I think they'll do fine, they just look like they weren't quite ready for competition honestly.
Oh, I don't agree with regard to GrePar's music edit. It still hits most of the major highlights and really builds in the last minute of the program - but GrePar do absolutely nothing with the natural crescendo they have in the music edit.I think it is the music's fault in this case, or rather the music's editing. Part of the problem with something like Rhapsody in Blue it cutting it down to something that's still cohesive, but in this case I think they kind of miss on any real type of highlights and maybe don't quite nail down the different moods. It'd be easier to chop down something like Copland's Clarinet Concerto (cpom seriously call me I have ideas).
But y'all had me thinking this was going to be much worse than it actually was.
From previous yrs. it looks like Patrice likes to get the look, feel,smoothness,speed and emotions out there on the first outings of a RD and then drill down on the yes, no's .
Which is a great strategy for teams that are almost guaranteed a season behind nationals - not so much for the rest
It didn't hit my favorite parts and that's what matters!!! I also kind of blame choreography because I think they are trying to be too lyrical in places where they shouldn't. But then I just wonder how much of this is just "we started late so we are still working on this I guess"
Cross-referenced from the Finlandia Dance thread:
So let's see what they do from here. I do think that Green's posture and carriage have improved significantly since last season. But there's so much to do on speed, edge quality, making the elements look natural and not so careful, and making the rather boring choreography sing. Either they need better choreography or they need to sell this more.
I don't agree here. Programs regularly change, often quite significantly, over the course of a season. I don't see any reason why they can't build more into this program, though I admit it is a bit underwhelming for them to find themselves in this position given the rise they seemed poised for at the end of last season and that things ended for them after 4CC.
And the Taschlers--it's time to remove the voiceovers. The judges hate it. You can care for the planet with pretty music alone, please.
Weirdly, I kind of like the last section of voiceovers, where they talk about Ice and its properties. Maybe keep the brief intro plus that. After all, all these skaters spend their lives surrounded by ice!
Suffice to say their season wasn't over after one performance.
They need to drop the newsreel part at the beginning. That's what sets the stage for the whole thing not to be taken seriously. We all know all that. Let's try a little nuance. Ice voice is okay but less of it. This thing can work, unless you really hate that climate change is serious.
I’m not at all surprised at where Green/Parsons are - they left their coaches in June, probably didn’t get really down to business until July with a new and less experienced coaching team. Was the change because of the Russians coming to their old coaches? Because they had from 4CCs on to work on this season and that time seems to have been squandered.I don't dislike all of MIDA's programs this season - I actually really like Wolfkostin/Chen's FD and think it could be great by Nationals. But I have to agree that none of their other programs really have me excited or invested yet (neither do any of the ones from Shpilband's teams of the Wheaton teams, FWIW). I liked the idea of Green/Parsons doing Rhapsody in Blue, so I was disappointed that I couldn't get into it.
I've honestly been wondering if MIDA took on too many higher-profile senior teams too quickly. They're still new and probably are still figuring a lot of things out about running their own school, even with Charlie, Tanith, and Greg's experience indepedently.
EDIT: Because I find it really humorous/dumb how fans will pronounce something a total success or failure after one exact competition (sometimes half a competition), I'll add that G/P said in their Anything GOEs interview that these programs are really new to them. Choreography as well as G/P's comfort with the program will change. Back in 2015, the Shibutani's had a really not great season debut at Ondrej Nepela Trophy with...Fix You.
I agree with you. I find with IAM (I watch their programs often as most of my fav.skaters are from there)that they start the season with elements well worked with speed, power and emotion & then you see later on more Y's and in between movements & added on parts to the elements which always looked to me that they always were meant to be there but until the program is perfected to death they would not fit in seamlessly. Just my opinion.
Was that Gadbois’ first year? To be fair, they already hit a jackpot with Romain Haguenauer.
Not their first year, no. According to Wiki & the Web archive, Hurtado & Diaz moved to train with Marie France & Patrice late 2011. I'm not sure who D&L coached in those early days, other than Spain's very own "what if" team, and the Danadians. I wouldn't be surprised if early Gadbois suffered from lack of technical aptitude in their skaters, vs. creativity and choreography. Marie France & Patrice weren't too boring until the very end of their career. (I still don't know how they made Somewhere In Time feel fresh...?)
