Royalty Thread#12 Tiaras, Palaces & Gilded Cages

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Most women end up with a bit of belly flab that never goes away after having a baby (unless you have cosmetic surgery) but it's carried differently than an actual baby. That's what I see with Meghan.

Now, obviously, I could be wrong. But hopefully she is taking precautions because having another baby so soon after just having a baby isn't recommended for medical reasons.
 
This is very brave of you. IIRC you don't have kids either.

No I don't have kids. But I still have perceptions, right or wrong as they may be.

And I don't see anything brave about saying what I said. Unless I'm to be :EVILLE: because of what I said, in which case I'll just shrug it off.
 
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Read again what you wrote. It was, IMHO, a nasty thing to say. If you had just said “she looks pregnant to me” that would be completely different.

Of course it appears to you a nasty thing to say. If someone else had said it I'm sure it would have been fine. Get off my case & quit trolling me.
 
I really don't care if Meghan is pregnant or not, but that is a fabulous color on her and she should wear more stuff like that and less bleh neutrals. Also, bigger earrings next time.

In other royal news...

Someone at Princess Estelle's school has tested positive for the coronavirus, yikes:

Has anyone been following this absolutely :eek: story?
 
In other news Camila is continuing to speak out about domestic violence.


This is such an important topic and in my experience women of all socioeconomic classes often have no access to resources and a severe lack of knowledge about the topic.
 
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Has anyone been following this absolutely :eek: story?

I have but wasn't sure if it was toooo :eek: for here.

And of course it really highlights the fact that the stuff that Camilla has been speaking on again today around coercive control and domestic violence really does cross status, cultural, wealth lines. Very sad. Camilla's engagement was timely.
 
I have but wasn't sure if it was toooo :eek: for here.

And of course it really highlights the fact that the stuff that Camilla has been speaking on again today around coercive control and domestic violence really does cross status, cultural, wealth lines. Very sad. Camilla's engagement was timely.

Domestic violence can actually be worse among the affluent, as the pressure to maintain a perfect facade in front of VIP's contributes to the victim's isolation.


Victims are also more reluctant to press charges for fear of publicity. I'm glad Camila is speaking up about this important issue. Actually I'm glad she's continuing to do important work with this issue. It's not warm and fuzzy and glamorous which is why it's so important to have a strong advocate for domestic violence victims.
 
About the baby talk, kittyjake asked a question on page 15 and a number of people responded. None of us are spreading pregnancy rumors by wondering or speculating whether or not Meghan is pregnant. There's no need for the 'I'm a Mom and you're not' pearl-clutching. :drama: I'm not sure what mag is so worked up over. @taf2002 said nothing wrong in her response, IMHO.

We are 'royal observers' making observations, and none of us always agree with each other. I haven't had the privilege of giving birth to a child either, but that doesn't stop me from knowing something about it through my sisters and my female cousins. I realize the experience and the aftermath are different for everyone. Most likely Meghan is not pregnant at the moment. I tend to think M&H might wait till the end of 2020 or early 2021 to start trying for a second child, but who knows! We really can't predict with any certainty what their personal family plans are.

Meghan is short-waisted, long-legged, and very curvy on top but rather narrow below the waist. So dresses are going to look a bit bunched on top. Kate on the other hand is very long-waisted and has a very straight figure, so dresses will fit her differently.

That's actually a good way of looking at it I think. There have been a few issues with the fit of some of Meg's clothes, even a few custom made items. I think the issue with one shoulder of her wedding dress (albeit slight) was probably due to her losing weight, and the dress having to be adjusted at the last minute. The gorgeous double-bonded silk cady fabric obviously has a tendency to crease a bit when sitting. Still, the dress was beautifully made, and Meghan must have felt exquisitely happy wearing it. The dress has a simple, classic style that will stand the test of time, unlike Diana's wedding dress.

