The Tzafit incident was on a much smaller scale, but the negligence - hard as it is to believe - was even worse. The organizers of the trip were sentenced to prison terms earlier this year.
For flash flooding, sirens are set off downriver when high waters are happening upriver. You can hear them before the flooding reaches you if you’re downriver.
This made me cry.“The River House Broke. We Rushed in the River.”
On July 4, the Guadalupe ripped our home from its pillars, pulling my family into its waters and into the night. Then morning came.
“The River House Broke. We Rushed in the River.”
The July 4 Texas flooding ripped our Kerr County home from its pillars, pulling us into the water and into the night. Then morning came.www.texasmonthly.com
I can't think of anything worse than losing your child. They will piece together recent history in Kerr county. I do think there was a few times that they asked the state for help with funds and there was money from the federal government as well that went to other projects instead of sirens. And I've read, because the number of false alarms, the permanent resididents didn't want sirens but that doesn't take care of the visitors to the area. I saw this and I can see their county board had a lot of opinionated voters. They will rush to do something now.
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Yes, but this:Another article on the warnings (or lack of)
Some officials in Tx are trying to blame NWS and NOAA for the disaster. However, those agencies had accurately predicted the heavy rains and life threatening floods.
Death on a Texas River
Journalists are piecing together what was — and wasn’t — done by Texas officials and the National Weather Service as the Guadalupe River roared over its banks.
I'm not sure rare. I think when the fire first erupts, it can travel pretty fast without a lot of notice. The Paradise fire was like that. And some of the fires in LA a few months ago. And the Lahaina fire. But once a fire has ripped through an area, it slows down.
I mean, sure, you can cherry pick those specific fires where they were fast-moving and didn't give people the chance to properly evacuate. I also know from my brother's experience working during the summer of '94 for the US Forest Service as a wildland firefighter that there are plenty more times when there is time & notice to evacuate. The examples you mention are, like the Tubbs Fire up in Santa Rosa, on the urban-woodland boundary and we're basically daring Mother Nature to not unleash a catastrophic fire on us.
If they wait too long nothing may be done. Immediate actions are necessary and they can keep adding more over some years, through planning. Getting sued will certainly motivate. People of those counties need to put pressure on key people.
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I didn't say it was common. I just don't think it's that rare.
It's one step above rare. 
I think this is my question as well. Everyone is talking about the money from the Biden administration and how it was used or misused. But before all of that I believe the county asked the state for one million dollars for warning systems and the state turned them down. They might have been refused more than once too. I saw a post from a man who said that the State of Texas spent over 220 million dollars to move migrants around but could not give Kerr County a million. I don't get it.
This thread might eventually have to go to the politics section, because there are definitely political (and other) factors that contributed to the extent of the disaster.
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