Royalty Thread #9. Welcome Archie, the red headed heir, don’t care!

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canbelto said:
Harry and Meghan made an appearance at the Yankees/Sox game:
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Play Ball! Prince Harry & Meghan Markle Attend First MLB Game in London Between Yankees & Red Sox

Prince Harry threw the first pitch at a New York Mets game during his 2010 visit to the U.S.
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I like the dress Meghan is wearing. I wonder where the Tower of London conspirators are now, and also where the "Archie is a doll" people are, considering Meghan definitely still looks post-baby.
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I kind of like the dress, but why are they both dressed in all black? It's not a funeral; baseball is fun. Her wardrobe is so dark and depressing 95% of the time. Get a stylist, Meghan.

As for looking post-baby...I suspect she's not going to see the weight go as quickly as Kate did every time. Her genes are not as good as Kate's.
 
Seeing her in flats really points out the difference in height between her and Harry. I like the dress, she looks good. And I too wear black in the summer, and not just when I'm going to a funeral. I have "fun" in black too.
 
Women who favor black and navy blue tend to stick to that look for life. I have friends who have literally 50 black and navy blue dresses. Nothing will ever convince them that dark gray or a lighter blue might work.
 
I also like the dress and shoes - after all no one wears heels to a baseball game :). I would like to see her wear lighter colours - especially on a hot summers day - but she likes her dark/navy blues and blacks and she seemed very happy and relaxed.

And no surprise to see she might be heading off to Wimbledon to see Serena play. The question is do you gamble and assume Serena will make the 2nd week at least after all it is Serena we are talking about ;).
 
I think there are so many opportunities for people to criticize what royals wear that I can’t blame them for taking the safe route. Meghan has worn some bright colours - I remember a lovely yellow dress. She probably has also only bought a few things as her shape will continue to change over the next few months. No point in buying a whole new wardrobe now. She would be criticized for that!
 
Kate (Duchess of Cambridge) used to be a very heavy smoker and I don;t know if she still smokes, but if she does that could be one way she cuts down on baby weight so quickly. But I actually think Kate is one of those women whose weight fluctuates a lot -- sometimes she looks skeletal, other times healthy, and all within a matter of weeks. It's her long, ectomorphic frame that gives her the illusion of always being super thin but she definitely seems to drop and add pounds quickly.
 
Japanfan said:
Good question. I would think first by modeling high intelligence (i.e. parents/teachers displaying it through conversations/choice of reading materials) and demonstrating that it is of value. Second, through encouraging activities that promote intelligence (debating, participating in spelling bees).

Of course, we are only referring to intellectual intelligence here. There are other kinds of intelligence. Royals would need to exercise a high level of social/emotional intelligence in their daily dealings with the public as well as dealings with leaders and dignitaries.
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canbelto said:
Kate (Duchess of Cambridge) used to be a very heavy smoker and I don;t know if she still smokes, but if she does that could be one way she cuts down on baby weight so quickly. But I actually think Kate is one of those women whose weight fluctuates a lot -- sometimes she looks skeletal, other times healthy, and all within a matter of weeks. It's her long, ectomorphic frame that gives her the illusion of always being super thin but she definitely seems to drop and add pounds quickly.
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I would be surprised if Kate smokes with kids around. She had that horrible nausea at the beginning of each pregnancy...i would assume she started out by losing weight
 
mag said:
Given the way BOTH Charles and Diana behaved during and at the end of their marriage, I am not sure either should be credited with great emotional intelligence or people skills.
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Sorry to go OT again, but I don't think most people would score their best on emotional intelligence or people skills if they were in a doomed, difficult and troubled marriage that was approaching its ultimate demise.
 
Japanfan said:
Sorry to go OT again, but I don't think most people would score their best on emotional intelligence or people skills if they were in a doomed, difficult and troubled marriage that was approaching its ultimate demise.
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Or it could be that it was a doomed, difficult, and troubled marriage because they lacked emotional intelligence and interpersonal skills. The way I look at it, they didn’t ruin two marriages so that is a positive. Yes, I know Diana was young when they got married, but she was old enough to have two teenage or preteen sons when they got divorced. Both Charles and Diana owed it to their kids to put on their big boy/girl pants and deal with their differences without airing their dirty laundry in public or scaring their children. They were apparently incapable of doing that.

(This coming from someone who was a huge Diana fan back in the day.)
 
I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion but I always find the optics of royals visiting impoverished former British colonies very cringeworthy. There is nothing worse than pampered, privileged royals getting feted and honored in countries where there is such poverty and income inequality. I felt this way when William and Kate visited India and Kate played cricket in high heels and walked around the Taj Mahal in her designer clothes, and I feel the same way about Harry and Meghan AND William and Kate's upcoming tours. Not that I don't think the royals should travel or tour -- that is part of their job. But I feel like they should go with a purpose, the way Sophie recently made a trip to Lebanon to visit refugee camps or Diana campaigned against land mines. But to go just to go ... sometimes it seems like a very lavish paid vacation when ordinary citizens can't even afford the most basic living requirements. Yeah I know it's tradition but I've always hated it. Ok. Rant over.
 
