Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

[BittyBug]

Like the team anesthesiologist who sits with the coach and skater in the kiss and cry?

Who has previously been suspended for doping (albeit in a different sport).

 

[coppertop1]

What are the odds that Eteri and company are going to face any consequences from this mess?

 

[Lilia A]

Consequences for Eteri? Imposed by Russia? None.

 

[jamesy]

She probably got a very stern talking-to for not covering her tracks better.

 

[ChelleC]

What are the odds that Eteri and company are going to face any consequences from this mess?

Slim to none.

 

[coppertop1]

Kamila will be stripped of her medals (and she should be. Rules are rules l). Russia will hopefully lose its gold in the Team Event. However, the real ones response will get away with it. Ugh.

 

[Firedancer]

RUSADA says the results of the Valieva’s doping case will be kept confidential due to her being a protected person.
https://twitter.com/anythinggoe/status/1583469810985635843?s=46&t=ouOirXvxu95zZLU4m7R4dQ

 

[Lilia A]

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I swear the whole protected person bs is the best thing to ever happen to Rusada. We'll find out the results when the team event medals are awarded, so in a couple years probably.

 

[Karen-W]

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I swear the whole protected person bs is the best thing to ever happen to Rusada. We'll find out the results when the team event medals are awarded, so in a couple years probably.

And it is the single biggest reason why the age minimum increase NEEDED to happen. Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong. And I say this as a fan of pairs where the age minimum increase is going to have a dramatic impact on several junior teams. But, it needed to happen - we can't have duplicitous organizations like the ROC and RUSADA using underage "protected person" status as a means to wiggle out of messes like this.

But, realistically, even though RUSADA is saying "oh, it's all going to be confidential..." Let's be real. The Russian press were the ones who outed Valieva's identity last February. Do we really think they won't obtain the ruling or results and publish them?

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

For some reason if everything was negative and she was cleared wouldn’t they want the results published? So if they want to confidential doesn’t that equal guilt Regardless of age, and all that

 

[care bear]

Does it mean Gold for USA, Silver for Japan and Bronze for Canada in Team Event?

 

[Lilia A]

For some reason if everything was negative and she was cleared wouldn’t they want the results published? So if they want to confidential doesn’t that equal guilt Regardless of age, and all that

No, because then they'll look bad (and by bad I mean even for Rusada's standards). If she's acquitted, they'd rather CAS make that call once the million appeals end. If in a few months or years the team event result remains unchanged and it's ROC-USA-JPN, then we won't necessarily know what Rusada's official decision was. Maybe they said "one month suspension" and Wada appeals. Maybe they said "reprimand, no penalty" and (obviously) Wada appeals. While neither affects the Olympic medals, how Rusada and their ability to carry out doping control (ha!) are perceived can be significantly different depending on what they decide.

 

[Lilia A]

Does it mean Gold for USA, Silver for Japan and Bronze for Canada in Team Event?

Only if Valieva's suspension goes beyond February 2022. Anything less than that and it's ROC-USA-JPN. We likely won't know who gets what and who gets what when for a long long time.

 

[Bouffantrex]

RUSADA says the results of the Valieva’s doping case will be kept confidential due to her being a protected person.
https://twitter.com/anythinggoe/status/1583469810985635843?s=46&t=ouOirXvxu95zZLU4m7R4dQ

RUSADA is a joke. As if we weren't already aware.

Does it mean Gold for USA, Silver for Japan and Bronze for Canada in Team Event?

Sure! Probably in two or three years. Ridiculous. The Russians shouldn't be anywhere near the Olympics for the foreseeable future as they clearly don't give a shit about clean sport.

 

[coppertop1]

Russia needs to be banned. How can anyone trust them?

 

[Wyliefan]

It's a terrible shame, because they have so much talent -- but yes, they do. They have pulled so much crap and they're completely shameless about it.

 

[coppertop1]

It's a terrible shame, because they have so much talent -- but yes, they do. They have pulled so much crap and they're completely shameless about it.

Kamila's free skate this season is proof of that. They don't care.

 

[Cachoo]

Kamila's free skate this season is proof of that. They don't care.

If she was donning a hood I'd rather she point directly at her coaching team just like the Ghost of Christmas Future points the way for Scrooge. They are at fault after all. And if not them maybe . She's old enough for her own cup for chrissakes!

 

[Braulio]

So the Team Event medals will be awarded like 3 years later once Valieva is not a minor?

 

[caseyedwards]

Russia needs to be banned. How can anyone trust them?

Until when

 

[coppertop1]

Until when

Permanently. Enough is enough

 

[angi]

Judging by how Valieva and her coaches looked at the fake GP if any news came today it was definitely very good news.

 

[rfisher]

Judging by how Valieva and her coaches looked at the fake GP if any news came today it was definitely very good news.

That may have had more to do with how pleased they were with her skate, which was very good.

 

[angi]

That may have had more to do with how pleased they were with her skate, which was very good.

She could have had the skate of her life and I still imagine they would not be THAT happy if they knew a substantial punishment is coming their way. I'm not saying they know anything, I'm saying they definitely don't look like people who got bad news today.

 

[rfisher]

She could have had the skate of her life and I still imagine they would not be THAT happy if they knew a substantial punishment is coming their way. I'm not saying they know anything, I'm saying they definitely don't look like people who got bad news today.

Maybe. They weren't all that happy with Akateva's skate.

 

[barbarafan]

RUSADA says the results of the Valieva’s doping case will be kept confidential due to her being a protected person.
https://twitter.com/anythinggoe/status/1583469810985635843?s=46&t=ouOirXvxu95zZLU4m7R4dQ

Thats ok... after all the times i've read and typed her name over the past yr. I still have trouble spelling it.

 

[Lilia A]

Another non-update update, but sort of update. According to THIS, Rusada has either not made a decision on the Valieva case or they have yet to notify Wada. Wada will go straight to the CAS if there is no solution soon. I don't know what "soon" means though.

 

[On My Own]

How long does it even take to write "lol we aint giving you that gold medal bitches"?

 

[Trillian]

I’m curious about what it means for WADA to go to CAS. Technically since RUSADA was supposed to be conducting the investigation, WADA presumably doesn’t have the results yet. So what are they asking CAS to do, in this scenario? Allow WADA (or another third party) to conduct an investigation of their own? Impose some kind of penalty based on the information they have so far? If so, does that penalty only apply to Valieva, allowing any of the responsible adults to get away with whatever they did? Or are they also proposing some kind of institutional penalties anyway due to RUSADA’s failure to act?

This is a pretty vague threat, IMO.

 

[Bigbird]

Kamila's free skate this season is proof of that. They don't care.

Yes they care. They care about winning at all costs regardless of their talent. Its all about domination with them.