Shooting in Colorado Walmart

[judiz]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...ting-at-colorado-walmart-police-idUSKBN1D2038

 

[AxelAnnie]

What the hell is wrong with people?

 

[missing]

What the hell is wrong with people?

Americans are overweight because of the easy accessibility of high caloric foods.

Americans have substance abuse problems because of the easy accessibility of alcohol, cigarettes, prescription drugs and illegal substances.

Americans have gambling problems because of the multiple methods of gambling, from lottery tickets to office pools to casino resorts.

Americans have debt problems because of the easy roads to credit.

Americans have violence problems because of the easy access to weapons.

If you make something easy for people, even if it's bad for them, a substantial number of the target market will succumb to the temptation. That, otherwise known as human nature, is what the hell is wrong with people.

 

[Aceon6]

Another socially isolated white male. Gawd help us.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Another socially isolated white male. Gawd help us.

and ugly as hell.... and with a criminal history..
http://media.thedenverchannel.com/p...900_1509645528328_70418760_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...em-had-run-ins-with-police-financial-troubles

Colorado court records show he has been arrested at least four times since 1990, when he was arrested on a harassment charge in Westminster. He was found guilty of the charge and sentenced to two days in jail.

In April 1991, Ostrem was charged with driving under the influence in Adams County, but he was never convicted, according to the court records.

In December 1999, he was charged in Denver with assault on a peace officer, possession of dangerous weapons, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. But he agreed to plead guilty to the resisting arrest charge in exchange for the other, more-serious charges being dismissed. He received a one-year deferred probation sentence in the case.

In January 2013, Ostrem was arrested by Wheat Ridge police on a DUI charge. But the charge was eventually lowered to driving while ability impaired, which he pleaded guilty to, according to the records. He received a one-year suspended jail sentence in that case.

 

[Buzz]

Thoughts and prayers to the victims and their loved ones.

 

[Vash01]

This news appeared on my iPad screen last night as breaking news, but not a lot of detail. Sadly I am so used to this kind of news that it is not that big a shock anymore.

Condolences to the families that lost members and RIP to those who lost their lives.

 

[skatesindreams]

Killing people in Walmart, is no solution for one's problems.

 

[misskarne]

Oh look, here we go again.

Yeah, but it's too early to talk gun control right?

 

[Tinami Amori]

Oh look, here we go again.

Yeah, but it's too early to talk gun control right?

No need to roll your eyes. Nobody said this time it is "too early".

On the contrary. There are many reasons given his history with police and over-all criminal history why he should not have been sold a gun.

If the gun he used is not stolen or illegally obtained, then the time line of when he bought it, vs. his police records should be looked into in detail.

 

[Kasey]

Not to derail the conversation....

but I'm wondering if an increase in serious mental health issues, with serious lack of mental health treatment, may also be a contributing factor in the increase in events such as this. As a nurse, it just seems that the number of patients with mental health issues has skyrocketed in the last 10-12 years, compared to my early years in the profession. Not just depression/anxiety, (not dissing these disorders, both of which I deal with, please don't take offense or assume I'm not saying depression and anxiety aren't serious) but more serious and hard to treat illnesses, such as schizophrenia, borderline, bipolar disorders, and antisocial disorders as well. Someone upthread said that killing people in Wal-Mart doesn't solve one's problems, and I would agree that most unimpaired, well-functioning individuals in society would not have to be told that; it's the outriders of society, either through mental illness or vowing oneself to a violent cause, that don't understand that premise.

 

[Angelskates]

Mental health and wellbeing should be at the forefront of any policy decisions and funding proposals as IMO wellbeing is a factor in all societal issues. People who have good mental health and wellbeing, can balance and manage their emotions etc. don't commit crimes of any sort, nor do they harm themselves or others. Most governments don't spend anywhere near enough money on this. That includes all the "serious" and "not so serious" mental distress people experience (diagnosis or not), they can all turn into something larger, especially with triggers so often in the media.

 

[ballettmaus]

WaPo perspective establishing a link between the homicide rate/violence and trust in the government/institutions. It also mentions that those with mental health problems are influenced by the general public's mood. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...8c702d2d975_story.html?utm_term=.2eddfb635216

 

[Choupette]

WaPo perspective establishing a link between the homicide rate/violence and trust in the government/institutions. It also mentions that those with mental health problems are influenced by the general public's mood. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...8c702d2d975_story.html?utm_term=.2eddfb635216

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I already had an intuition that with a president whose own mental health is not exactly optimal, it didn't help. It never occurred to me to look for studies or statistics.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I already had an intuition that with a president whose own mental health is not exactly optimal, it didn't help. It never occurred to me to look for studies or statistics.

Questioning "president's mental health" is a lame excuse of the bitter ones who don't like the election results...
May all who question "president's mental health" drink whatever he is drinking..... earning few billions and knowing how to win US Presidential elections makes people a lot less bitter...

 

[Tinami Amori]

The motive is revealed: He took LSD and heard demon's voices (not a joke).
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...rt-shooting-suspect-he-heard-voices-of-demons

(one must be totally nuts to take LSD and hear "deamons voices" instead of dancing, painting, singing, playing piano, seeing purple lines in the water and doing syncho-swimming moves.... LSD is for art... not shooting).

 

[AxelAnnie]

He should have been listening to a better channel.