NYC Ballet Fans, part 2

My understanding of auditioning for most companies in the US is that a dancer asks to take Company class. Sometimes they send video packages, depending on the company. There aren't many cattle call auditions anymore, since they're expensive to run, even from the home company.

As somebody who did 12 cattle call auditions this past winter, in addition to five company classes (including three companies where I had the option of doing a cattle call), I can say that cattle calls are still prevalent in the U.S. While NYCB never holds cattle calls and ABT hasn't recently, some renowned U.S. companies were holding cattle calls this year, including Houston Ballet, Boston Ballet, and Pennsylvania Ballet. Many American companies are required by AGMA to hold open auditions; I don't know how NYCB gets out of holding one, but of course they have a long-standing tradition of hiring from their school.

In Europe, however, cattle calls where anybody can show up are rare. Instead, many companies hold private auditions which are by invitation only (not the same as a company class), and I did partake in one invitation audition at the Norwegian National Ballet in January.

If the companies view holding cattle calls as cost-prohibitive, many of them don't show it because some U.S. companies hold up to five cattle call auditions a year, all around the country. A dancer will usually pay a $25 fee to attend the audition, which if 150+ people attend (quite a common occurrence at the New York auditions), the company can bring in $3750 or more from one audition. Obviously with transportation and hotel costs the company doesn't come out making a fortune from these auditions, but it's not as if they're unable to hold them either. And most of the time the companies will charge even if they are holding an audition at their home base (the only exceptions, in terms of the auditions I attended, were Pennsylvania Ballet and Norwegian Ballet). Cuts are also very common at these auditions, and dancers are rarely refunded (this year, Ballet West was the only company which refunded dancers who were cut).

Company classes auditions are allowed at most companies (though not all), but in most cases the dancer must be invited and invitation to take company class is highly selective. I'm certain things are very different for established professionals in the field taking company class, but as for starting or aspiring professionals, I had an instance where I took company class and the director wasn't even there; I took another company class where the director was in the building but never even set foot in the studio. So company classes can be a gamble in terms of getting seen, also. Auditioning is a brutal system and there is no perfect way to do it.
 
@LKR I don't doubt your experience with open auditions, but I'm familiar with a number of AGMA contracts, and unless there's a general document with open audition requirements that goes unreferenced in the contracts and is nowhere I can find on the AGMA site, the only references to auditions in any of the ballet company contracts linked on the site are "audition notices," which are listed in some contracts as examples of the type of notices that would go on the required AGMA bulletin board, rules about company member auditions for choreographers, and another reference I can't remember, but had nothing to do with outside auditions. That could very well explain why NYCB and ABT don't have auditions, and why the PNB auditions page gives a link to the school.

Thinking about it, it makes sense that dancers who are in companies, especially the bigger ones, might not want to attend an open audition, although some might.
 
I was on the Bavarian State Opera site to check for the live stream schedule (not up yet for next season) and clicked on their audition (for the second company) link, and the minimum height requirements for women are 165cm/5'5" and for men are 180cm/5'11". Yegads. Many of the best dancers I've ever seen wouldn't have been accepted to audition.

Also forcing companies to hold open auditions could lead to a situation like in general employment: a lot of people spend time and money to get to them, but they are theater to make their preferred hires look like they've been chosen legitimately.
 
^ That's so weird. Even Balanchine/NYCB, famous for long leggy dancers, had little stars too -- McBride, Verdy, Tomasson, etc. I don't think Villella was 5'11" either. I'm glad they didn't have that rule!
 
I was on the Bavarian State Opera site to check for the live stream schedule (not up yet for next season) and clicked on their audition (for the second company) link, and the minimum height requirements for women are 165cm/5'5" and for men are 180cm/5'11". Yegads. Many of the best dancers I've ever seen wouldn't have been accepted to audition.

Also forcing companies to hold open auditions could lead to a situation like in general employment: a lot of people spend time and money to get to them, but they are theater to make their preferred hires look like they've been chosen legitimately.