@canbelto I am really hoping that William and Kate take a child centered focus on this tour. They could do some real good if they worked with organizations who are focused on early childhood and making sure kids get a good start in life. Same if they put the focus on women and what the women need help with which can help them make a better life for their families.
 
mag said:
Or it could be that it was a doomed, difficult, and troubled marriage because they lacked emotional intelligence and interpersonal skills. The way I look at it, they didn’t ruin two marriages so that is a positive.
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I find your view super judgemental, although of course you are entitled to your opinion. So many marriages are difficult and troubled, and perhaps doomed as well. I don't think every person in such a marriage is lacking in emotional intelligence and interpersonal skills. Marriages often fail because of a lack of compatibility and a lack of shared goals. And sometimes people change and love just fades away.

OTOH, there are plenty of people in miserable marriages who stay married for their whole lives because divorce is taboo, or 'for the kids', or in the case of women, because they have no means to survive/earn income on their own.

Diana was very young when she married, and it's not hard to understand the allure of becoming a princess and having a fairytale wedding. Lots of young women make mistakes in romance. It must have been exceptionally painful and lonely for her to have been married to a man who was in love with someone else. SFAIK, she handled her situation with grace and dignity, although did harm to herself through builimia.

Yes, I know Diana was young when they got married, but she was old enough to have two teenage or preteen sons when they got divorced.
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Girls can have children at 12, 13, 14. Having children is unfortunately not a sign of maturity.

Both Charles and Diana owed it to their kids to put on their big boy/girl pants and deal with their differences without airing their dirty laundry in public or scaring their children. They were apparently incapable of doing that.
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Airing dirty laundry in public goes hand in hand with being a royal. Loss of privacy is one of the big costs that royals pay. And if there is no dirty laundry, the media will drum some up.

Also, William and Harry have grown into decent young men, or at least appear to be. Their parents played a role in that.
 
mag said:
@canbelto I am really hoping that William and Kate take a child centered focus on this tour. They could do some real good if they worked with organizations who are focused on early childhood and making sure kids get a good start in life. Same if they put the focus on women and what the women need help with which can help them make a better life for their families.
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That would be nice ... if it actually happened. But the format of these tours is usually very structured. Plane arrival, gaggle of photographers, honorary dinner, some daytime "local flavor" event in which very white/privileged/pampered royals have an activity that shows how the ordinary people live, then a night-time dinner with more honors. Fly to another area, wash, rinse, repeat. The format of these tours seems like a throwback to colonial times and it's always awful.
 
canbelto said:
I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion but I always find the optics of royals visiting impoverished former British colonies very cringeworthy. There is nothing worse than pampered, privileged royals getting feted and honored in countries where there is such poverty and income inequality. I felt this way when William and Kate visited India and Kate played cricket in high heels and walked around the Taj Mahal in her designer clothes, and I feel the same way about Harry and Meghan AND William and Kate's upcoming tours. Not that I don't think the royals should travel or tour -- that is part of their job. But I feel like they should go with a purpose, the way Sophie recently made a trip to Lebanon to visit refugee camps or Diana campaigned against land mines. But to go just to go ... sometimes it seems like a very lavish paid vacation when ordinary citizens can't even afford the most basic living requirements. Yeah I know it's tradition but I've always hated it. Ok. Rant over.
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One could argue that the wealth and privilege of the royals is in itself offensive. There is plenty of poverty and income inequality in the western developed world also, although not on the same scale or of the same severity as poverty in poor countries.

But people in the Commonwealth and the world at large do seem to love the royals, generally - TBH, I never did quite understand it.

And just look at the amount of :argue: there is about Kate and Megan's clothes and accessories and general behavior on this board! People do like to talk about the royals at length. Perhaps it's a form of escapism.
 
mag said:
This link seems to have a few more photos of Harry and Meghan. I would say that motherhood seems to really agree with Meghan. She looks relaxed and happy.

www.eonline.com

Meghan Markle Makes Surprise Appearance at Baseball Game With Prince Harry...and Archie Gets Gifts!

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex attended the Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees game at the London Stadium in support of his Invictus Games Foundation on Saturday.
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Nice pics! Meghan looks great. And yes, nice to see a Royal in flats for a change! (Make it a trend! ;))
 
skatesindreams said:
Details about the Duchess of Sussex' Eternity Ring:
www.harpersbazaar.com

Duchess Meghan’s New Ring Is a Beautiful Tribute to Her Family

"Meghan was touched," a source tells BAZAAR.com of the anniversary gift from Harry.
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Ahhh, I love the birthstones! I assume if they have another the child it would be easy enough to change out one of the diamonds for another birthstone. What a thoughtful gift.

Comment about the flats Meghan was wearing. I couldn’t get a good look, but very flat shoes with a thin sole are actually no better for your feet/legs/back than high heels. I still thought it was a cute look, but if we are looking for comfortable ergonomic footwear, probably the royal ladies is not the place to be looking!
 
mag said:
Ahhh, I love the birthstones! I assume if they have another the child it would be easy enough to change out one of the diamonds for another birthstone. What a thoughtful gift.

Comment about the flats Meghan was wearing. I couldn’t get a good look, but very flat shoes with a thin sole are actually no better for your feet/legs/back than high heels. I still thought it was a cute look, but if we are looking for comfortable ergonomic footwear, probably the royal ladies is not the place to be looking!
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I'm not sure that the ring really has birthstones or that that story has a real source. The photos accompanying the version I saw showed her not even wearing the band. :rolleyes:

I can't wear very flat shoes. Traditional slip on ones barely stay on my feet. And strappy sandal type ones that do stay on are more uncomfortable for me than wearing heels. Most sources about foot health say that a low heel is better than a totally flat shoe particularly because the very flat ones don't usually have any arch support.
 
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