Séguin and Bilodeau end skating partnership

[Rock2]

Body of Work is totally taken into consideration, but Skate Canada sensibly places by far the most weight on Nationals performance and apparent readiness to produce desired results in the Olympics.

I know they also look closely at performance through the season (I/M could hardly get to a 120 LP even when team was healthy) and I think the prior year(s) matter if you're winning medals in ISU major events. I/M may have been 'fabulous' but that's a subjective measurement and their results (score/medals) just weren't enough for SC to bend over backwards for them.

So, heading into nationals, D/R IMHO were the only pairs entry locked into Pyeonchang. Everyone else had to skate for it.

Having said all that, it's a major bummer that I/M had a downturn in 17-18. If only the Olympics were in 2017. Timing is almost everything sometimes....

 

[barbarafan]

I'm sure it's taken in to account, but that doesn't make a ton of sense. Everything can change in a year for an athlete and federation. If you have one pair that has continued to improve, just more slowly, and another that has taken a noticeable dip in performance & ability... why would you send the team struggling currently to the big game?

It's a great problem for a federation to have had - 4 decent teams and 3 spots. But it means there will never be a decision that makes everyone happy. There were times it seemed like S&B wouldn't make it there from injuries and bad programs, etc. It's unfortunate for FSU that the more popular team was the one that didn't go to the Olympics, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

There was no dip...There was a big crash which just needed time to heal.They were 6th the yr before with all the big teams there at world and are a big reason we had 3 sports this year. They should have been named and if the healing was too slow they would have stepped down.

 

[Moustaffask8r]

If Charlie is aiming for the podium, seems to me his aim is a wee bit lacking since he is now without a partner, and there doesn't seem to be any replacement part in the immediate future. That podium is a whole lot farther away than it was a week ago.

Maybe he can borrow Petrenko's blow up doll.

I think that his decision to make the move may in fact means that he has someone.. he has no obligation to tell .... he can wait a little. He's not stupid he wouldn't have made this move without an option.

 

[quartz]

I think that his decision to make the move may in fact means that he has someone.. he has no obligation to tell .... he can wait a little. He's not stupid he wouldn't have made this move without an option.

Lets hope you are right!

 

[Alvyne]

I think that his decision to make the move may in fact means that he has someone.. he has no obligation to tell .... he can wait a little. He's not stupid he wouldn't have made this move without an option.

He said he didn't have anyone and no tryouts were planned. But he must at least have an idea of the possibilities. You don't make a move like that with no guarantees. Who are the pair girls looking for partners in Canada? Or abroad?

 

[ChiquitaBanana]

You don't make a move like that with no guarantees. Who are the pair girls looking for partners in Canada? Or abroad?

Why not , if you think you have more to lose by staying than leaving?

 

[Tinami Amori]

He said he didn't have anyone and no tryouts were planned. But he must at least have an idea of the possibilities. You don't make a move like that with no guarantees. Who are the pair girls looking for partners in Canada? Or abroad?

People do get a divorce if they are unhappy in a partnership, without lining up another person to marry...

A man can say that yes, his goal to have a family, but not with this woman, and while he has not yet met his future wife, he does not see his future with the current one......

 

[kwanfan1818]

Of course.

The main point still holds....
....that not being on the Olympic team (for whatever reason) changed the landscape of their opportunities as a pair and likely had serious influence on their decision to split, go in different directions and seek fresh opportunities as individuals.

Whereas I think it was the injury that was the coup de grace, and had it not happened, they would have continued to skate, but in shows, at least for a few years, regardless of whether they made the Olympic team. And I think they would have been invited, with or without the Olympic berth.

 

[manhn]

I am pretty sure SC preferred the 2018 season than 2017 when it came to pairs. D&R won Olympic bronze and were instrumental in Canada getting team gold. MT&M matched that oh so awesome 6th place showing at Worlds.

 

[aftershocks]

"constipation"?

Or indigestion maybe is a better analogy for having an undigestible beef? Whatever. Fans of S/B have to digest the fact that they've split and simply wish them both well. And maybe try to relax and try to enjoy partaking in some tasty helpings of the good and improving teams Canada does have.