Funny, I actually did meet the Bavarian State Ballet height requirements (for men) but didn't get an audition. Not that I claim to dance at that level, but given the height requirements there was at least a possibility. I believe it was also Ballet Zurich that had a height requirement of 5'11", and I was actually told I was too tall (I'm 6'4''). But I prefer companies that are specific if they have stringent requirements for height and body type, as well as experience level, so that I won't waste my time auditioning for a company where I have no chance.
 
We need you out in Seattle: we have ballerinas who are 5'9" and 5'11" and a few at 5'8". Two of the tall guys are getting major roles by partnering these women, and we just lost a tall corps member.
 
I was on the Bavarian State Opera site to check for the live stream schedule (not up yet for next season) and clicked on their audition (for the second company) link, and the minimum height requirements for women are 165cm/5'5" and for men are 180cm/5'11". Yegads. Many of the best dancers I've ever seen wouldn't have been accepted to audition.

Also forcing companies to hold open auditions could lead to a situation like in general employment: a lot of people spend time and money to get to them, but they are theater to make their preferred hires look like they've been chosen legitimately.

Back in my ballet days when I was measured as part of the audition process for the Royal Ballet School (london) they had even strict criteria for growing kids (I was 11) - and I was right on the borderline (I ended up being 5'4") ..
 
Edward Villella is very small - tops 5'7" (if even that) and I give him a couple of inches as I'm sure he's shrunk a little since his prime. Joaquin deLuz is also very short (but handsome, very macho & totally charming) tops 5'6". If they can dance, I think a lot of companies will make room.
 
Edward Villella is very small - tops 5'7" (if even that) and I give him a couple of inches as I'm sure he's shrunk a little since his prime. Joaquin deLuz is also very short (but handsome, very macho & totally charming) tops 5'6". If they can dance, I think a lot of companies will make room.
That rule would have excluded Baryshnikov too! Makarova. Gelsey Kirkland. It's idiotic.
 
I got to see ABT's "Othello" on Weds. night. Lar Lubovitch choreo. James Whiteside, who I never guite "got", was wonderful as Iago. Finally could see personality and acting as well as fabulous technique. He usually is in the princely roles, which are sometimes boring as all heck, but he was fabulous here. Marcelo Gomes was also quite wonderful in the title role. In brown tights, holeymoley, one handsome guy! I hadn't seen this version & it's homoerotic in Iago's unrequited love for Othello. Different take, for sure. Julie Kent was Desdemona. This was her last time being partnered by Marcelo and he was obviously very choked up during curtain calls. She is not the dancer she once was but she did look lovely and acted well. Stella Abrera (beautiful), Joseph Gorak and Misty Copeland rounded out the cast.

Goldenthal's music is difficult to listen to for 2 hrs. but does lend itself to the choreo. Alistair Macaulay gave it a pretty sh***ty review in the NY Times mostly on the version, not the dancing. I never can quite figure what reviewers are looking for. I know it's not a new production but it's nice seeing ABT dance other things than Swan Lakes ad nauseum.
 
I was on the Bavarian State Opera site to check for the live stream schedule (not up yet for next season) and clicked on their audition (for the second company) link, and the minimum height requirements for women are 165cm/5'5" and for men are 180cm/5'11". Yegads. Many of the best dancers I've ever seen wouldn't have been accepted to audition.

I know very little about ballet, but that seems like a ridiculous requirement. What--you can't be talented if you're short? WTH. (Of course, at a bit under 5'2", I'm biased against "tallism". :-))

I just saw on Twitter this interview with Benjamin Millepied, who is now running the Paris Opera Ballet: http://dancemagazine.com/issues/May-2015/Director-of-danse.
 
I know very little about ballet, but that seems like a ridiculous requirement. What--you can't be talented if you're short? WTH. (Of course, at a bit under 5'2", I'm biased against "tallism". :))
You can be talented if you're short: you just can't audition to be in this company's training company if you're short. You could also be short if the Artistic Director wanted you and offered you a contract.
 
