Polina Edmunds has withdrawn from 2016 Worlds, replaced by Mirai Nagasu

bardtoob said:
I suppose I could have been Amer-o-centric and discounted Pogo and the reigning World Champion :psoty:

... It's bad enough I did not mention the powerhouse that is Hongo because I am so Western :gallopin1
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Did i miss the official ceremony where the honorary fork was stuck in Mao? I know she's had a rough season thus far, but didn't she rebound from a dreadful Olys to win worlds just 2 years ago? Or did I miss the article about her withdrawal with injury too?
 
Oy, Polina darling. The FS scoring only put Gracie 3 points ahead on PCS. So who is "judging only on the FS?" Gracie won this on TES because she landed one more clean triple and had GOE's in the 1-2 range while Polina was in the 0-1 range. Or is she trying to say that Gracie's PCS was too high in the SP? Polina really was great in the SP but the FS was another blah program IMO. Anyway, I wonder if she is just parroting what the team around her is saying...that said, sorry for her injury, that is a huge bummer for her.

So thrilled for Mirai though, and crazy to think that we were 0.35 points away from seeing Tyler Pierce at senior Worlds! Assuming she'd have been named if the results were reversed?
 
A little bit of good Karma for Mirai. In 2014 she was 3rd and bypassed, now she is 4th and gets to go. Doesn't equal missing the Olympics, but still really nice for her.

Wishing Polina a quick and complete recovery. I admire how she has handled the situation.
 
I wonder if Polina's feet have grown/changed shape and if Harlick's are no longer a good shape boot for her. Boot issues have got to be so frustrating for skaters, families and coaches, and they also seem to cause injuries.

I hope she recovers soon and is able to find a boot configuration that works. (I will not be sorry to see the last of that skating dress, however.)
 
Wow. No curly locks GWTW in Boston? Seriously, too bad for Polina.

After a recent not-so-good report from TSL of Ashley's practices, I was thinking that maybe Ashley would be the one to withdraw; not Polina.

Congrats to Mirai going to her 2nd Sr Worlds (she was 7th in 2010). Wishing all Team USA ladies a great Worlds.
 
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FunnyBut said:
A little bit of good Karma for Mirai. In 2014 she was 3rd and bypassed, now she is 4th and gets to go. Doesn't equal missing the Olympics, but still really nice for her.

Wishing Polina a quick and complete recovery. I admire how she has handled the situation.
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So another skater getting injured is "good karma" now because...Mirai wasn't good enough to make the team? :rolleyes: Then or now?
 
A lot of Mirai in this thread, although I echo the sentiments about being pleased that she is the alternate. Isn't this a Polina withdraws thread?

If she has had the same boots for two seasons while growing - it could stress and hurt her feet, and I am shocked at the lack of new equipment. Is this an issue with money??? Skates and blades cost.

I don't think this will change the US chances for three spots or the placements of the ladies at Worlds. I believe Mirai and Polina are somewhat comparable in totals, both with very good SP scores?
 
Erin said:
I was wondering how long it was going to be before someone noticed that quote. I was very close to commenting on it myself last night and then decided not to open that can of worms.

I feel like someone needs to sit down Polina and show her exactly why Gracie beat her by 10 points in the free skate. It's not that the SP doesn't matter, it's that it can only do so much when someone (deservedly) creams you in the free skate.

Perhaps Polina thinks it should just be an SP contest? I mean, why bother holding the free program if you think you should just be able to coast on the lead of your SP and not have the FP matter :saint:
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That's what I was wondering. Apparently Polina thinks only the short counts? Or maybe she thinks that since I lead after the short I automatically win? Bizarre comments. I was there and I don't think she was robbed

(If she keeps the long next year, NEW DRESS Polina!)
 
misskarne said:
So another skater getting injured is "good karma" now because...Mirai wasn't good enough to make the team? :rolleyes: Then or now?
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Mirai was good enough in 2014, and that must have been a crushing disappointment. And she wasn't that far off this year. She handled herself very well in 2014, and this year, when the opportunity arose to compete at 4CC, she did herself proud. Since Edmunds is injured and there's nothing to change that, I'm glad that it's Mirai who's in a position to take her place, and I hope she'll have a good showing at Worlds. She's a likable skater and seems to be in a good place in her career now. I'd love to see her live up to the promise she showed as a younger skater.

As for Polina, I hope she can sort out her boot issues and some of the technique issues that seem to be holding her back.
 
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Polina probably thinks that her LP performance was close enough to Gracie's (not necessarily close) that Gracie bombing the short should have made a bigger difference than it ended up doing. I think construing her comment to mean only the short should count is actively misconstruing what she said. She's not the most aware skater as evidenced in the past and it's probably hard for her to take that an on Gracie is that much better to even beat a 8+ deficit or even 10 point deficit. It's like when Mirai choked up in her TSL interview when she said the biggest mistake from the 2014 controversy was taking away the idea that she simply was not good enough of a skater to be on that team. It's a hard thing to admit, and I personally give her leeway. Most people would not admit something like that for something they think they are really and seriously good at.
 
Carolla5501 said:
That's what I was wondering. Apparently Polina thinks only the short counts? Or maybe she thinks that since I lead after the short I automatically win? Bizarre comments. I was there and I don't think she was robbed

(If she keeps the long next year, NEW DRESS Polina!)
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I was there too and I don't think she was either. If anything, she got the benefit of the doubt on some underrotation and edge calls.

And don't even suggest the possibility of keeping the long for next year.

VIETgrlTerifa said:
Polina probably thinks that her LP performance was close enough to Gracie's (not necessarily close) that Gracie bombing the short should have made a bigger difference than it ended up doing. I think construing her comment to mean only the short should count is actively misconstruing what she said.
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Yeah, I knew that's what she meant. I thought it was clear that I was deliberately misconstruing what she said and being a smartass (hence the :saint:). I was more pointing out that there is an equally stupid counter-argument to her claim.
 
Erin said:
I feel like someone needs to sit down Polina and show her exactly why Gracie beat her by 10 points in the free skate. It's not that the SP doesn't matter, it's that it can only do so much when someone (deservedly) creams you in the free skate.
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As much as I hate the overtrained, canned, inoffensive comments that skaters make after going through media training, I think Polina might need a refresher course in what to say to reporters. Or at least in how to express her opinion without sounding poorly-informed as well.
 
berthesghost said:
Did i miss the official ceremony where the honorary fork was stuck in Mao? I know she's had a rough season thus far, but didn't she rebound from a dreadful Olys to win worlds just 2 years ago? Or did I miss the article about her withdrawal with injury too?
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Given that post was supposed to be a tongue and cheek commentary on how one can not make everyone happy, you only emphasized my point ... :rofl: as if I think Hongo is a powerhouse; the way she uses her arms makes my eyes bleed.
 
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overedge said:
As much as I hate the overtrained, canned, inoffensive comments that skaters make after going through media training, I think Polina might need a refresher course in what to say to reporters. Or at least in how to express her opinion without sounding poorly-informed as well.
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We love the "let it all hang out" realness of Russian figure skating interviews; I'm not going to jump on Polina for her failure to follow the media-trained nice-nice. Losing undoubtedly stung, and if this had been at Worlds Gracie would have been buried after that short.
 
barbk said:
We love the "let it all hang out" realness of Russian figure skating interviews; I'm not going to jump on Polina for her failure to follow the media-trained nice-nice. Losing undoubtedly stung, and if this had been at Worlds Gracie would have been buried after that short.
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I don't like the nice-nice either, but I don't think there would be anything wrong with helping Polina to express herself more diplomatically and factually.
 
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