Better yet for English tea sandwiches: humus, cucumber, and smoked salmon on pumpernickel and white bread

Ooooh, according to the infamous Dan Wootton of The Sun, Harry and the Queen dined on "poached salmon and salad" with tea, during their '4-hour' visit together. :lol:

I don't read Wootton in The Sun, but I saw an excerpted, on-point summary and assessment here: :eek:


The comments section spills all the tea! And I do mean all. :watch:
 
Meanwhile, I've been looking at and I'm still loving Meg's Victoria Beckham stunner from last evening. I love the zippered back and the small slit at the dress' back center hem. Cool.

Yesterday, Meghan was captured leaving a London hotel wearing one of her wrap camel coats and the most gorgeous shoes! Underneath the coat, she was wearing a white Top Shop blouse with a barely visible quilt-patterned white-on-white Roland Mouret pencil skirt, with a slit up the middle. Simple, elegant chic, as usual. Meghan was heading to a visit with principals at her National Theatre patronage, including Director, Rufus Norris. :)


https://www.instagram.com/p/B9ZbYJWJZvB/ Instagram photos of the visit

I love those pretty black shoes with her outfit -- the thin, delicate straps are a nice feature. The key to Meghan's style is that she knows how to dress for her body. Her signature is classic yet casual simplicity, with an edgy personal vibe.

Apparently, the Roland Mouret skirt fabric is Moka Jacquard, and there's a small slit at the back of the skirt in addition to the front slit. There's close-up detail of Meghan's clothes and accessories at the below site. I especially love seeing the close-up of the pretty Aquazzura open-back shoes with multiple straps. I would never wear stiletto heels like that though. ;)

The details about the saying on the love pendant Meghan wore with the white ensemble, I hadn't seen previously:
https://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/ Scroll down for pictures and pendant details

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Earlier today Meghan made an unannounced visit to London's Robert Clack Secondary School in the borough of Dagenham. Clear pictures and videos aren't available yet.
 
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Meanwhile, I've been looking at and I'm still loving Meg's Victoria Beckham stunner from last evening. I love the zippered back and the small slit at the dress' back center hem. Cool.

Yesterday, Meghan was captured leaving a London hotel wearing one of her wrap camel coats and the most gorgeous shoes! Underneath the coat, she was wearing a white Top Shop blouse with a barely visible quilt-patterned white-on-white Roland Mouret pencil skirt, with a slit up the middle. Simple, elegant chic, as usual. Meghan was heading to a visit with principals at her National Theatre patronage, including Director, Rufus Norris. :)


https://www.instagram.com/p/B9ZbYJWJZvB/ Instagram photos of the visit

I love those pretty black shoes with her outfit -- the thin, delicate straps are a nice feature. The key to Meghan's style is that she knows how to dress for her body. Her signature is classic yet casual simplicity, with an edgy personal vibe.

Apparently, the Roland Mouret skirt fabric is Moka Jacquard, and there's a small slit at the back of the skirt in addition to the front slit. There's close-up detail of Meghan's clothes and accessories at the below site. I especially love seeing the close-up of the pretty Aquazzura open-back shoes with multiple straps. I would never wear stiletto heels like that though. ;)

The details about the saying on the love pendant Meghan wore with the white ensemble, I hadn't seen previously:
https://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/ Scroll down for pictures and pendant details

ETA:
Earlier today Meghan made an unannounced visit to London's Robert Clack Secondary School in the borough of Dagenham. Clear pictures and videos aren't available yet.

Thanks for all the links you provide. I don't think we tell you enough.
 
There's really a lot out there about Meghan in terms of pre-Harry interviews, fashion videos, Suits promos, etc. Plus her former Instagram and her Tig lifestyle website were the bomb in terms of telling us all about who she is as a person. Both were shuttered obviously, but pictures (not posts) from her Instagram are available in two different Youtube videos (which I've posted in past royalty threads). And there are a couple of websites that have archived material from Meghan's Tig, which is cool, so that who she is and what she created with that website are not completely lost. Meghan's Mirror and Meghanpedia are the two sites which archive material from the shuttered Tig website.

I recently came across the below cool pic of Meghan with her dear friend, Markus Anderson, which I hadn't seen previously. It was taken I believe sometime in the fall of 2016 in Toronto, as they were on a shopping errand:
The above photo epitomizes Meghan's cool, casual chic, and her air of simply being comfortable in her own skin.

