Lemonade20
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
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Wow, that's unbelievable! My heart breaks for her.
Well, at least Aljona Savchenko got out as quickly as she went it to it.Talk about a toxic environment. It's horrible.
She went to it in full knowledge about this.Well, at least Aljona Savchenko got out as quickly as she went it to it.
If so, shame on her.She went to it in full knowledge about this.
Really? You have the evidence to back that statement up?She went to it in full knowledge about this.
Or she saw it happening to others...I also wonder if she quit because she was getting the same abusive treatment.
She doesn't deserve to do that even, IMO.Let her teach learntoskate with the hockey players. She's garbage.
Think of it like quitting a job where you need the money in the middle of doing an expensive project (say renovating your house) without something else lined up. Or quitting your job when that's how you get your health insurance when in the middle of being treated for cancer.What I don't understand is why any skater would put up with Dalilah's disgusting abuse. Or any skaters' parents condoning it. If I as a parent am paying over $50K a year for my daughter's skating, and if a coach calls her a slut and to go fcuk the entire men's gymnastics team, well that coach would quickly get a termination letter effective immediately. Who the hell does she think she is, talking to people like that who are PAYING her to teach them? Why give her any kind of career in coaching?
So it's okay for her to abuse hockey players?Let her teach learntoskate with the hockey players. She's garbage.
Completely agree, that's how people like her get away with it. Gaslighting, playing mind games, trying every possible way to break down someone's mental health. It makes me sick that people had to place their trust in someone like her.A coach-athlete relationship is very close, much like a family or intimate partner relationship.
Many parents don't stay for every practice. And abusive coaches will treat their kids differently when the parent is present.
It's hard to see abuse from inside an abusive relationship. It's hard to leave something so familiar. They make it easy to stay by having periods of kindness.
I've been a foster parent on and off for about 5 years and every time I get a kid/kids, I have to tell them multiple times that we will only be mad if you hurt one of us or the dogs on purpose (and honestly mostly the dogs). Nothing else they can do will make me angry, and we will never yell at or hit you. It takes months or even a year for them to believe me. Because this is normal to them.
Why do people stay in abusive relationships of any kind?What I don't understand is why any skater would put up with Dalilah's disgusting abuse. Or any skaters' parents condoning it.
Oh dear. There's way too much 'I had nothing to do with it' and 'I think people know I'm a good person' in that response."Vanessa James’ first public comments about the alleged sexual abuse of a 13-year-old girl by James’ former partner Morgan Cipres in Dec. 2017" as tweeted by Christine Brennan (J/R had a pre-Skate Canada International media call today): https://twitter.com/cbrennansports/status/1451273001287176209
To collaborate or not to collaborate, that is the question, and I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that Christine Brennan asked.But, yeah, if she was so concerned about the allegations and supported the victims, why did she also continue to work with and support Cipres after the allegations came out?
You could probably give people a chance to read the thread but whatever...Lol at all the "Poor Alexa! So attacked! That question was uncalled for!" apparently not applying to Vanessa James' press conference.
Who* would have thought that her making a public statement will be worse than her staying silent. Kudos to Vanessa for a self-centered and righteous statement that doesn't sound remotely like anything resembling the truth. I don't know if she had any media training about the topic but if she did it was a failure."Vanessa James’ first public comments about the alleged sexual abuse of a 13-year-old girl by James’ former partner Morgan Cipres in Dec. 2017" as tweeted by Christine Brennan (J/R had a pre-Skate Canada International media call today): https://twitter.com/cbrennansports/status/1451273001287176209
It's more than that, she kept doing shows with Cipres after the allegations went public. If she did that because she was contractually obligated and couldn't get out of it then she's free to state that but to try and pretend she didn't know about the allegations when the timeline is visible to the public is equal to pretending everyone is stupid. The cover-up was all about allowing her and Cipres to go to the Olympics and keep skating for a full season after it all went down, in what world are we supposed to believe she didn't know anything and was not involved at all.I have a very hard time believing that at a small gossipy rink, and with the amount of time that pairs skaters spend together every day, that James didn't know anything about what was going on. Maybe she didn't know all of it, but it's not plausible IMO that she didn't know any of it.
I'm pretty sure her 'I wasn't involved' can be translated as 'I wasn't a subject of the SafeSport investigation,' and that's it.in what world are we supposed to believe she didn't know anything and was not involved at all.
Asked how it was possible she did not know what Cipres had done and of the alleged efforts to keep it quiet, James said, “I reiterate that I was not aware of these allegations or this cover up (prior to being told of it by authorities after it was reported.)
Thanks for the link to the more detailed article. And given that timeline information, her specific phrasing there does make some sense. But the way she's using it to imply significantly less culpability on her part than she merits being held to account for is...well, I first typed 'dodgy', but let's be real, it's just dishonest.However, the "prior to being told of it by authorities" part could be true because the police briefly investigated the allegations & interviewed potential witnesses in late December 2017/early January 2018. I suspect that she may have known about certain things earlier than that but that's a discussion for another day.
Personally, I still think the statement came off poorly.