So upset. I usually don't have Friday night plans. Got very cheap seats to go to Carnegie Hall tonight to see American Symphony Orchestra. So I got an email this morning from one of my ABT contacts to go w/her to the ABT NYC opening night of the new "Sleeping Beauty" tonight with Gillian Murphy in the title role, Marcelo Gomes as the Prince, Stella Abrera as the Lilac Fairy and Daniil Simkin dancing Bluebird (a showy role which should be great for him) Dream cast, orchestra seats. (free, to boot) I can't go. I refuse to stand another friend up, esp. since I am the one who suggested the Carnegie Concert. Arrrrgh!!!!! Why is it when it rains it pours!

Thank you for listening - I just needed to whine!:wuzrobbed
 
I went to ABT's "selfie session" at the Performing Arts Library last night. I've really gone off ABT this season, but I thought it might be fun, depending on which dancers were participating.
My heart sank when I looked at the program and discovered my least 3 favorites were taking part: James Whiteside, Daniil Simkin, and Isabella Boylston. But hey, the photos they were showing looked interesting, and it was a chance to get a look at what goes on behind the scenes; backstage shots and rehearsals and so on.
Alas: I only lasted half an hour before I fled the place; I just couldn't listen to these 3, who are in dire need of some PR training. Isabella didn't talk much, she seems nice enough, but rather an air-head. Most of what she said went like this: "Well, this is a shot of my dressing room, you know, I like to attract positive energy, you know, so I keep these pictures of my husband there, you know?"
Daniil had some great shots, but every time he opened his mouth, he came across as a pretentious, condescending twit, ie, "You know, dancers have a much higher pain tolerance than the average person, but, you know, I love to talk with regular peple, you know, it gives me perspective in my life"
James was completely full of himself, mugging and smirking. I lost track of how many times he used the word "Like" in his conversation. "Like, this is a shot of, like, my locker at ABT, like, I'm a little OCD, so, like, my dance belts are there, and, like, my tights are, like, over there.
They should have just showed the photos without letting them speak, it was way too irritating.

BTW, there is a rather nice exhibit of historical photos of ABT at the library, mainly featuring Lucia Chase, but some really nice shots.
 
Marge, they probably do need some PR. I've met James & he is really nice & sweet, not at all pretentious (at least not with me). I imagine he was very uncomfortable speaking. I don't know the other 2 at all. I can tell you Daniil hates doctors & does mostly holistic "healing" so he probably does have high pain tolerance! BTW, concert was a mixed bag & I had a horribly uncomfortable box seat where they added at least 3 extra seats to cram them in. I should have gone to the ballet.
 
I'm not disputing that they are nice people; most likely they are. I found them painful to listen to and James and Daniil in particular seemed completely lacking in class.

Roberto Bolle fans, listen up! He will be flogging his new book (which seems to have some very porny photos) at the B&N on 86th and Lexington, on Monday June 15. Info here:

http://store-locator.barnesandnoble.com/event/87621
 
I'm planning to get a ticket for the La Fille; I missed it when they originally showed it last year, and it's high on my list. There seem to be discount ticket offers around. I've had at least one offering show up in my e-mails.
 
M_S,

I'd love to borrow the DVD, but it will have to be another time. I have conflicts both nights you are going to AA.

I did get a discount ticket to the movie showing. Goldstar has an offer.
 
I saw it in Costa Mesa and it was pretty bad. The designs were after the Bakst 1921 Diaghilev version - but crafted with cheap materials - and the steps were performed in an antiquated 19th century manner, yet with vestiges of 20th century moves, as you mention. So we saw dancers trained in the 21st-C dancing a 20th-C version but performing in 19th-C style, such as pique turns in demi pointe and bent working legs in arabesques, for example. Big mess. I hope that a lot of this is fixed before the ballet goes to the Met, then La Scala.