If Charlie and Julianne find good partners who click for them, things will be looking up after all. Developments will be interesting. Good luck to all.

 

[Coco]

Given what we now know should the thread title be edited to show that he's the one that ended the partnership?

 

[Carolla5501]

Given what we now know should the thread title be edited to show that he's the one that ended the partnership?

Seriously, "given what we know now" is one fact and LOT of theory. The title is still correct the partnership has ended.

It would seem to me the only reason to change it is to cast blame and is that really needed?

 

[Scrufflet]

Or indigestion maybe is a better analogy for having an undigestible beef? Whatever. Fans of S/B have to digest the fact that they've split and simply wish them both well. And maybe try to relax and try to enjoy partaking in some tasty helpings of the good and improving teams Canada does have.

If Charlie and Julianne find good partners who click for them, things will be looking up after all. Developments will be interesting. Good luck to all.

Love what you said. Missed the giggle emoji when responding!

 

[Scrufflet]

Given what we now know should the thread title be edited to show that he's the one that ended the partnership?

No.

 

[Japanfan]

This conversation has me thinking. Mirror pairs were BARELY able to be competitive under 6.0. Has IJS made them obsolete?

I wish pairs had more incentive to skate as mirrors (don't know if that is the correct term). I think it is really beautiful - and so nice to see movements that are not generic and over-used.

 

[Japanfan]

That's an interesting question, i'm not sure it's IJS that's made them obsolete, more that the pairs are self limiting and don't really happen that often anyway.

I agree with this. I just love mirror pairs, but see them so rarely - I think I can actually only remember one pair who did it, and do not recall who they were.

IMO the beauty and aesthetic of it is good enough reason to do it. Perhaps the judges should also reward it? I would think it requires some skill.

I also think that choreographers could have done a lot more interesting things with mirror pairs.

Absolutely.

I always wondered if it would look nice if a mirror pair tried an edge jump SBS so they came in from opposite directions and time the take off or landing to be right next to each other and then hold the exit edge until they are again next to each other.

Love that idea!

 

[Japanfan]

Then it was down hill from there. When she left for Canada, every one though oh now she is out of evil Russia and she will now be great in this free and lovy-dovy world... But we know how that went..... and she never skated better than that time in 2010.

The free and lovey-dovy western world gave Luba Cirque de Soleil, and SFAIK, she lovey-dovied her time there and did some amazing stunts. Skating again will just be the icing on the cake, and she may have an open invite to return to Cirque.

I rather doubt she homesick for Mother Russia, where she may be less free and life may be less lovey-dovey.

 

[aemeraldrainc]

I guess I’m looking forward to how it goes for Charlie & Lubov in their new partnership but at the same time I can’t forget Julianne and hope she finds a new partner soon if she decides to continue and her health allows. And hope they kick ass and prove people wrong.

 

[dramagrrl]

I am also rooting for Julianne. I really hope she is a) able to get fully healthy with no lingering problems from the concussions, and if so b) finds a new partner and is able to compete while healthy and happy.

 

[Tinami Amori]

The free and lovey-dovy western world gave Luba Cirque de Soleil, and SFAIK, she lovey-dovied her time there and did some amazing stunts. Skating again will just be the icing on the cake, and she may have an open invite to return to Cirque.

I rather doubt she homesick for Mother Russia, where she may be less free and life may be less lovey-dovey.

You're pulling up a post from July 2018 to reply to in April 2019? I have two estimates why you did that, and neither one of them is flattering to you...

At the same time, i do wish her luck with Bilodeau, because he had guts (without any details) for "this change".
Go Luba and Charlie... https://www.instagram.com/p/BvmF0w0gopa/

 

[Japanfan]

You're pulling up a post from July 2018 to reply to in April 2019? I have two estimates why you did that, and neither one of them is flattering to you...

TBH I had no idea your post was from July 2018. I didn't look at the date and thought it was a recent post. So, your unflattering theories are pointless.