Here's another iconic photo of Meghan with her 'like a brother' friend, Markus (in pre-Harry, NY Fashion Week days):

The above photo epitomizes for me Meghan's uber cool and her joie de vivre sense of fun. Of course, marriage and maturity and having a baby brings changes. But at her essence, I don't think Meghan has changed very much.
 
Why Meghan intrigues me is not that I think she's above anyone else. It's just that she's remarkably well-adjusted, upbeat and so at ease in being herself, without fear. I'm sure she often experiences nerves and uncertainty, but the reason she achieved success in her acting career is because she never gave up, even during the most difficult, down period of going on multiple auditions and being rejected. She found ways to keep her spirits up and to persevere, with her eyes steadily focused on the prize. Her efforts were rewarded many times over once she landed the role in Suits that seemed made-for-her. Moreover, throughout building her career, Meghan always continued to think of others and to give back. I find her to be unique and inspirational. And yes, she's also been naive in some ways and not without flaws. But being smart, forthright, badass and admittedly ambitious are none of her flaws!

I don't think it can be underestimated how much moving to Toronto and meeting/ bonding with a number of key friends made a huge difference in Meghan's life. Loyal friends are like manna from heaven, and she has a warm, devoted, well-connected inner circle. As Meghan said on her former Instagram: Find Your Tribe, Love Them Hard.

Meghan meeting Harry was simply serendipity, for both of them. The fact they've nurtured and made sacrifices to maintain their rare love, is what observers should recognize first. In my estimation, they are very much equal partners. Meghan has a male energy as a Leo, but she's all female, and then some. :kickass: Harry has a feminine energy as a Virgo, but make no mistake, he's all male, and I bet he 'wears the pants' in the Sussex household!

The constant negative tabloid narrative that has been ratcheted up against the Sussexes has only served to bring them closer together. People can continue getting all hot and bothered about wanting to know who's going to pay for their security costs, but that's just a straw dog put out there to drum up negativity against them. It works for some people. In reality, M&H require high level security, and they will receive it without a detailed rundown of how it's paid for. When outside the U.K., they will likely pay a portion, and probably so will Prince Charles. Meghan and Harry also have well-heeled friends who may help out if it comes down to them needing additional assistance. The whole brouhaha over the use of 'royal' was meant as a slap-in-the-face which has boomeranged because M&H don't need use of the word 'royal,' in order to continue exuding a 'royal,' glamorous, yet down-to-earth aura wherever they go.

 
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Meghan meeting Harry was simply serendipity, for both of them. The fact they've nurtured and made sacrifices to maintain their rare love, is what observers should recognize first. In my estimation, they are very much equal partners. Meghan has a male energy as a Leo, but she's all female, and then some. :kickass: Harry has a feminine energy as a Virgo, but make no mistake, he's all male, and I bet he 'wears the pants' in the Sussex household!
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:lol::lol::lol: Don't tell me you believe in that horoscope crap.
 
Domestic violence can actually be worse among the affluent, as the pressure to maintain a perfect facade in front of VIP's contributes to the victim's isolation.

The poor may also have more community-oriented lives, with people nearby to step in when abuse occurs.
 
Victims are also more reluctant to press charges for fear of publicity. I'm glad Camila is speaking up about this important issue. Actually I'm glad she's continuing to do important work with this issue. It's not warm and fuzzy and glamorous which is why it's so important to have a strong advocate for domestic violence victims.
Eys.

I am also glad that Princess Haya is speaking up, albeit through the legal process. May she be a role model for others.
 
Looking at all of these photos of Meghan and Harry looking exhilarated doing public appearances and engagements, I do wonder what the point of leaving was? If they are enjoying it as much as they seem to be, why leave? I'd get it if they did not like public life, but they seem estactic to be doing these appearances - Harry dressed up in the full bling of the royal garb and everything. Why not just stay and do good work in Great Britain and the Commonwealth?
 
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:lol::lol::lol: Don't tell me you believe in that horoscope crap.

