Minimum Total Element Scores (TES) for 2024 ISU Championships

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Excerpted from pages 4-5 of Communication No. 2570 - Decisions of the ISU Council (published on June 15, 2023):

12. ISU Figure Skating Championships 2024 – Minimum Total Element Scores
The Council determined that the Skaters/Couples participating in the ISU Championships 2024 must have reached the following Minimum Total Elements Scores during the ongoing season (2023/24) or the immediately preceding season (2022/23):

ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2024:
MEN 34.00 64.00
LADIES 32.00 53.00
PAIR SKATING 29.00 46.00
ICE DANCE 35.00 52.00 (last season: 33.00 49.00)

ISU European & ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships 2024:
MEN 28.00 46.00
LADIES 25.00 42.00
PAIR SKATING 25.00 42.00
ICE DANCE 30.00 48.00 (last season: 28.00 45.00)

ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships 2024:
JUNIOR MEN 25.00 44.00
JUNIOR LADIES 25.00 40.00
JUNIOR PAIR SKATING 23.00 34.00
JUNIOR ICE DANCE 24.00 38.00

The required Minimum Total Elements Score for the Short Program/Rhythm Dance and the Free Skating/Free Dance to participate in Senior ISU Championships (ISU European Figure Skating Championships, ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships, ISU World Figure Skating Championships) can only be obtained in Senior International Competitions. Likewise, the required Minimum Total Elements Score for the Short Program/Rhythm Dance and the Free Skating/Free Dance segment to participate in the ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships can only be obtained in International Junior Competitions.

The Minimum Technical Elements Score (not including Component Scores) is a Technical Score and must have been reached in an ISU recognized International Competition (as per Article 39, paragraph 7 of the ISU Constitution and Rule 107, paragraphs 1 to 10 of the ISU General Regulations) during the ongoing or preceding season in both segments, Short Program/Rhythm Dance and Free Skating/Free Dance (see ISU Special Regulations Single & Pair Skating Ice Dance, Rule 378, paragraph 3).

While the Minimum Technical Elements Score must be reached separately in each segment (not a total of the two segments), the Minimum Technical Elements Score for each segment may be reached at different competitions. The Minimum Technical Elements Score must be reached 21 (twenty-one) days before the first day (first official practice day) of the Championships concerned (same as entry deadline).

If it would become evident that the number of entries based on the Minimum Technical Elements Scores listed above would be significantly higher or lower than expected, the ISU Council reserves the right to adjust the Minimum Technical Elements Scores in order to achieve the above-mentioned objective.

ISU Members will be informed latest 45 days prior to the entry deadline of the respective Championships if the announced required minimum Technical Score will be adjusted or will remain as announced. In case of the continental Championships the announcement for both European and Four Continents Championships will be made 45 days prior to the entry deadline of the earlier Championships, in this case the European Championships.

ETA:

Technical Score for the current & previous season (from ISU's Statistics page):

 
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Karen-W

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So I guess they decided there were too many dance teams in Saitama?
Makes sense, based on the idea that the ISU doesn't want more than 6 groups per discipline for the SP/RD.
 

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Is the base base for the total required elements higher than last year? They used to consider adjustments based on the difficulty of the pattern.
 

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Right, and the pattern is gone. Was there a big change in base value last year? Because the powers that be might have wanted a year's grace period to see how the adjustment in scores would go after the pattern was removed.

I mean some of those teams that made it to Worlds last year were brand new and/or had athletes that had no previous history in elite dance. Not that the teams made it to Worlds because of low minimums. They made it to Worlds because they attended B events at the end of the season in which the scoring was ridiculously high enough to help those teams make it to Worlds--which seems to happen every year regardless of the minimum scores.
 

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Communication No. 2577 - Entries for ISU Figure Skating and Synchronized Skating Championships 2024 (11 July 2023): https://www.isu.org/figure-skating/...-synchronized-skating-championships-2024/file
(Minimum Total Elements Scores are listed in this document as well.)

ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2024
Men
3: JPN KOR USA
2: CAN FRA ITA SUI

Women
3: JPN KOR
2: BEL EST GER SUI USA

Pairs
3: CAN JPN USA
2: AUS GER HUN ITA

Ice Dance
3: CAN USA
2: CZE FIN FRA GBR ITA LTU

ISU European Figure Skating Championships 2024
Men
3: FRA ITA
2: EST GEO LAT SWE SUI

Women
3: BEL GEO
2: EST FIN GER ITA POL ROU SUI

Pairs
3: GER ITA
2: FRA GBR HUN NED UKR

Ice Dance
3: FRA GBR ITA
2: CZE FIN GEO GER HUN LTU UKR

ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships 2024
Men
3: JPN
2: CAN CHN EST ITA KOR SWE SUI USA

Women
3: JPN KOR
2: CAN CHN EST GEO SUI USA

Pairs
3: AUS USA
2: CAN CHN CZE FRA GER JPN UKR

Ice Dance
3: CAN CZE USA
2: CYP FRA GBR KOR

The following ISU Members, as non-European Federations may participate in the ISU Four Continents Championships ("... will have open entries with each ISU Member entitled to enter up to a maximum of three (3) entries for each event."):
Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Canada
Chile
China
Ecuador
Egypt
Hong Kong/China
India
Indonesia
Japan
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyz Republic
Republic of Korea
Kuwait
Malaysia
Mexico
Mongolia
Morocco
New Zealand
Peru
Philippines
D.P.R. Korea
South Africa
Singapore
Thailand
Turkmenistan
Chinese Taipei
United Arab Emirates
United States of America
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
 

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Cross-posting this useful post by @Andrea82 in this thread:
The events in which minimum TES can be achieved are those listed in the following document:
Requirements needed are:
a) at least two competitors from two different ISU federations must be entered.
b) the technical panel members should come from three different ISU federations and they must have ISU or International qualification (in exceptional cases, one "national" technical specialist is accepted).
c) the panel of judges should have at least 5 judges. No ISU federation should have a majority on the panel. Judges must have ISU or International qualification (in exceptional cases, one "national" judge is accepted).
 