I saw the production at The Met last night and I disagree that it's a mess or with cheap materials. Granted, this is here in NYC and the production was pretty tight by this point. Gillian Murphy and James Whiteside in the leads. As a historic-type production, it takes awhile to get used to. No big jumping moments, but the point work & steps were unbelievable. The corps was tight. Some moments were a little "funny" to the modern eye as the poses were like that out of old movies & stills, but that's is what it is. It is a huge production. Felt like cast of hundreds, with kids from the JKO school, many who were quite good little actors. Gillian is a goddess and was spectacular. Having to constantly work in attitude must be tiring as well as being constantly en pointe. James didn't have much to do other than pose & act, which was a shame.

The sets were exquisite & got lots of ooh & aahs with clapping when the curtain came up. Costumes were exquisitely beautiful. I was a costume designer for years so I think I have a pretty good eye. The only "cheap" one was Lilac Fairy's (the beautiful Stella Abrera) 2nd one. My biggest complaint is that they used too bright a lilac metallic which read "cheap." She didn't dance in that one (acting) and the long 18th century skirt should have been fuller. Some of the costumes were of the most beautiful brocades and irridescent, esp. the King & Queen's. My biggest complaint of the night was the rude audience - there were lots of teenagers & older children in attendance, but it was the adults. They talked loudly through the overture & interludes like it was background music. People acted like they were in their living rooms watching TV.
 
Jubak,

Thanks for the review. I've been toying with going tomorrow night. You may have just decided for me.
 
One more costume note - at the end, during the mazurka, the men & women were dressed in some odd outfits. Both sexes were wearing essentially the same bell skirts that stood out all around (wired, I assume) with the men in military jackets & plumed metallic hats. The men looked so weird. I would have had them in pants, be damned with "historic accuracy" Then the women were wearing white hats that looked like graduation mortarboards, with white fringe all around the edge. These outfits didn't work. I'm pretty sure the "skirts" were made of silk shantung but either they needed to skip the wire portion or make them flat as they also just looked kind of wrinkled.

Emason, I don't know if you plan to go or not. It is interesting for the concept. I see Sarah Lane is doing Aurora tomorrow. She did Princess Florine who danced with Bruce Zhang, who did a great job of dancing Bluebird. He's a new corps member as of last year. Probably the most flashy of all the parts.
 
I did go tonight. Some quick notes; I'll post more tomorrow. Corps member was plucked from obscurity for Bluebird tonight also; he shall be nameless as Carabosse Mason says back to the corps for him. No line, no extension; every time his back leg was raised there was an ugly knee bend. Leg looked like deformed tree branch. Guy also had awkward stance and piked at the waist when supporting Copeland in turns.

I sat in last row of Dress Circle. Second Lilac Fairy costume did not look cheap, but it was indisputably NYC showgirl by way of Florenz Ziegfeld.
 
I did go tonight. Some quick notes; I'll post more tomorrow. Corps member was plucked from obscurity for Bluebird tonight also; he shall be nameless as Carabosse Mason says back to the corps for him. No line, no extension; every time his back leg was raised there was an ugly knee bend. Leg looked like deformed tree branch. Guy also had awkward stance and piked at the waist when supporting Copeland in turns.

I sat in last row of Dress Circle. Second Lilac Fairy costume did not look cheap, but it was indisputably NYC showgirl by way of Florenz Ziegfeld.

Maybe 2nd lilac fairy was better further back & up. I was down in "good" seats in orchestra and sometimes they are not as "good" Beggars can't be choosers so I take what is graciously given to me. FYI, Kevin McKenzie & Peter Martin's always sit up in Dress Circle to observe during dress rehearsals as it's a better vantage point. Wonder who was doing "Bluebird"? Do tell........
 
I saw SB on Tue with Vishneva/Gomez, and it was so interesting. The "stylized" choreo was both consistent and convincing--I felt immersed in the gone-by days, and as per Diagilev, that's what SB is all about. Some costumes were odd, but overall, so interesting.
 

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