You don't have to believe in things mysterious and unseen, for such unseen shizz to have an impact on your personality and on your choices and ultimately on your life. Staying in the blind is just fine, as is being all over the place with your views. Meanwhile, don't let my views and beliefs give you a moment's pause.
 
Looking at all of these photos of Meghan and Harry looking exhilarated doing public appearances and engagements, I do wonder what the point of leaving was? ... Why not just stay and do good work in Great Britain and the Commonwealth?

Wow. So many people just do NOT get it. That's probably because your head is so full of the British tabloid kool-aid nonsense. :lol:

The fact is: Meghan and Harry wished to do more work, not less. They also want to be hands-on and in-depth with everything they do in order to have true and meaningful impacts in helping others. According to what they've said, they felt stifled, limited, isolated and restricted in their ability to do more work within the royal fold. And as I've revealed here previously, and as a lot of people know behind-the-scenes, and as Cambridge fan RR Katie Nicholl admonished in print: "The Sussexes need to dim their light..."

Bottom line: The Cambridges are not comfortable with M&H being who they are. There's no way M&H can change who they are or 'dim their light' (whatever that means) within the royal fold. So the best thing for the Sussexes to do is to leave, so the Cambridges can have the royal spotlight to themselves. What is it about this reality that anyone here continues to not understand?

The Sussexes are not afraid of working or of serving the monarchy. They still wished to serve the Queen, and they desired to do more work as senior royals and to make more of their own decisions. Moreover, they desire to stop being harassed and continually lied upon by the British media. Apparently, that is too much for them to ask. Their desire to continue in part-time senior royal roles was scotched by the royal firm. What has been going on behind-the-scenes has been toxic and not conducive for the Sussexes to lead a happy, purposeful life.

The press characterizing their desire to continue as part-time royals as 'having cake and eating it too,' is a straw dog and a lie, as I said earlier. There has been push-back against the Sussexes behind palace walls, along with the media harassment, simply because they 'shine too much.' They are too good at being themselves and engaging with the public, and working hard. If you can't understand that irony, then you're missing a big key to what's been happening.

The Sussexes will definitely be missed as senior royals, but it is what it is. The Queen and Prince Charles had the opportunity to work out a better arrangement with the Sussexes, but they preferred to adhere to the advice of royal courtiers, and to William's pique and temper tantrums. The Sussexes were told to 'dim their light with a stiff upper lip.' And then they were told they could not be part-time senior royals, 'It's all or nothing as senior royals.' So, the Sussexes chose their freedom over continuing to be used and abused within the royal fold.

M&H are certainly fulfilling their final duties as senior royals with a lot of style and panache over the last several days. I'm happy for the Sussexes being able to have some freedom and privacy in North America, and I appreciate the fact that they are giving their true supporters such a lovely series of final royal public events in great style. They exude magic together, regardless of anything negative their critics will continue to nitpick about. :D

The royal family can keep their 'HRH' and their 'royal' word. Meghan & Harry are their own royal brand. They don't need official use of the word 'royal' because they uniquely possess a 'royal' aura and their love for each other exudes 'royal' magic.
 
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Yup blame it all on the Cambridges :rolleyes:

^^ Well, sorry. I would love for the Fab Four royals to be a reality. That's how I looked at the Sussexes and the Cambridges well before M&H's royal wedding. I thought relations between the couples was some version as depicted in the first Lifetime movie of M&H's romance. The Cambridges were depicted as being comfortably married and smiling benignly and supportively upon Meghan and Harry. I was completely surprised to find out about the real-life friction between William and Harry that took on greater proportions once Harry met Meghan. I had thought Harry's family would be so happy for him finding his soul mate and settling down, and leading a healthier, purpose-filled lifestyle. I had a hard time believing what I learned about William's behind-the-scenes personality until it simply became readily apparent, with receipts, subtle and difficult to track and understand as those receipts may be for some folk.

Perhaps it was inevitable, and perhaps the Sussexes' 'stepping back' is also in a strange way necessary for the growth of the monarchy in the long term, or else its demise. We'll see how it all plays out.