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ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2024:
MEN 34.00 64.00
LADIES 32.00 53.00
This is kind of ridiculous to me. Either increase the men's SP requirements proportional to the LP gap, or reduce the women's SP requirements... There's such a strange disparity compared to this:

ISU European & ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships 2024:
MEN 28.00 46.00
LADIES 25.00 42.00

Is it maybe because there would be too many women qualifying for worlds otherwise?
 

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This is kind of ridiculous to me. Either increase the men's SP requirements proportional to the LP gap, or reduce the women's SP requirements... There's such a strange disparity compared to this:



Is it maybe because there would be too many women qualifying for worlds otherwise?
You know, there was a lively discussion last year about the TES mins and it is amusing to me that people always seem to focus in on the women without realizing that the TES mins for ALL disciplines are aimed at hitting the sweet spot of no more than 6 warm-up groups for the SP. The only discipline that exceeded that was ice dance, where there were 7 warm-up groups for the RD in Saitama. As a result and, quite predictably, the ISU increased the TES mins for that discipline.

There is nothing about the TES mins which strikes me as an attack on one discipline more than any other.
 

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You know, there was a lively discussion last year about the TES mins and it is amusing to me that people always seem to focus in on the women without realizing that the TES mins for ALL disciplines are aimed at hitting the sweet spot of no more than 6 warm-up groups for the SP.
If this is the reason, then I get it.
 

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Latvia will be able to field a second man at Euros. Fedir Kulish achieved the TES minimums at Jelgava Cup this weekend.
At the same competition, Meda Variakojyte (Lithuania) achieved the FS minimum for Worlds (she already had the SP one from last season).
 

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I‘m not sure if here is the right thread to ask… Have they decided the number of skaters/teams that can make to FP/FD in JWC and WC this season?Will it be less than last season?
 

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They set the minimums, and every country that has a skater or team that has met them can send as many as they have earned spots (1-3).

Except, according to the communication (linked above) that they reserve the right to change the TES minimums up to 45 days before then entry deadline before championships in order to control the number of entrants:

If it would become evident that the number of entries based on the Minimum Technical Elements Scores listed above would be significantly higher or lower than expected, the ISU Council reserves the right to adjust the Minimum Technical Elements Scores in order to achieve the above-mentioned objective.

ISU Members will be informed latest 45 days prior to the entry deadline of the respective Championships if the announced required minimum Technical Score will be adjusted or will remain as announced. In case of the continental Championships the announcement for both European and Four Continents Championships will be made 45 days prior to the entry deadline of the earlier Championships, in this case the European Championships.

They don't publish what's "expected" in these docs. Maybe they do in the bid documents.
 

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They set the minimums, and every country that has a skater or team that has met them can send as many as they have earned spots (1-3).

Except, according to the communication (linked above) that they reserve the right to change the TES minimums up to 45 days before then entry deadline before championships in order to control the number of entrants:



They don't publish what's "expected" in these docs. Maybe they do in the bid documents.

I think you’re answering about qualifying for the event. I think @coralline asked about making the free skate, but making it to worlds.
 

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I misread the post -- thanks for pointing that out.

The number of skaters/teams who make the FS and FD is covered by the bi-yearly Special Regs doc, since any skater who's in the short has the minimums by definition.

The only relatively recent changes were increasing the number of Pairs teams that qualify to 20 from 16, sometime in the teens. Here are the current regs:

From section 520 of the Special Regs:

B. ISU Championships – Special Technical Rules
Based on the result of the Short Program/Rhythm Dance, the Competitors placed 1-24 in Single Skating 1-16 in Pair Skating (1-20in Pair Skating at World Championships) and 1-20 in Ice Dance onlys hall qualify for the final Free Skating/Free Dance.

So 24 for singles for all championships
20 for Dance for all championships
16 for Pairs for Euros/4C's/JWC
20 for Paris at WC

Next year the qualification system is quite different, and the number of Pairs that qualify goes back to 16 for all championships.
 

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Keeping my fingers crossed that with Australia's Charlton Doherty's meeting the SP from last week's Volvo Open, he is considered for selection to the 2024 Four Continents Championships in February.
 
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Can someone enlighten me about Roman Sadovsky. Does he miss some sort of minumum? Isnt that what his European adventure is Or was supose to be about? Thank you”
 

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Can someone enlighten me about Roman Sadovsky. Does he miss some sort of minumum? Isnt that what his European adventure is Or was supose to be about? Thank you”
He has his minimums from last season. He was injured and missed his earlier challenger and grand prix assignments, which is why he was given these later season assignments.
 

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At EduTrophy Ana Sofia Beschea achieved the SP minimum TES for Euros. She already had the FS one from last season's EduTrophy. So Romania can fill their second spot at Euros.

At Golden Spin, Ze Zeng Fang of Malaysia got the FS minimum for Four Continents. He already had the SP one.

Edward Appleby got the FS minimum for Worlds at Golden Spin. Already had the SP one.

Azusa Tanaka/Shingo Nishiyama and Utana Yoshida/Masaya Morita (Japan) achieved the Worlds (and 4 Continents) minimums in their international debut at GS.
 
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