth there? Absolutely.

Though of course the press pick and choose and manipulate things. Like the excerpt about his time in the military comes across very different if you read what he actually wrote, compared to the press saying 'Harry murdered 25 members of the Taliban because he didn't think view them as people!'
The problem is Harry and Meghan also leak. Finding Freedom
was something they were behind. Some members of the media are saying that they get a ton of leaks from Them more than from the royals.

They can say what they want but it is hypocrital to cut of Meghans father for talking to the press and doing the same themselves.

There is also a huge difference between the tabloids saying William is unhappy with Dad marrying Camilla and Harry saying it.


Harry is free to do what he wants but if he wants reconciliation with his family this isn’t the way to go about it.
 
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They are not just famous or royal. The are part of a head of state family. Harry spoke about having a chaperone who he generally liked so it’s not as if the kids aren’t given support that goes beyond parents and family. That’s because as being a governing family they have public responsibility
So obviously you don't believe that he had real grievances or at least none that were not comped by his priveledged life. As long as he had material things & a handler he liked he has no reason to complain. Ok then.
 
So obviously you don't believe that he had real grievances or at least none that were not comped by his priveledged life. As long as he had material things & a handler he liked he has no reason to complain. Ok then.
Speaking for myself, I think a grown adult with a list of grievances as long as his needs some serious therapy - and not whatever new-age gobbledygook therapy he is currently getting because, clearly, it isn't working, otherwise he wouldn't be sharing with the entire world some of the truly awful things he has said and done in his life with no degree of remorse or growth and maturity on his part. The story he recounts of the mocking the plain and physically disabled Matron at Ludgrove because, among other things, she didn't make him horny is just one example of the lack of awareness this 38-year old father of two has about life in general.
 
hubby just came in from watching Anderson Cooper interviewing Harry to declare he is on ‘Team Harry”. We taped it so I will watch tomorrow. With regards to this thread, I do love how people are educated though by the Crown and English tabloids. You have to laugh.
When I read things in here, it seems really bad but whenever I hear H&M talk in their own words in interviews, I find them pretty reasonable and their POV is understandable. This is one reason that I cautioned people to wait until the book it out and they can read these excerpts themselves in context rather than going by second-hand reports.
 
When I read things in here, it seems really bad but whenever I hear H&M talk in their own words in interviews, I find them pretty reasonable and their POV is understandable. This is one reason that I cautioned people to wait until the book it out and they can read these excerpts themselves in context rather than going by second-hand reports.
It's very easy to sound reasonable and think their POV is understandable when the interviewer isn't challenging them on much of what they claim to be factual. It's only after the interviews are aired that the holes are blown through their nice, pat, comfortable narrative. That's why Buckingham Palace's response to the Oprah interview was the word-perfect "recollections may vary."
 
Apparently in the book Harry admits that the staff was overworked to the point of tears.
 
whenever I hear H&M talk in their own words in interviews, I find them pretty reasonable and their POV is understandable
I think they sound like they have a point, until I realize they're doing the exact same things they're condemning the BRF for - sharing private information for their own gain, using the media to rehabilitate their image heedless of 'leaving bodies in the streets' in the process, attacking women with sexist stereotypes, gaslighting, refusing accountability, etc. Seems like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
 

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