Spin Features Thread

[On My Own]

Continued from here: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...iculty-guidelines-for-marking-goe-pcs.110680/

I hope to see some of the requests for the features answered here (like @vu2019 was saying they'd give me an example of camel transitioning to layback), and collecting examples of some of the rarer features.

Acceleration used to be rare, now it's somewhat more common after it became part of the list of features necessary in a level 4 spin. I have never yet thought it's looked bad, unmusical, or out of place, so hope to see more using it. Would like to see difficult exit entirely out of the list - 5 features in the list for three spins in a program are enough.

 

[On My Own]

Can someone explain to me why Farris' combo spin only seems to have received level 2?

Joshua FARRIS U.S. Nationals 2015 SP

www.youtube.com

http://www.isuresults.com/seminars/TPHandbook_SingleSkating_2014-15.pdf

Going by the underlining, seems difficult change of position was introduced that season. Farris attempts:

1. Clear change of edge on camel
2. Difficult sit position (I think broken leg was still considered a difficult variation in 2015*)
3. Difficult upright position
4. Difficult change of position on same foot (upright to sit)
5. Difficult sit position

*even if not, still 4 features, and/or still confused as to why it's not level 3.

But he only got a level 2. https://skatingscores.com/1415/natusa/sr/men/i/short/usa/joshua_farris/

Why? eta: @gkelly

 

[On My Own]

Polina Edmunds doing a change of edge Biellmann https://youtu.be/bsaCaB1E1NA?t=312

 

[On My Own]

Xiangyi AN (CHN) | Women Short Program | Gdansk 2022 | #JGPFigure

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Change of direction, and then doing a very difficult upright position in the opposite direction.

 

[Bird]

Continued from here: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...iculty-guidelines-for-marking-goe-pcs.110680/

I hope to see some of the requests for the features answered here (like @vu2019 was saying they'd give me an example of camel transitioning to layback), and collecting examples of some of the rarer features.

Acceleration used to be rare, now it's somewhat more common after it became part of the list of features necessary in a level 4 spin. I have never yet thought it's looked bad, unmusical, or out of place, so hope to see more using it. Would like to see difficult exit entirely out of the list - 5 features in the list for three spins in a program are enough.

Combination Spins

I found this site - it’s more something to explain combination spins for fans/non experts. But it does mention one camel transitioning to a layback…

 

[On My Own]

Combination Spins

I found this site - it’s more something to explain combination spins for fans/non experts. But it does mention one camel transitioning to a layback…

Unfortunately, the link isn't working for me. I can enter the website, but cannot access the camel to layback video.

 

[Bird]

Unfortunately, the link isn't working for me. I can enter the website, but cannot access the camel to layback video.

I can’t get the Sarah Broxterman video to play either unfortunately. Here’s someone else doing the combo.

Camel layback combination spin

My coach and I finally fixed my camel spin! Her advice was to keep my left arm back as I step into the spin.First, a messed up spin to show what I was doing ...

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[On My Own]

I don't think that would be considered a difficult transition. Just a simple (even if very neat and clean) transition between the two positions.

 

[Bird]

I don't think that would be considered a difficult transition. Just a simple (even if very neat and clean) transition between the two positions.

I’m a non-skater so I can’t confirm, but that YouTube video is from 14 years ago and I couldn’t find any more recent versions. Maybe it isn’t scored highly and isn’t done much anymore? But someone who knows more could confirm. It looked like Sarah Broxterman also did a sit spin with hers, but I couldn’t find the video.

 

[vu2019]

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[flyingsit]

I would love to see a feature for clearly changing positions within 1 revolution.

 

[On My Own]

2017 GPF Kostner, Carolina FS ITA CBC

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I don't think this was a feature during this (2017-18) season, but it was during the 2010-2013 seasons? "All 3 basic positions on both feet". I'm not sure it was rare as much as just sloppy most of the time it was done, but Kostner's choreography here is nice and flowing between the camel to sit on the first foot, and then to sit to upright on the second foot.

Have to add one of the first instances of acceleration I'd seen:

Yu-Na KIM 2007 World Figure Skating Championships Short Program

Kim yuna 2007 world championships figure skating SP 'Tango de Roxane'Yu-Na KimYuna Kim's Official Website: http://www.yunakim.com/Yuna Kim's Official YT Cha...

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[LilJen]

Can someone explain to me why Farris' combo spin only seems to have received level 2?

Joshua FARRIS U.S. Nationals 2015 SP

www.youtube.com

http://www.isuresults.com/seminars/TPHandbook_SingleSkating_2014-15.pdf

Going by the underlining, seems difficult change of position was introduced that season. Farris attempts:

1. Clear change of edge on camel
2. Difficult sit position (I think broken leg was still considered a difficult variation in 2015*)
3. Difficult upright position
4. Difficult change of position on same foot (upright to sit)
5. Difficult sit position

*even if not, still 4 features, and/or still confused as to why it's not level 3.

But he only got a level 2. https://skatingscores.com/1415/natusa/sr/men/i/short/usa/joshua_farris/

Why? eta: @gkelly

Maybe there were some positions that weren't counted because it took too long for him to truly establish the position and there weren't at least two full revolutions after the position was established?

(side note: what a gorgeous skater. Career cut too short; wish he could have completed longer.)