Meanwhile, one of the photographers who took the gorgeous photo of M&H in the rain, with the lights and the backdrop looking like a film set, had this to say:

"I’ve photographed the royals for over 12 years, but this photo really resonates. I’ve taken many photos I’m really proud of, but in terms of the huge interest in the subjects and the response I’ve had this is probably the most iconic photo I’ve taken." -- Samir Hussein
 
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"Subtle to track and difficult to understand" unless you're looking for evidence that can be spun to fit a particular theory.

And to accuse other posters who disagree with you of being stupid enough to have drunk the "tabloid press Kool-Aid" is just :rolleyes:
 
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^^ Tee hee. This British royal family drama/ soap opera is far from being a 'romance novel.' Since you frequent tumblr and read that genre of fan-fic, maybe you would make the better romance novelist. :drama:


... If they are enjoying it as much as they seem to be, why leave? I'd get it if they did not like public life, but they seem estactic to be doing these appearances - Harry dressed up in the full bling of the royal garb and everything...

:lol: FYI, the Sussexes will continue to do work in Britain for their patronages and charities, but more on the down low, since they won't be 'senior royals' any longer. The Sussexes still have roles as President and VP of The Queen's Commonwealth Trust, because that organization was formed in 2016, with Harry's input. Harry will no longer serve as Commonwealth Youth Ambassador though, which is a shame. I've heard that William didn't like Harry having that title and that role. Again, whether that's the case or not, Harry has been stripped of certain duties and royal assignments, and it is what it is.

Hopefully, M&H will continue to travel to Commonwealth countries as private citizens in some goodwill and charitable capacities, but we don't know how that might evolve. They certainly will not be going on anymore high profile royal tours, which will be sorely missed since they were so brilliant and memorable on the few tours they have done. But never fear, Britain and the Commonwealth still have the Cambridges and Charles & Camilla (and maybe the Wessexes) to do their thing on royal tours. Enjoy those senior royals!

BTW, it's spelled ecstatic, not estactic. We don't know exactly how M&H feel about being in the spotlight, but they are obviously good-looking, in love, and they've always conducted themselves with positive energy and down-to-earth charm every time they appear in public. What we've been seeing over the last several days is nothing new. These recent appearances perhaps resonate more because they are happier and invigorated by having their freedom. And also, we won't be seeing a lot of them like this in public at royal events again.

I think M&H enjoy attending events that have meaning and resonance. Remember that Meghan's former work was about being in front of cameras a lot. So none of this phases her. As a Leo she's definitely comfortable in the spotlight, but she also brings something of substance to the spotlight. So it's not just about enjoying being the center of attention, it's more about highlighting good causes, working hard behind-the-scenes, and also enjoying the good things in life that they have been blessed to have together. What they don't like is being unfairly and continuously maligned in the British media, and receiving death threats, and Meghan experiencing racism, and their son being depicted as a chimpanzee by a British radio host.


"Subtle to track and difficult to understand" unless you're looking for evidence that can be spun to fit a particular theory.

And to accuse other posters of being stupid enough to have drunk the "tabloid press Kool-Aid" is just :rolleyes:

Look, everyone can believe what they wish. If you read a lot of the tabloids and even the mainstream press in the U.K. and in the U.S., you are going to be bombarded with the Sussexes depicted as villains. I haven't accused the Cambridges of being villains. But there really isn't that far to look to realize that there's insecurity on the part of the Cambridges. And Harry & William have always been sibling rivals. I've linked video interviews, documentaries, articles, etc.

Plus, its quite obvious how Meghan has been maligned by the U.K. media. The palace leaks against the Sussexes began shortly after their very successful South Pacific tour. The whole Easter Sunday Times article brouhaha clearly implicated William. There was a lot going on with that, but no one wished to know about it here. So, believe what you choose about the entire British royal family -- whatever you can stomach, whatever makes you happy.

No one is perfect, and nothing regarding the royal family is as straightforward and fairy tale like as popularly portrayed or as we would prefer to see it. They are all human beings with human failings.

If it makes you feel any better, Harry at least has said, "As brothers, there's ups-and-downs... I'll always love and support William. We'll always be brothers. We're just on different paths at the moment." Meanwhile, there has continued to be palace leaks against the Sussexes passed on to the media.
 
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