clairecloutier
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see them do 2026.
Why not 2025? That hadn’t been assigned yet, right?
Wouldn’t be surprised to see them do 2026.
2024 is in Canada. Would they want to do two in North America back to back? They don't normally.Why not 2025? That hadn’t been assigned yet, right?
2024 is in Canada. Would they want to do two in North America back to back? They don't normally.
Following the indication of the Croatian Skating Federation that it was no longer able to host the Junior Grand Prix Event (including Pair Skating) on September 28 - October 1, 2022 in Zagreb, and having reopened applications for this Event, the Council decided the Junior Grand Prix event (including Pair Skating) on September 28 - October 1, 2022 will be held in Grenoble, France.
Ughhhh I really wanted to go to Norwood this year. Lake Placid is such a PITA to get to.The ISU announced the Challenger Series events for 2022-23 season:
September 12-16, 2022 Lake Placid, USA (including Pair Skating)
September 16-19, 2022 Bergamo, ITA
September 21-242022 Oberstdorf, GER (including Pair Skating)
September 29-October 1, 2022 Bratislava, SVK
October 5-9, 2022 Espoo, FIN (including Pair Skating)
October 13-16, 2022 Budapest, HUN
October 26-29, 2022 Nur-Sultan, KAZ
November 9-13, 2022 Graz, AUT
November 17-20, 2022 Warsaw, POL (including Pair Skating)
December 7-10, 2022 Zagreb, CRO (including Pair Skating)
It's perhaps a bit of a surprise to see that U.S. International Classic (if it's called that again) will be in Lake Placid, rather than Norwood.
Also, the JGP that was scheduled for Croatia is moving to Grenoble, France.
Why hold an event in an accessible location?Ughhhh I really wanted to go to Norwood this year. Lake Placid is such a PITA to get to.
Yeah, I'm thinking it's an error and that it's the weekend before, so there isn't an overlap with the Lombardia Trophy Challenger the following weekend.The dates as listed (Sept 12-16) indicate that the comp is Monday through Friday. That seems odd. I wonder if that is an error. I can't take off an entire week of work so if those dates are correct, I'm out.
Oooo…I’m thrilled that it’s in Lake Placid - such a beautiful and historical spot in skating history!Ughhhh I really wanted to go to Norwood this year. Lake Placid is such a PITA to get to.
I truly feel the ISU need to stop doing this - so many of the European events are in cities that are so difficult to get to unless you're coming from a major city. (For example, even Montpellier worlds - direct flights for me were only available from London which is hundreds of miles away which meant so much more money and time off work (hence why it wasn't possible for me this time around).Why hold an event in an accessible location?![]()
I didn't get the impression that the skaters were too put out with having to travel through Paris or London or other major airports so that they could compete in the south of France for Worlds. They certainly loved the resort they were at and enjoyed the beach, pool, flamingos, and warm weather.I truly feel the ISU need to stop doing this - so many of the European events are in cities that are so difficult to get to unless you're coming from a major city. (For example, even Montpellier worlds - direct flights for me were only available from London which is hundreds of miles away which meant so much more money and time off work (hence why it wasn't possible for me this time around).
I do genuinely believe that it is a major question for the ISU going forward - people are becoming much more environmentally concious travellers AND there is a huge cost of living crisis. If they want people in seats, and to grow the sport's watchership, they need to be in cities that are more easy to access for more people.
For example, I'd be far more inclined to go to an event in say, Paris, than Montpellier or Grenoble because not only are there many flights available, but it is feasble to get there by train in one day.
I truly feel the ISU need to stop doing this - so many of the European events are in cities that are so difficult to get to unless you're coming from a major city. (For example, even Montpellier worlds - direct flights for me were only available from London which is hundreds of miles away which meant so much more money and time off work (hence why it wasn't possible for me this time around).
I do genuinely believe that it is a major question for the ISU going forward - people are becoming much more environmentally concious travellers AND there is a huge cost of living crisis. If they want people in seats, and to grow the sport's watchership, they need to be in cities that are more easy to access for more people.
For example, I'd be far more inclined to go to an event in say, Paris, than Montpellier or Grenoble because not only are there many flights available, but it is feasble to get there by train in one day.
For a major event like Worlds I don’t think this is that big an issue. But having things like the Internationaux de France sequestered up in Grenoble rather than in Paris is a big blow to visibility.I truly feel the ISU need to stop doing this - so many of the European events are in cities that are so difficult to get to unless you're coming from a major city. (For example, even Montpellier worlds - direct flights for me were only available from London which is hundreds of miles away which meant so much more money and time off work (hence why it wasn't possible for me this time around).
I do genuinely believe that it is a major question for the ISU going forward - people are becoming much more environmentally concious travellers AND there is a huge cost of living crisis. If they want people in seats, and to grow the sport's watchership, they need to be in cities that are more easy to access for more people.
For example, I'd be far more inclined to go to an event in say, Paris, than Montpellier or Grenoble because not only are there many flights available, but it is feasble to get there by train in one day.
Some very good points here. The only thing I would say is that hotel rooms do tend to be significantly more expensive in big cities. OTOH, big cities are more likely to have good public transportation options.
That's the reason US Nationals and Skate America are often in 2nd tier cities - the venue costs (as well as sizes).Venue/facility rentals are also likely to cost more in big cities, especially the venues that are downtown.
I believe that the reason the event was moved away from Lake Placid had to do with the work that was being done on the arena over several years, this would appear to be just "moving it back".I remember hearing that the Lake Placid ice arena was refurbished/renovated over the past year? That might be part of the reason that USFS chose it?
The U.S. Classic has never been held in LP. It was in Salt Lake City for almost 10 years and then at SCOB last year. You may be thinking of the annual summer ice dance comp that has always been in LP, except for the past 2 years, due to Covid cancellation and then reno.I believe that the reason the event was moved away from Lake Placid had to do with the work that was being done on the arena over several years, this would appear to be just "moving it back".
The event you're referring to is the Lake Placid Ice Dance International, which isn't the same event as the US Classic International. LPIDI is usually held in early August - last season it was held in conjunction with the 1st Annual Cranberry Cup at SCOB due to the ongoing renovations at the rink in Lake Placid. Last season, the US Classic International, which was not a Challenger Series event last season, was also held at SCOB, but was held it's usual weekend in mid-September. US Classic has been held at several different locations over the years, most notably in SLC, which prompted a lot of complaints about the effect of the altitude on the skaters.I believe that the reason the event was moved away from Lake Placid had to do with the work that was being done on the arena over several years, this would appear to be just "moving it back".
I guess it's just me that finds the sport quite prohibitive to the fans then - …
I mean, what I was clearly making about a point about was the accessibility of attending live events?Au contraire. With live streaming, the sport has never been so accessible to fans!
Err, no. Saitama is in a neighbouring prefecture to Tokyo. I commuted from central Tokyo to the venue (about 30-40 minutes by commuter train).Even with Worlds in Japan, wasn't it in a city quite far away from Tokyo?
On the contrary, the Internationaux de France gets lost in a city like Paris with so many other entertainment options. The last few IdF's in Grenoble were held in a much smaller arena, but the atmosphere was a lot better and people in Grenoble actually knew the IdF was happening.For a major event like Worlds I don’t think this is that big an issue. But having things like the Internationaux de France sequestered up in Grenoble rather than in Paris is a big blow to visibility.