Really basic GOE questions

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I'm going to put these questions in language even I can understand with the hope that the answers will also be something I can understand.

Let's say an element has a base value of 10 (an easy for me to understand number). The skater executes the element well. There are 9 judges and 2 of them give the element a +3, 4 give it a +2 and 3 give it a +1. That adds up to 17.

Is the 17 divided by 9 for a value of 1.89, which would then be added to the 10 for a total value of 11.89 for the element? Are all the judges' +3 to -3 included in the final number or are 2 of the judges' evaluations arbitrarily discarded? And does the little purple box (without which I am nothing) immediately register the base value plus judge evaluation or does the judge evaluation show up at the end when the little purple box magically adds or more often subtracts? Are the judges notified right after a jump that the jump is underrotated, or can a judge give a +3 to a jump only to find out later that the jump was declared underrotated and the judge is stuck having to justify a +3?

And how do the judges type in their evaluations? If they're judging each element immediately, do they look at the monitor to find where to put the numbers in?

A quick Google search didn't answer these questions for me, which is why I bring them to you with my thanks. I'll thank Google some other time.

 

[tony]

If the base value is 10, then let's say a +1 is worth 1.00 more points, and so on. -1 is 1.00 less points.

If there are 9 judges and 7 of the scores count, if the judges (that count) give +1 +1 +1 +1 0 0 0, the skater would get 10.57 points for the element.

The score box typically shows the element plus the scores that were immediately put in for said element. That's why we see it shifting around by a tenth or two from time to time (other judges adding their scores a second or two later).

I believe nothing is called < or << until the very end, and the judges can see at that point that the technical panel has adjusted the element and they can go back and change the GOE. The technical panel does mark that the particular element needs to be reviewed.

Judges can change any/all of their GOE and PCS scores right up to the last second.

 

[Deleted member 19433]

The scale of values here tells the base values of the element and how many points are added or subtracted depending on the GOE given:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/2017-18 SP Scale of Values.pdf
http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/ISU 2094-id-scales-of-values-2017-18.pdf

For example, a triple lutz (3Lz) has a base value of 6.0 and if it's given a +2 then 1.4 points are added. The "V" and "V1" columns are reduced base values. If a jump is underrotated (<, between 1/4 and 1/2 turn short) or has a wrong edge (e) then it will get the value in the "V" column and if both errors apply then the "V1" column is the base value (that column is only relevant for flip and lutz). If a jump is downgraded (<<, 1/2 turn or more short), then you look at the jump one rotation less (e.g. for 3Lz<< you'd look at 2Lz) for the base value and GOE scale. GOE reductions from the judges are also prescribed. Tony is correct that rotation and edge calls aren't determined until the review process. So if there are a lot of potential issues with those, then the technical score will tend to drop significantly from what the box showed at the end of the program.

Once the mark for each judge is determined, the high and low are dropped and the rest are averaged. Judges generally do put their GOEs in in real time so they will briefly need to look down to make sure they put in the correct one. They can change a mark at any time. I think the box on the screen waits until a certain number of judges have put in their GOEs before displaying a score, but I'm not sure what that number is.

Lots more information is here on the U.S. Figure Skating site, which I find much easier to navigate and find things on than the ISU site:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/story?id=84109